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    the japanese male sits down facing the cistern so he has a table to rest his beverage

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealKW View Post
    That's just it, it doesn't. I need to be standing to empty the bladder.
    So when you are taking a dump and have to pee you stand up?
    Isn't that a bit messy?

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    And while the great debate of Standing up to pee VS sitting down rages on , we have continued working on the walls.
    We laid a beam across the wall one third of the way up to give the walls straight, (On walls without windows we put a beam half way up.), And we built up the block on either side of the window opening Leaving 5 inches space on both sides then we put some rebar in that space, like you see on top of the window, closes the space with wood planks and poured concrete in that void, stetting the window in the wall. Tomorrow, I will strip the forms, pour a beam on top of the windows, finish the block, and get started with the finish skim coat.
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    The sooner you fall behind, the more time you have to catch up.

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    Sorry I sort of abandoned this thread. As it turned out , it was not as easy of a job as I remembered to be while I was younger, It Kicked my ass and I was in no mood to be downloading pictures or posting, all I wanted to do was get it finished , clean up the mess and get my life back to normal.
    This heat did not help either, Next time I decide to do something like this, I will hire a builder.
    On the bright side it is all finished, and it only cost me about 30,000 bht and a couple of years of the top of my life LOL
    I did have some help from my brother in law and his friend who was very good at doing the finish skim coat on the walls.
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    We got the door frame in
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    fixed the ceiling plaster board around where we had cut it out , and primed the walls after waiting a couple of days for the finish skim coat to dry out, and fixed the tiles in the corners where we took the column dressings out and the floor was bare concrete, lucky I had some tiles left from when we build the house. It is always a good advice to get extra tiles when you are doing a tile job, because you will never find the same tiles again, even if you find them they will be from a diferent firing batch and they will be of a slightly different color.
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    A couple of coats of finish paint , and voila !! a nice 14x18 ft room to put my extra stuff in.
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    Raining for two days now here in Khon Kaen, got some of my stuff in the room , and time to get lazy again,
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    Looking good. No aircon? or is that on order?

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    Buck, can I pick your brain for questions?
    Our downstairs is almost the same,we only built in half of the lower floor.
    I want to do something similar as a dedicated karaoke, With masses of insulation between the ceiling and the connection floor
    How far down did you dig to lay the foundation for the walls, It looked like they just layed straight on the floor concrete after cutting the tiles out, Is that strong enough?
    Our floor concrete is probably 3 inches max, Thai style.?
    I was always thinking that I would have to cut through the tiles and concrete floor and dig out a trench to make a reinforced footing at my place?

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    Fine job Buck, it looks really good. I have tried the finish skim coat on walls, its damn hard. A Thai man can make it look easy, but it's not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by havnfun View Post
    Buck, can I pick your brain for questions?
    Our downstairs is almost the same,we only built in half of the lower floor.
    I want to do something similar as a dedicated karaoke, With masses of insulation between the ceiling and the connection floor
    How far down did you dig to lay the foundation for the walls, It looked like they just layed straight on the floor concrete after cutting the tiles out, Is that strong enough?
    Our floor concrete is probably 3 inches max, Thai style.?
    I was always thinking that I would have to cut through the tiles and concrete floor and dig out a trench to make a reinforced footing at my place?
    I removed the tiles only so that the block would adhere to the slab , below the slab there are beams that transfer the load to the foundation footings.
    So this is how the your house should have been build.
    Below there is a cad video I did for a friend when I made a 2D model of one of the government free plans he was thinking of building.
    Anyway first you dig the foundation footing pads about a meter deep , and you pour the pads and columns to grade.
    First we pour the foundation footings a meter deep
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    Then you pour the ground beams
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    Then you pure the first flr slab, and you go up.
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    if your house was build properly , they should have followed that process. So dig a little bit on the side of your slab to see if there is a beam under it.
    I realize that Thais dont always follow these steps, some times they pour the columns or even use the prefabricated ones and then they pore a thick floor slab, if that's the case don't panic , if your floor slab is strong enough to support your living, and driving on it with your car, it will certainly support your Q-con (AAC block) walls, these blocks are so light that some of them made in Europe float in water. The walls will not be supporting walls anyway since your whole upstairs is supported by your columns.
    I have a bit of experience on the subject having spend 30 years in the carpenters union NYC specializing on High-rise construction concrete forms, so when you decide to do this let me know and I will advise you accordingly. Below is a 3D model I made for a friend when he was building one of the free government plans, where I made some modifications to it for him and showed him how to build it. Don't ask me to do it again, I have not played with Sketch-Up for years , but it will give you an idea what the bones of your house should look like. especially on the second half of the video.

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    Quote Originally Posted by havnfun View Post
    Our floor concrete is probably 3 inches max, Thai style.?
    I was always thinking that I would have to cut through the tiles and concrete floor and dig out a trench to make a reinforced footing at my place?
    I do not think that you have to make such deep foundation. If you pour new concrete layer 10 cm thick with some kind of the reinforcement mesh, it could be OK, unless you will drive in with a 10-lor truck...

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    Looking good so far, Buckaroo Banzai. Should be a beaut when completed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clark77 View Post
    Looking good so far, Buckaroo Banzai. Should be a beaut when completed.
    Perhaps you didnt read the whole thread?

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    Room is coming along great, be good to see the finished pics once its set-up.

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    Slightly off topic. In looking at the finished rooms I noted it was tiled with high glaze Thai tiles that are like ice when wet and at ground level it will get wet.

    Has anyone used non-skid wax such as Bosny B-225 on a fllor here, and if so was it any help?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    I do not think that you have to make such deep foundation. If you pour new concrete layer 10 cm thick with some kind of the reinforcement mesh, it could be OK, unless you will drive in with a 10-lor truck...
    I agree,
    AAC block walls are very lite, you don't need much of a foundation , but if you are concerned about the floor supporting the wall in the long run , you can always pour a beam on top of the slab, it will not support the slab but it will support the wall. I always pour a beam under and over the windows (picture from when I was building the house)
    No reason why a beam such as the one under the window could not be poured on top of the floor.
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    Thanks BB, will check with the missus about the crossbeams, she did tell me that if she fell in the column holes that she wouldn't be able to get out.
    I was here for some of the build at different times, but that was so long ago, can't remember. What you layed out there rings a bell so i reckon its the same, i'll check first with the builders,.
    Tell me please, are those (AACblocks) better at noise suppression or the same as the typical Thai block? you had it built for a bit now, notice any difference?

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    AAC blocks are about the best option you can get for sound isolation as far as I know.
    (Disclaimer: my hearing is only 20% or so last time I measured..)

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    AAC blocks are good not only for the sound isolation but also for the thermal isolation. However, if there are in that wall windows, door, the sound will find its way.

    Besides, the AAC blocks are not very strong. So, once you dodge a punch from your loved one, it can result in a hole in the wall (from your head or from the punch).

    Instead of the concrete vertical and horizontal structure as shown in the picture above, you can erect the wall by the usual cinder blocks that are 4 -5 times cheaper than the AAC blocks. And they are also load bearing, you do not need to make any columns (sau) - or other structure - as it is usual in Thailand.

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