Thread: Aussie Style House Build

Originally Posted by peciacake

Any suggestions on a good brand of Teak preserving oil would be very much appreciated.

Friend recommends TOA. Never had teak doors myself but I have had teak deck on a boat and used nothing. Some greying but cleaned up nice with soap and water.

No annual maintenance to remove mottle as with oil.

Originally Posted by Norton

Friend recommends TOA

Thanks Norton - TOA looks like the way to go

With big double doors like that, do you have big double screen doors behind them to keep bugs and other wildlife on the outside rather and inside?

Originally Posted by Topper

With big double doors like that, do you have big double screen doors behind them to keep bugs and other wildlife on the outside rather and inside?

Not sure what Peciacake plans on but we installed accordion style sliding screen doors and they work excellent and you don't have to contend with swinging screen doors or worry about them not latching or blowing open with the wind.

Originally Posted by Topper

With big double doors like that, do you have big double screen doors behind them to keep bugs and other wildlife on the outside rather and inside?

Yuri has an intruder phobia and insists on way over the top levels of security so we are trying to make the budget stretch to Majestec screens and doors. I wanted a brand suggested by Norton - lost that argument too....

Get a pitbull like my Bruno and nobody will dare enter the property.

In fact we very raely lock our doors.

He is great with family and friends, but those that he does not know are looking for a big problem if they trespass.

Originally Posted by Loy Toy

Get a pitbull like my Bruno and nobody will dare enter the property.

i don't think he's much use with mozzies

Originally Posted by malmomike77

i don't think he's much use with mozzies

Maybe that made sense at the time.

Originally Posted by peciacake

trying to make the budget stretch to Majestec screens

Whoa, those look pricey.

Originally Posted by peciacake

Yuri has an intruder phobia and insists on way over the top levels of security so we are trying to make the budget stretch to Majestec screens and doors.

Our screen doors are like the Majestec brand in the link. Not sure of our brand, would have to ask wife. We installed them 6+ Years ago after we got tired of swinging open screen doors. They always banged and made noise.

Our style is the accordion style and sit behind the front doors in a frame. They can lock but silly as an intruder could basically cut them and walk in. They are not designed for human intruder protection but keeping the mozzies and other insect intruders out and that they do an outstanding job and we can keep our front doors open all day.

About seven years ago, we had a couple of security screen doors fitted to the patio doors in the office and living room. Because they open on to what is a fairly large covered terrace, even during very high wind and rain, they don't get wet, though during such occasions we close the actual glass outer doors. The mesh is stainless steel, black powder coated, and they fit within the frames of the existing patio doors, and when they were fitted, the installer made it so that neither they or the glass doors could be lifted out from outside.



The handle has to be in the horizontal position to open from either inside or outside.



The handle has to be down to use the dead lock, after which the door can't be opened from the outside without a key.



The doors have been great, and we only lock them if going out or at night (though with two pit bulls in the inside of the doors, I think that's deterrent enough). Certainly helps with through flow of air throughout the downstairs. From recollection, I think they were around 100,000 baht for the two, fitted.

Very nice...green owed.

Originally Posted by PAG

About seven years ago, we had a couple of security screen doors fitted to the patio doors in the office and living room. Because they open on to what is a fairly large covered terrace, even during very high wind and rain, they don't get wet, though during such occasions we close the actual glass outer doors. The mesh is stainless steel, black powder coated, and they fit within the frames of the existing patio doors, and when they were fitted, the installer made it so that neither they or the glass doors could be lifted out from outside.



The handle has to be in the horizontal position to open from either inside or outside.



The handle has to be down to use the dead lock, after which the door can't be opened from the outside without a key.



The doors have been great, and we only lock them if going out or at night (though with two pit bulls in the inside of the doors, I think that's deterrent enough). Certainly helps with through flow of air throughout the downstairs. From recollection, I think they were around 100,000 baht for the two, fitted.

Pag, quick question. Looking at the pics the openings look pretty large. Large enough to let skeeters and other flying bugs like termites. Its hard to tell as the picture is high res so the opening size could be misleading. I like the security feature aspect, but up in these parts we do not worry about that but skeeters can be a huge nuisance a good portion of the year, starting now with rainy season and our inside of house is free of them so you can relax and chill in shorts and t shirts and not get assaulted.

Just another option for Peciacake.




Our double Teakwood doors with a slide bolt into the tile. That's about security as we go up here. Albeit we do have a motion activated CCTV that activates at night with a beeping sound if someone should come up the stairs.



This is our screen door set up. Clearly not security. Both Teak doors are open from about 5:30am when I get up until 9pm ish pretty much every day. These are bug proof meaning the openings are so small they cannot get in.



