Thread: Thailand - Electric Showers - Water Heaters

^ it is a multi-point heater for up to three hot water outlets. Brand is Fagor.

They have loads of these instantaneous multi-point water heaters in HomePro and similar shops, just don't confuse them with the electric showers as they look the same.

Originally Posted by Nostradamus

^ it is a multi-point heater for up to three hot water outlets. Brand is Fagor.

They have loads of these instantaneous multi-point water heaters in HomePro and similar shops, just don't confuse them with the electric showers as they look the same.

Thank you very much!

you can actually connect as many outlets as you like to those, but if you use more than one at a time you will not get very hot water

Hello to you (all the experts)
For a four bathrooms with tub, what would be a better heating system.
especially if guests decide to enjoy the bath two or three at the same time.
Thank you for your advice.

^ Depends on how many hot water outlets you are planning on. You don't need hot water in bathrooms with no shower/bathtub. You can just install a normal cold water tap in bathroom sinks.

If you have tubs in all the bathrooms as you indicate you will need a large tanked electric or gas system so you can store heated water as well as supply. It will also require a powerful electric pump so all the rooms have decent water pressure. You will also have to factor in a hot water inlet for the kitchen and anywhere else you want hot water.

You could install more than one water heater as many have a limited ability and a maximum amount of recommended outlets.

It is going to cost a lot in Thailand for this kind of installation as most Thais go for cheap fittings and cheaper electric showers even in newer houses. Proper hot water is a relatively new phenomenon here. Our bathroom renovation has run close to 70,000thb and that is just a shower, toilet and sink in a 1.5m x 4m room.

get a decent solar water heater and there will be no problem supplying all of them

Originally Posted by Nostradamus

^ Depends on how many hot water outlets you are planning on. You don't need hot water in bathrooms with no shower/bathtub. You can just install a normal cold water tap in bathroom sinks.

If you have tubs in all the bathrooms as you indicate you will need a large tanked electric or gas system so you can store heated water as well as supply. It will also require a powerful electric pump so all the rooms have decent water pressure. You will also have to factor in a hot water inlet for the kitchen and anywhere else you want hot water.

You could install more than one water heater as many have a limited ability and a maximum amount of recommended outlets.

It is going to cost a lot in Thailand for this kind of installation as most Thais go for cheap fittings and cheaper electric showers even in newer houses. Proper hot water is a relatively new phenomenon here. Our bathroom renovation has run close to 70,000thb and that is just a shower, toilet and sink in a 1.5m x 4m room.

Thank you Khun Nostradamus for your insight,
do you have an idea of market price for a good heater system?
I would need a good one with multi-outlet for this house with 4 Bed rooms,
but then another building with the kitchen...! I am quiet spoiled with european way of using hot-water to clean any grease!

Originally Posted by DrAndy

get a decent solar water heater and there will be no problem supplying all of them

Thank you DrAndy,
will a good solar system, cover and could provide adequate hot water for all I mentioned? any idea of recent pricing ? Thank you again

Can anyone tell me if electricity used in Thailand is generated with the star, or the delta system. This has vital quincequonces for safe earthing.
In my condo, it seems that all earths (such as they are) are tied down to the neutral.
We had the same system in Ireland, & I get the same problems - a voltage sits on the neutral, so my desktop computer tickles me if I touch it.
How will this effect the ELCB of my shower - there is already a voltage on the earth/neutral.
I do not use the shower, but winter approaches.

Originally Posted by siam

Thank you DrAndy, will a good solar system, cover and could provide adequate hot water for all I mentioned? any idea of recent pricing ? Thank you again

sorry, missed this

anyway, yes, a solar system can cover any demands as they come in different sizes and can be linked

mine, which is 170l of scalding water, was about B40k plus around B10k for fitting, delivery and things
quite cheap compared to some systems out there

Originally Posted by fridgemagnet

In my condo, it seems that all earths (such as they are) are tied down to the neutral.

if not very recent, there is probably no earth system

there is a safety cut-out which is meant to save your life if anything misconnects

No safety cut-out here, and with only 2 wires going to the main switch, I'm not sure what type of device would offer good protection.

Thanks for the info.
I will now search to try & see what earthing system this old condo uses.

Originally Posted by EssEffBee

In Thailand, the most predominant system is IT. Some areas may be TN C+S. I have never seen a TT system in Thailand.

Take a look again at the wiki link you provided.
An IT system has no Neutral from the transformer to the consumer!
The most common system in Thailand is the TT system.

Originally Posted by lom

Originally Posted by EssEffBee

In Thailand, the most predominant system is IT. Some areas may be TN C+S. I have never seen a TT system in Thailand.

Take a look again at the wiki link you provided.
An IT system has no Neutral from the transformer to the consumer!
The most common system in Thailand is the TT system.

The wiki link does not expose the true extent of IT connections.
Try this link, if you are technically minded;
Earthing Systems

Page 56 is enlightening.

Originally Posted by watterinja

Use the Steibel-Eltron brand - they are well-made.

.:Welcome to Stiebel Eltron :. The water heater Germans love most

Are they completely made in Germany?

Currently we are having a house built in the north part of Thailand, near CM.

I too do not love theese heating things in the bath rooms.

Searching for alternatives bring the solar panels up.

So far i do not manage to find prices near the range you mention, to be more
specific more than twice is quoated for a small household system with 4 outlets, all
at the same end of the house. 3 bath + kitchen on 2 stores.

Can you provide some information on companies to contact please?

Thank you.

Rasmus

Originally Posted by Loy Toy

^ I run a medium sized unit which from memory cost me 60 odd thousand baht fitted and we ran 3/4/5 bathrooms, the kitchen and laundry and never had a problem.

Always had boiling hot water and the savings re; electricity is noticeable.

I have also purchased wall mounted water heaters that cost up too and over 10,000 Baht each fitted in other houses.

On the larger house we have 5 bedrooms, 2 kitchens and large laundrey and have 2 Thai made solar units which cost 80k and have operated without problem for the last 6 years. One services upstairs and the other downstairs.

Really there is no comparison as far as I am concerned regarding intitial investment and later on return on investment as well we get hot water we could boil an egg in.