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    Quote Originally Posted by Wasp View Post
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    I've always been stopped from moving to Thailand by the thought of having nothing to do . All day . In that heat .
    And I always quite fancied setting up a workshop with a few good machines and air-conditioning . Churning out Venetian slats would be a great activity !


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    No it would not Wasp Dude,

    lieland is terminally fooked and best visited for 3 months then fook of out of the shit house to Arsetralia for 3 months. Rinse and repeat.

    You move here full time Bra and you will regret the day you even had that silly though.

    Anyway, you have a nice day Waspy.

    Rippa mate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by terry57 View Post
    No it would not Wasp Dude,

    lieland is terminally fooked and best visited for 3 months then fook of out of the shit house to Arsetralia for 3 months. Rinse and repeat.

    You move here full time Bra and you will regret the day you even had that silly though.

    Anyway, you have a nice day Waspy.

    Rippa mate.
    I do appreciate your thoughts terencecinquantesept --- and the beautifully melodic way in which you express them . Quite poetic at times .
    But I'm getting old now . I was younger last week . And I amble into the shops and see folks around my age who are stumbling around looking like they spend their nights in a mortuary .
    I'm not at that stage but I am seriously aged now and I don't want to end up eating lasagne and salad for Lunch in the nearest Garden Centre .
    Thailand --- does NOT appeal to me .
    Continuing on here until Death By Apathy takes place does not appeal either .
    Air-Conditioned workshop .... Growing vegetables in cooler hours ....... hot evenings with some chilled Leo ........ Love of a good woman ( I haven't actually got that but for now the neutrality of an ever-smiling idiot will have to suffice ) .
    It's not a total rule-out of a prospect .

    I must move on and answer a petulant ootai !

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    Funny , Klondyke .

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    Quote Originally Posted by ootai View Post
    Wasp I think you are a little bit over sensitive, I didn't say you were a cheap Charlie
    I think its time I took my bat and ball and went home dragging my tail.
    So here we go again .

    The Circular tongue-lashing !!!

    If I am looking at an economical way to reduce the Heat in a wall I am a " Cheap Charlie ! "

    And if I object to being described by such a personal insult I am " Over-sensitive "

    And if I object to " Over-sensitive " I will be " Over-Over-Sensitive " no doubt !

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    ootai ..... Wasp , I suggested an awning but today someone else mentions it and they get praise what did I get?

    Well that was a bloody stupid idea !!
    ( Actually juehoe it was a very nice and appreciated idea ! )

    ootai ..... Wasp , I also mentioned the angle of the sun at this time of the year but again someone else says about that and again you praise him .

    A very nice idea from Vocalneal .
    Silly from oots . Mainly because Vocalneal is not Australian .


    ootai ..... I mentioned the "simple" solution of shading and got told off but someone else mentions it and you again lavish him with praise.

    Not a very welcome idea from oots..... but it seems a pretty good one from NamPikToot .
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    After all
    NamPikTootDID give me a ' Greeny !'

    So take your bat and ball and shove off .


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    Quote Originally Posted by Wasp View Post
    I do appreciate your thoughts terencecinquantesept --- and the beautifully melodic way in which you express them . Quite poetic at times .
    But I'm getting old now . I was younger last week . And I amble into the shops and see folks around my age who are stumbling around looking like they spend their nights in a mortuary .
    I'm not at that stage but I am seriously aged now and I don't want to end up eating lasagne and salad for Lunch in the nearest Garden Centre .
    Thailand --- does NOT appeal to me .
    Continuing on here until Death By Apathy takes place does not appeal either .
    Air-Conditioned workshop .... Growing vegetables in cooler hours ....... hot evenings with some chilled Leo ........ Love of a good woman ( I haven't actually got that but for now the neutrality of an ever-smiling idiot will have to suffice ) .
    It's not a total rule-out of a prospect .

    I must move on and answer a petulant ootai !

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    Na, it don't go down that way Waspy.

    You will end up drinking piss 24/7 and stroke out.

    The retards will roll your bent and fuked body into the river and spend the rest of your money on Ya-Ba.

    I'm warning ya Waspy dude eh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by terry57 View Post
    Na, it don't go down that way Waspy.

    You will end up drinking piss 24/7 and stroke out.

    The retards will roll your bent and fuked body into the river and spend the rest of your money on Ya-Ba.

    I'm warning ya Waspy dude eh.
    You paint a grim picture .

