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    That looks simply brilliant - very, very well done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fishlocker View Post
    Nice one JPPR2. I salute your design and efforts. I hope you and yours enjoy many a new year and as allways keep on swimming. ...
    Well Thanks Fish and Happy New Year. I plan on basically living in the pool. I want to swim every day for about an hour for the exercise.

    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    That looks simply brilliant - very, very well done.
    Cheers PH. Again it was a fun project.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChalkyDee View Post
    I'm looking to do something similar, but only 3x8m

    Would 500k cover it all, including decking but no bar?
    If you want to do it by DIY you can look on my thread few years ago, it can give you some ideas, also the cost break down for 12x3m. Any more know-how, I can help.

    DIY in Thailand does not mean by your hands but by hands of village workers (organized by your wife) and by your brain and supervizing. It's quite an easy job in Thailand. And made as you want, not as a company would persuade you.

    The material is very easily to calculate and to get, then just the workmanship estimation either by lump sump (mau) or by daily rate of 3 - 4 workers. For the cladding there is a great choice everywhere. If I ever do another pool I would choose large tiles granite-like laid with zero gap as you can see in some nice shops or clinics.

    The filtering equipment you can buy in Global House for a tenth of what you would pay to a special company.

    But if your wife is refusing another diamond ring then why not to sit back and look how a company will do it for you.

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    I agree with Klondyke, DIY can be much cheaper. In most cases they work out well if you can find competent people to do the work. As for Global house for pool filter and pump supplies I would be guarded especially if you plan on a saltwater pool. Originally I investigated numerous options and found that the good ol statement holds true, "You get what you pay for" and here in Thailand that holds very true.

    @ ChalkyDee, I highly encourage you to do some research looking at both high end options down to Klondyke's DIY recommendations. I did that months before I decided which way I wanted to go and used a little of both on our build. The cost range here is dramatic but if you go really cheap you could end up spending all your time chasing or fixing issues and not enjoying your pool. I learned a tremendous amount and there are areas where I could have done it for less but those are lessons learned. That said, I absolutely wouldn't go cheap on pump, filter unit, electrical or plumbing.

    Good luck on your project

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    ^Flattered by the trust...

    Anyway, there is nothing much difficult on a construction of floor and 4 rectangular walls clad by tiles built by village "chaang pun". There are surely not many issues to fix.

    And as of the pumping, filtering, plumbing, electrical by cheap generally available equipment: my experience with it over 10 years. While reading on pool forums often desperate stories of an equipment of big names...

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    I absolutely respect your input Klondyke. As they say many ways to skin a rabbit. Over my years here I have seen some pools that were in pretty poor shape. In asking it was because they used poor help and the tiles cracked and the grout started falling out. While I agree it's just a simple rectangle there are secondary and tertiary thoughts that need to be in play and most of those villagers do not have the skill. They make a box and done.

    I actually looked on line and went to Global House looking at Pumps and Filter assys. As a consumer you better know 100% which pump will work or not because those service agents have no idea.

    So a lot boils down to your own personal research and the equipment you choose. For me I wanted a problem free pool so I spent the extra money on trusted equipment. While more expensive then Thai Watsadu or Global house the quality is clearly there and with years of experience.

    I think good research is paramount. There is a big difference between making a pond and a swimming pool albeit some of the gear looks the same.

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    Would anybody think that a tile layer from a company remote from the pool site makes his job much better than a worker who has provided many jobs in area around which quality can be seen after years?

    I have seen many pools with the small tiles - built by pool companies - especially with the mosaic tiles that after 5 - 7 years had to be re-tiled. Imagine the many kms of the gaps...When there is a small defect at the grouting the small tile will no longer held.

    Unlike a larger tile where the sum of the lengths of the gaps and their grouting - that however are never perfectly made (the workers hurry up, they want their last payment) - is a fragment of the mosaic ones. A small defect will not cause any breakage. Even if it is bond by a normal cement as mine it is.

    About the equipment - from a professional shop or general store - I leave to imagination how much different quality they are. My filter was 7,500 Baht (in GH) and pump 8,000 Baht. The installation in my Hi-Tech room does not look very fashionable since re-made many times, firstly using DIY filter by a plastic barrel and a normal pump before discovering the pool equipment at GH. Anyway, all it works without any problems with PVC piping and fitting bought at the hardware village shop and installed by a not professional plumber.

    So, back to the original cost question: the pool 8x3m should be made in DIY by less than 200,000.

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    Solar fan option

    Again thought I'd post up a picture of another solar fan I located. This one is much larger for a greater spread and comes with a remote that you can not only turn on and off, but change speeds. I played with a few mounting areas and decided to mount it in the corner of the sala.



    Kit comes with a well made fan and stand, remote, AC Charger (if you do not want to use the solar panel) and large solar panel.



    It mounted up nicely in the corner of the sala and at speed 10 it really moves some air. This should prove to be very nice when summer comes. The Sala has become my wife and dogs favorite hang out area and I work there as well being I am 100% remote at this time.


    Couple of additional notes. The kit is made locally in Thailand by the same company that made the solar lights I used on the poles back earlier in the thread. The directions show a fan and the AC adaptor but nothing about the panel. The solar panel was adapted to the plug in port on the fan. The solar panel does not come with a mounting bracket so you will have to fab up something on your own. The solar panel frame has numerous holes to adapt to any mounting configuration. The remote shows a "Swing" and "Hold" button but clearly this does not swing as it is fixed mount.

