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    Quote Originally Posted by Shutree View Post
    Congratulations, it has all come together very well. The orchids are wonderful. Maybe you can offer some tips to Mendip's gardner.
    Well firstly, Mendip's gardener apparently has to move around a bit more frequently and water a bit more. I am starting to think that Mendip is the gardener and the "other" guy is just a neighbor who drops by to watch..

    Thanks on the pool project and area. We are still adding various plants around it. It will take a few years to fill in. I will probably add 3 or 4 more foxtail type palms at various heights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPPR2 View Post
    Now I just shoot the bastards once they start nesting. Best prevention method to date. Same for pigeons.
    I would have thought you could scare them off nesting by using your drone, i don't imagine many would feel safe if you buzzed the gutters regularly.

    Nice Pool and Infra btw

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    A few pool updates for anyone that might be interested.

    The pool has been great. Had a few pool parties with friends and was quite relaxing. One thing that I have been monitoring is the water temperature. We have been "Enjoying" 39c to 42c weather here in Lampang and the pool water temp had risen to about 30c. Not too uncomfortable but not as refreshing as 25/27c. I have switched pool filtering times to 3am to 7am and this has brought the water temp to 27/28c. Moving the cooler surface water around at night is far more thermally efficient. During the day I let the water temp rise at the top but about 4" down its still cool. I had many who said how will you heat it in the winter, I laughed and said "Winter time the water is perfect, Its not about heating it here, its all about how to cool it" . The temperature outlook for the next 4 weeks looks to be 39+C. I will see how it trends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by strigils View Post
    I would have thought you could scare them off nesting by using your drone, i don't imagine many would feel safe if you buzzed the gutters regularly.

    Nice Pool and Infra btw
    Mynah birds are relentless. They are extremely smart. You can pressure them enough where they will look elsewhere but it takes effort. Pigeons are a different problem because their shit (Like bats) carries a host of bacteria and the birds themselves are a parasite haven primarily as they are pretty much domesticated and do not live far from humans. Pigeons are hard to remove because they never leave their nest area and where ever they have chicks, they return to nest. Why many are "Homing" pigeons. The only way to stop them is continually tear their nests down or kill them. I just shoot them. Stop one breeding cycle and that ends it. I have not had a pigeon near my house in a year or more. My neighbors have many and the have bird shit all down the sides of their houses and gutters full of crap.

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    Got it, keeps your eye in too. I'm no pigeon fan either, the fukers roost on my wheelie bin and shit all over them

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    I am trying to cover my pool to achieve a constant temperature of around 22 degrees C.

    Apart from the morning sun the pool is mainly covered and hopefully we can do so.

    I will update you about our success or failure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by strigils View Post
    Got it, keeps your eye in too. I'm no pigeon fan either, the fukers roost on my wheelie bin and shit all over them
    Pigeons = flying rats basicly

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPPR2 View Post
    Mynah birds are relentless. They are extremely smart. You can pressure them enough where they will look elsewhere but it takes effort. Pigeons are a different problem because their shit (Like bats) carries a host of bacteria and the birds themselves are a parasite haven primarily as they are pretty much domesticated and do not live far from humans. Pigeons are hard to remove because they never leave their nest area and where ever they have chicks, they return to nest. Why many are "Homing" pigeons. The only way to stop them is continually tear their nests down or kill them. I just shoot them. Stop one breeding cycle and that ends it. I have not had a pigeon near my house in a year or more. My neighbors have many and the have bird shit all down the sides of their houses and gutters full of crap.
    JP I travel around alot & every where there are birds, flying around houses with swimming pools (Also houses with out pool)
    1 house I come across had no birds at all, I ask the owner he told me he had a big problem with birds.
    He had some black corflute, he cut out a pattern of a hawk, 4 of them hanged then up around the house, now there are no bird, only the black hawks that flap around in the wind.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JPPR2 View Post
    A few pool updates for anyone that might be interested.