    Maybe I should move somewhere a bit cooler .

    Darwin looks nice .

    W.

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    There is a thread on here about misting the whole thing cost around 3500 baht.

    But now I'm leaning towards the battons, insulation and exterior cladding. No moving parts no on/off, no maintenace.

    This thread is all good for thought?

    Not an Aussie but have offspring there!

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    Quote Originally Posted by VocalNeal View Post
    There is a thread on here about misting the whole thing cost around 3500 baht.

    But now I'm leaning towards the battons, insulation and exterior cladding. No moving parts no on/off, no maintenace.
    God Dammit !!!

    I had decided on Battens et cetera with only air . Not insulation . Now I'm back to Foam Insulation .

    OK . Battens , Foam Insulation , Covering Boards . And if more is required ...... Q Con wall behind the present wall .

    Done .

    End of Thread .




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    From another forum.

    there is actually a very premium brand of reflective paaint on the market in Thailand. Yes the person was very right about high quality white paint except when it gets dirty. the paint i am refering too has a high content of reflective componenets built into it - acutally much higher than the western competitors and the cost is comparitve to high quality house paint. It can be used indoors or outdoors and can be pigmented to desiered colors(within reason) it is distributed in Thailand by the Starkool company. 024164527 ask for Joe or Ruengrit (ronreet) I have used this product on iffices here and in Dubai and have seen tremendous savings on cooling bill.
    Good luck.

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    Just cover the house in tin foil, you'll send the neighbours blind but at least the aliens wont know what you are up to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wasp View Post

    I've always been stopped from moving to Thailand by the thought of having nothing to do . All day . In that heat .

    Oh dear....


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    From another forum.

    Good luck.

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    Maybe just mirrors ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wasp View Post
    f I am looking at an economical way to reduce the Heat in a wall I am a " Cheap Charlie ! "
    As a previous house build went awry, I would suggest not "Cheap Charlie", but one who learns from experience and tries not to do similar in the future.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wasp View Post
    Unfortunately it was the " traditional style " of the moron builder . I wasn't there . My Bahts were sent there to represent me and Missy was doing a relatively simple conversion . Just replacing crappy wood walls with cement bricks . Taking off a corrugated tin roof and using cooler materials. But the 'cousin-builder' knew she had access to English ££ and just kept going .
    Start with the cheapest option. I'm sure your "cousin/builder" will embellish it and charge you for any extras.

    As for not knowing what you would do in Thailand. Maybe the Italian way, could be a guide. A few hours "toiling" in the morning, a light lunch possibly a glass of Barolo, A siesta with Missy, a stroll inspecting the abundant weeds, which may need some attention tomorrow, or the next day, or the ..... , a bowl of Missy's best cooking and an early retirement with Missy.

    There are worse alternatives, digging ones camper out of the track sand in the Australian Blight.
    A tray full of GOLD is not worth a moment in time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    As for not knowing what you would do in Thailand.
    An old wisdom of red Indians:
    If you do not know what to do, do nothing...

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    The problem as I see it is that all types of insulation only slows the rate of heat transmission and does not stop it. Continuous days of heat will eventually heat the whole structure and create a giant heat sink that will gradually radiate heat through the house and to the outside air during the night and reheat in the day.
    The greater the outside surface temperature of the wall the greater the heat flow.
    You need to mitigate the outside wall temperature with shading. If you dont like the idea of verandahs, trees, etc. You could try a trellis attached with spacers on the wall with a climbing vine that can tolerate heat.
    What ever you do you would be better to combine this with a flow through ventilation system in the ceiling combined with some whirlybirds on the roof which will help remove the heat radiated in to the living space from the walls to the outside. Exhaust fans in the ceiling will help cool and are much cheaper to run than air conditioning. If a 2 storey house place them above the stairwell will help eliminate the heat trap formed at the top of the stairs. If the bathroom is at on the top floor a good sized ventilation fan with a vented door will help and serve the dual purpose of helping to keep the Thai wet bathroom drier and make it possible to actually dry yourself after a shower. Whatever method you choose, let us know how well it works when you have finished. Good luck.

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    What I don't get is why you are always doing home improvements on that house you've built up, thats not lived in by you for a woman you are not even seeing.

    Is there a child involved here?