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    Cold day here . Snow . Covid . Town Centre is UNBELIEVABLY Silent . A bit scarey really .
    So I sit on the sofa and randomly pick out a Pool Building Thread . JPPR2 was always good .
    And in the first frame he is Cancelling the whole deal !!! No Pool !!!!
    " Pulling the Plug .... " was very confusing !
    W.

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    Just read this thread again, from start to finish!

    Great job, and interesting thread! I have pool and bar envy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wasp View Post
    Cold day here . Snow . Covid . Town Centre is UNBELIEVABLY Silent . A bit scarey really .
    Where are you?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealKW View Post
    Great job, and interesting thread! I have pool and bar envy.
    That's my boy. He don't fuck around.

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    [QUOTE=bsnub;4209240]Where are you?

    Udon Thani .

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    Hey Wasp, welcome back to TD. I hope you got through the thread ok.

    @KW... Thanks again. I am just putting some finishing touches on it landscaping and pool lounge furnishings, summer is just around the corner and that pool bar is going to get some use. Actually I sit out there now every morning and catch up on work and other stuff. Quite relaxing.

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    Few more updates.

    Its been about a month or so now since install. All has been good. I have the pool dialed in now and it stays nice a clean and chemistry is quite stable. I have added one 25kg bag of salt in the last month (120 bht). Its been great swimming some laps in the afternoon then floating around. Speaking of floating around...



    Wife picked me up a dual beer holder floater. I dropped in a beer to check it out. PERFECT!!



    Pool bar stocked with good basics and the rest are empties for show. Fridge loaded with beer and mixers



    View of the pool fountains running from the upstairs Sala sitting area.



    Wife located a nice big umbrella to cover up from the sun



    Wife snuck in her swinging chair that she always wanted but its always a battle as she can't get my niece out of it.



    Our Golden has found her favorite spot in the sala by the pool to relax.

    We look forward to the coming summer months. So far the pool water temp has sustained about 24c (75f) during this winter period. I will have to wait and see what happens during the summer months. Again due to the pools location, the sun is blocked by the house in the mid afternoon so the pool only sees full direct sun from say 9am until 2pm, after 2pm only about 30% at the deep end has direct sunlight until the sun sets.

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    Very nice, well done. It is looking fantastic and seems like you are enjoying it and are happy with it so well done.
    Do the dogs go swimming voluntarily or do you have to make them jump in?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ootai View Post
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    Very nice, well done. It is looking fantastic and seems like you are enjoying it and are happy with it so well done.
    Do the dogs go swimming voluntarily or do you have to make them jump in?
    Thanks Ootai, we do enjoy it.

    The dogs are not allowed in the pool. While it sounds like a fun idea, in the end it becomes a pain in the ass for a lot of reasons. When I was growing up we had a pool and my 2 labs were in it more than we were I think. As soon as I dove in by the time I got to the surface both were belly flopping in with me. It really isn't that fun being in the pool with dogs flipping around and their nails scratching you.

    My golden has her own little pool to cool off and I can tip it over and make a new one.

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    JP ...... continuing an answer you gave me .............. you looked at Chlorine Pools and considered also Salt Water instead . And chose Chlorine .
    Did you find cause to hesitate about going the Salt Water way ?

    That's a really fine-looking pool by the way .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wasp View Post
    JP ...... continuing an answer you gave me .............. you looked at Chlorine Pools and considered also Salt Water instead . And chose Chlorine .
    Did you find cause to hesitate about going the Salt Water way ?

    That's a really fine-looking pool by the way .

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    Waspy,
    Our pool is a salt water pool. We do not add Chlorine. The salt is converted through a few anode panels and a ECC controller.

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    Well what an ass I can be !
    I haven't got that far in my reading . I'm on Page 8 . If I had waited to the end I might have seen it is Salt Water .
    Forgive my intrusion ! If my name pops up again just ignore me .

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    Looks like heaven mate. Well done.

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    Gave up,

    On the side of the house between the pool was a section of area that was grass but due to the lack of sun it always dies off a bit but then grows back during rainy season. However when the rain comes the water comes off the roof makes it a mud pit that our dogs run through and this creates a mess situation that will always end up on the deck and pool and it was either give the dogs to the temple or cover it up. That said we have decided to cement it over and add drainage then the pebble tech surface to tie it in to the pool bar surface

    So back at it we go







    Side yard between house and pool. There is actually a lot to consider by cementing it over as the water would run off and all go to the pool area under the deck. My Uncle and I drew up some sketches of a grate covered concept to allow run off and channel the rain water away from pool area.



    This pipe will be cut out as we are using it for a mold as we cement it. The top will open and the grate will be welded up so water can run into it all along the side of the house



    We fabricated and set in place a steel grate holder.



    Let the cement work begin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPPR2 View Post
    Let the cement work begin.
    Can't beat a blue pipe concept.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    Can't beat a blue pipe concept.
    Well the blue pipe will be cut in half and reset in the channel so it's open the full length. I didn't want just cement because it holds debris and grows mold. Then there will be a galvanized steel grate over it so you shouldn't see the pipe. At least that's the concept..

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    First section of grating done.


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    I had to laugh about you saying that area got messy as I see you as a neat freak so you couldn't put up with that hey?

    Then I thought about you making more work for yourself as you seem to have a habit of doing and thought to myself "does this guy ever sit still and relax?

    What's the next project?

    P.S. Looks good though

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