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    Quote Originally Posted by lom
    About being same size and shape, yes they are until the brick layer has ruined it all.. Just take a look at the picture.. They could as well have been deformed already in the factory instead of at the building site.
    Doesn't look too bad to me, although the overlap where the bricks have a longer run seems a bit too little. Are you looking at the lower section of bricks below the ground beam? Those have been laid in conventional concrete block as far as I can tell.

    A question for DD. It looks like the builder has created a concrete frame around all the doors and windows is that the case and is that usual with this type of block?
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    They look a lot like the standard American cinder block. Any difference?

    Maybe they're a little smaller.

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    Is that a basement in the pictured "super block" house?

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    http://www.superblockthailand.com/service.html

    Everything you ever wanted to know about superblocks - very informative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog
    Quicker to lay, easy to cut, ie with a woodsaw, plus they are all the same size and shape
    Tougher to make the wiring and plumbing runs though?

    Which is a better bet - Q-Con (Superblock) or double-wall construction with foam insulation between the two walls?
    Thanks!

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    DD - what's the 'standard' or typical air gap between a double-walled block outer wall construction? Foam, electric, toilet vents to pass thru.
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    I been thinking about your previous post boon mee, still not sure how to answer that, although obviously a double block wall with insulation would be better but damn expensive.

    UK the gap was 10 cms I believe, but things like toilet pipes were run down thru a false wall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee
    Which is a better bet - Q-Con (Superblock) or double-wall construction with foam insulation between the two walls?
    I'm going to specualte on this and risk making myself look a prat.

    In cold climates the intention is usually to keep heat in, and the air gap in a double wall helps this. On the basis that hot air rises and cold falls a double wall with no other insulation will be less efficient than one with foam in which is going to act like a wooly jumper.

    Now in Thailand you want to keep the heat out so I postulate that a double wall with an air gap will be more efficient at doing that than one with a foam layer - my thinking being that air heated within the gap will be free to rise and vent at the top into the roof void, if at the same time vent bricks are inserted at the bottom to allow cooler air to replace the warmer.

    Of course having air con might throw the whole theory out of the window so to speak.

    I was toying with the idea of using the thinner 4" superblocks together with a 4" concrete block to keep the cost down. I haven't costed it see if this is cheaper than a single wall of the thicker superblock.

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    Well, Dougal & DD, turns out I'm the one who's the Prat here. Seems like I should have been talking about clay brick rather than concrete block with respect to the double-wall exterior. Does that make more sense?
    Sorry 'bout that.

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    For those who are interested, here's a thread from over in CoolThaiHouse where a poster has put a shot of how he did the air gap. Very informative although fitting the Q-con behind the Red Brick is something I've not seen before.
    DD - any thoughts?
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    a good short clear read for the uninitiated
    http://www.school-for-champions.com/...insulation.htm

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    but I got to goto work and then I am off to Chang Mai
    Nearly time for me to get out of Dodge, i heard Nan province was rather nice.

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    I lost two fingers in a lawnmower accident, so I can't count how many greens you've got, but I know it's more then 8, I can count to 8.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee
    Seems like I should have been talking about clay brick rather than concrete block with respect to the double-wall exterior
    BM there are three thicknesses of concrete block that I have seen, the thinnest looks the same as the red bricks but has a similar hollow to the other concrete blocks. That might be a better alternative as it would give you a type of double air gap.

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    Super block

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog
    Here is a house being built out of superblock.



    In regards to the superblock. You will realize why it is so cheap why you try and hang a picture or an aircon unit off of it. Hate the stuff. Red bricks and mortar for me please

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    Quote Originally Posted by whosyourdaddy
    You will realize why it is so cheap why you try and hang a picture or an aircon unit off of it.
    I think you are thinking of "Breeze Blocks" or "Clinker Blocks", these are 3 and half baht each and are junk.

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    Does anyone know which form of block would be best for sound insulation? Like, for example, we all know how Thais love those big massive speakers that go boom-boom. How about advice on insulating from outside sound?

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    Quote Originally Posted by surasak
    Does anyone know which form of block would be best for sound insulation? Like, for example, we all know how Thais love those big massive speakers that go boom-boom. How about advice on insulating from outside sound?
    A pair of wire cutters on a dark night usually does the trick.....

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    Regarding cooling down an attic, I was thinking of installing an exhaust fan in my ceiling somewhere to help displace all the heat out through the vents in the eaves and draw the cool air from outside in the evenings. i have seen ones for kitchens that have a shutter so that would keep the bugs out.

    In Australia, every house has vents in each corner of each room to let the hot air flow upwards and escape, i think they would be worthwhile installing and are very cheap.

    Would one of those twirly things be as good or better? We don't get a lot of wind here....(Unless I have been eating farang food again!)

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    Re-Cool Thai House

    Thanks to all for the information regarding Superblock and the pictures from John. I would like to think that I will be able to build my home out of the same blockred brick. I have seen the Superblock web site and it is quite informative. Can not wait to return from work in Brazil to start the build.
    One more thing, do builders in Pattaya have accounts with builders merchants or do they pay cash as they have the products.
    Any web sites of builders merchants in Pattaya, I have had a look for Homemart but nothing found.

    Many thanks, Jumbo.

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    HomePro web site is useful for geting an idea of prices and availability although you will probably be able to get better deals on items by shopping around. And it tends to be biased towards accessories rather than the heavy stuff.

    Homepro | Home is Homepro

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    Quote Originally Posted by jumbo
    do builders in Pattaya have accounts with builders merchants or do they pay cash as they have the products.
    Most have accounts for basic materials, we pay when we want, or when the shop thinks we owe too much.

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    This is the only construction I have seen in Thailand where double skin cavity wall is being used as opposed to calling the hollow in the concrete blocks 'cavity wall'. Although it is not too clear in the photo the inner skin is 10cm superblock and the outer one those nasty little red bricks.

    They have also used rockwool mat in the cavity which I think is a mistake, my personal unscientific view being that leaving an air gap would keep the house cooler.

    These are a set of six houses and are 26million B by the way, and all sold already.


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    Hi can you put roof insulation under synthetic roof sheets, I was think of puttting a reflective sheet under the roof & also above the celling tiles would this help I will of course have eaves at each side of the roof.


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