This how they open. They push along a roller and you can open both fully if you need to move furniture in or out

Originally Posted by Stumpy

Pag, quick question. Looking at the pics the openings look pretty large. Large enough to let skeeters and other flying bugs like termites. Its hard to tell as the picture is high res so the opening size could be misleading. I like the security feature aspect, but up in these parts we do not worry about that but skeeters can be a huge nuisance a good portion of the year, starting now with rainy season and our inside of house is free of them so you can relax and chill in shorts and t shirts and not get assaulted.

No, internally 'skeeters' are not a problem, and behind our house is a khlong, so a ready water source and breeding ground for skeeters. The mesh isn't as fine as the ubiquitous plastic screens, but still stops any insect. We occasionally get a gecko sneak in, as they seem to like to lie in wait in the area of the door recess. These don't last long though, not with the four cats on the loose. Security isn't really an issue with us either, with through flow of air but lockable being the main goal.

^ Cool and thanks Pag. Was curious. Our screens are the typical plastic mesh type but work exceptionally well. With the Wang river about 100 yards away, like you, its a HUGE water source and we have loads of flooded rice fields around to boot. Honestly the skeeter biting is just an occasional nuisance, but I do want to avoid Dengue fever. Also we do not have any Jingjoks in our house either. I think that is due to there are no bugs or insects to eat so no food source.

Originally Posted by malmomike77

i don't think he's much use with mozzies

I was responding to Yuri's phobia about intruders.

Originally Posted by Stumpy

Just another option for Peciacake.

Many thanks for the comments and suggestions gents. All are very much appreciated.
I like the look of the concertina doors you've installed Stumpy. It would certainly suit me, but SWMBO has different ideas. I'm hoping her plans for the kitchen absorb more funds that budgeted, so we can't afford Majestec. My primary concern is keeping the mozzies out - Dengue fever is certainly about round here. The Amphur fumigation team recently came into the village & spent the day fogging all drains, culverts and any standing water.

To give you an idea of what I'm up against. We have a 2.0 metre perimeter fence topped with barbed wire, 8 X CCTV cameras on 24/7, double dead lock teak external doors and deadlocks with security latches on the bedroom doors. Plus we will have two dogs, the Thai snake catcher breed: great guard dogs. But she still wants security screens on all external doors and windows.... shaking my head while i walk away...

Unless there is a very high incident of theft in your village, it is certainly a mystery why SWMBO is so insistent.

Originally Posted by peciacake

But she still wants security screens on all external doors and windows

Are you talking bars on the window type deals or the metal screens.

My wife tried to sell me on that decorative bars on the window idea and I told her its never gonna happen. I do not like them and that's that.

Originally Posted by Stumpy

Are you talking bars on the window type deals or the metal screens.

Specifically,
Security doors and Security windows: Majestec premium security screen and hardware

Originally Posted by Stumpy

My wife tried to sell me on that decorative bars on the window idea and I told her its never gonna happen. I do not like them and that's that.

They make a house look like a prison, in my view. My side of the village has seen about a dozen new houses over the past year or so, all locals' homes. Not one of them has opted for the metal bars over the windows. Maybe the fashions are changing.
That said, the village never had crime issues until a few years back. Now, with yabba everywhere, the situation is definitely deteriorating. A couple of weeks back a man here killed his father whilst high on drugs.
I'm not convinced how useful those steel cages are anyway. Usually they are simply screwed on from the outside. There was a cctv clip, maybe I saw it here on TD, where a chap walked to the back of the house, picked up a rod or a long-handled tool and very quickly levered off the 'security bars'.

Originally Posted by Shutree

Usually they are simply screwed on from the outside.

Bit shit if the house is on fire

Originally Posted by Shutree

Usually they are simply screwed on from the outside.

Originally Posted by helge

Bit shit if the house is on fire

They can be dangerous in a fire. Many people in the states have died being trapped. They are well attached in states with heavy moly bolts. Here in cement they are not that well mounted and can probably be easily just pulled off but still are really an eye sore to a house.

PAGs are quite nice and look really well designed and made.

In agreement with Peciacake whichever option chosen, keeping skeeters out has to be the priority to avoid Dengue fever and avoid being assaulted by the bastards while one sleeps, especially if you leave your windows open all the time like I do.

We just got that local fog process in our mooban. I always bring the dogs in and close up the place for a few hours to be safe, never asked what the hell it is but it can't be good for you.

Originally Posted by Norton

Unless there is a very high incident of theft in your village, it is certainly a mystery why SWMBO is so insistent.

It's just the way she is Norton. Was the same when we were living in a ground floor apartment in Sydney, in a safe suburb. She was always apprehensive about intruders.
Ayong is pretty quiet - the youngsters are good kids and don't cause any trouble, but there are a couple of crime gangs in the local area running yabba etc that are definitely trouble, so I can see her point to an extent.