    The pool has been great. Had a few pool parties with friends and was quite relaxing. One thing that I have been monitoring is the water temperature. We have been "Enjoying" 39c to 42c weather here in Lampang and the pool water temp had risen to about 30c. Not too uncomfortable but not as refreshing as 25/27c. I have switched pool filtering times to 3am to 7am and this has brought the water temp to 27/28c. Moving the cooler surface water around at night is far more thermally efficient. During the day I let the water temp rise at the top but about 4" down its still cool. I had many who said how will you heat it in the winter, I laughed and said "Winter time the water is perfect, Its not about heating it here, its all about how to cool it" . The temperature outlook for the next 4 weeks looks to be 39+C. I will see how it trends.
    The water in our pool is 33 degrees now... a bit too warm really. This time of year it gets the full sun for most of the day until around 4pm and we're getting a consistent 37/38 degree day time temperature.

    I've tried varying the pump/water circulation time without any noticeable change. I think we just have to live with this. How to cool the water?

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    Any possibility of putting up an awning?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mendip View Post
    How to cool the water?
    I recall that Klondyke's pool threadshows his unique set-up for cooling. Can't find anything on TD, it is there somewhere.

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    ^I am flattered...

    Here it is:
    Pool Plans-chute-jpg


    Chute (or a spillway?) where the water is brought in first on nearly horizontal roof 4 m long, then dropping down.
    Or better "dripping"(?), the effect of small drops helps to cool the water, similarly as cooling towers of power plants in high temperature countries - as it is in Thailand.

    For the cooling - as in these months April up to ca. June - the water flow from the filtering proceeds during night hours.

    For the heating - as in November up to beg. March - the water flow from the filtering proceeds during the bright sunshine hours.

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    ^The current situation:
    The heavy ceramic tiles 40x40 were dropping down since sitting on wooden battens that hadn't hold long, exchanged by long roof tiles (kabb-ang)

    Pool Plans-img_0697a-jpg

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    I remember that set up, I think it was posted earlier in this thread. Functionally should work. Similar in principle to what we call a swamp cooler.

    Today water temp is 28/29c which is OK for me. Changing the pump timing to early morning has made a 2c cooler difference. I am not going off on a big mission to cool it just yet. In Las Vegas a few of my friends had sunk 2 big water tanks in the ground and when the water temp was hot they just baffled a few valves and could control the temp to virtually 25c to 26c. Winter time here I do not care. Its perfect for me. A crisp 23c to 24c is refreshing. Of course growing up on the Northern California coast, the water was always cold so I like it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPPR2 View Post
    Winter time here I do not care. Its perfect for me. A crisp 23c to 24c is refreshing.
    23-24 refreshing? Perhaps for Mr. Putin, surely not for me.

    Actually, in winter time the water drops usually under 20c. So, any simple way to make it warmer is appreciated.

    Already a wide edge surface at the overflowing side(s) where the water is laying ca. 1" also helps in the bright winter days.

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    Despite my water cooling measures, today the pool water temperature nudged 36 degrees. This is higher than my body temperature according to the vast majority of sensors I walk past when entering shops these days.



    For comparison I took the temperature of the pond which has no water cooling measures applied.

    Just nudging 36 degrees... glad I'm not a fish living in there.


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    Is that surface temperature or deeper?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealKW View Post
    Is that surface temperature or deeper?
    It's attached to a floating duck, take a guess...

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    Our pool has some shelter from a wall, palms and stuff so it's usually pretty good, can defo feel the temp change when first go into the part that gets the most sun though.

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    ^^

    It was the surface temperature but in the pool I also stood on the duck for a while and the bottom temperature was exactly the same.

    The water in the pond has much less circulation than the pool so maybe the temperature is slightly lower at depth.

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    ^Ever thinking about calibration of the thermometer? Or perhaps the Fahrenheits fighting with Celsiuses?

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