    Sorry if that's intrusive, I just don't get why you'd worry about cooling the sides of a house that you don't live in for a family of natives who are well accustomed to the heat

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dillinger View Post
    I just don't get why you'd worry about cooling the sides of a house that you don't live in for a family of natives who are well accustomed to the heat
    And if there was a way to cool a wall they'd be the best at knowing how to do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dillinger View Post
    I just don't get why you'd worry about cooling the sides of a house that you don't live in for a family of natives who are well accustomed to the heat
    Well that was a question I was going to ask being he is not living in the house. Albeit he did say he was going to visit and he could not stay there if too hot.

    If its only for you Waspy for a short stay visit, just stay in a nearby hotel with Max AC.

    I am with Dil and Prag, Thai folk will figure out how to cool it down and if not, they just work around it with fans and such.

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    Yer,

    Ya gota cut Waspy some slack though.

    He's bang out of his mind on that Bogan Hydroponic mull.

    Powerful shit i tell ya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dillinger View Post
    What I don't get is why you are always doing home improvements on that house you've built up, thats not lived in by you for a woman you are not even seeing.

    Is there a child involved here?

    Sorry if that's intrusive, I just don't get why you'd worry about cooling the sides of a house that you don't live in for a family of natives who are well accustomed to the heat
    OK.....
    1. I'm just nice .
    Missy doesn't spend a huge chunk of her year there either - but when she IS there the place is badly designed and too hot even for her .
    So she uses the standard Thai/Auzzie/Pommy approach . Moaning how she can not sleep .
    Thai solution ? Buy more fans .
    And as soon as she heads off in the back of a pickup in the direction of Suvarnabhumi Airport the brother , cousins , neighbours grab the fans and either disperse them or sell them . So it would be more sensible in the long run if I kindly out of kindly pure kindness bang up some Battens and boards and at least reduce the heat building up in 2 walls .

    2. Shading is appealing . Just a bit difficult to achieve when you look at the structure and position .
    Grandma is 6 metres away and she is now 93 . SURELY the bewildered old sod will pop off to the Wat soon ? Then her old , old wooden house will be taken down and after all the snakes , rats and spiders have slunk away we will have space for shading trees and bushes galore .
    Right now though I wouldn't trust the weight of concrete tubs , soil and bushes on that cousin-built walkway .

    3. I am NOT always making improvements . Mostly I am repairing shitty cousin lack-of-workmanship .
    You see a long cement piece running along the edge of the balcony and next time you look ... it's drooping down .
    Turns out it was a ' design feature ' that has been NAILED into place purely to cover up the crappy work behind it .

    4. Despite the claim -- I don't believe the natives ARE well accustomed to the heat . They have no choice . But they ARE well accustomed to shit building work and they shrug - knowing anyone asked to fix it will be as bad .
    A fastidious Thai worker is a bit of a gem !


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dillinger View Post
    What I don't get is why you are always doing home improvements on that house you've built up, thats not lived in by you for a woman you are not even seeing.

    Is there a child involved here?

    Sorry if that's intrusive, I just don't get why you'd worry about cooling the sides of a house that you don't live in for a family of natives who are well accustomed to the heat

    Indeed. A more common, and seemingly contradictory, activity/lifestyle than you might suspect, Dills...

    One could simply ask - why...??


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    I put A/C in my handbags rental house and she thought I was a bit mad.

    Recons Thai don't need A/C. ???

    Fook me, it's in Bangkok and the coonta of a joint is an oven come March April and May.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wasp View Post
    I am NOT always making improvements . Mostly I am repairing shitty cousin lack-of-workmanship .
    First rule when building a house in Thailand. Never employ family.
    Quote Originally Posted by Wasp View Post
    And as soon as she heads off in the back of a pickup in the direction of Suvarnabhumi Airport the brother , cousins , neighbours grab the fans and either disperse them or sell them .
    Second rule. Build a wall around your house and don't let immediate family in without ringing the bell. And third lock the house and gates when you're away. Works for me.

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    What happened i thought you said this thread was finished.
    Anyway I'M BACK but I did leave my ball and ball behind so I can't play so i have to be serious, sorry!

    So in case you are still thinking about it in my opinion the best option would be a couple of 4m long roller blinds hung from the eaves and long enough to be tied off on the rail (wall X) and the floor (wall Y) of the balcony. The blinds could be rolled up at night so you could see out the window to check on Grandma or once the sun moves north of the roofline (probably around March).
    They can be secured to the eaves so they don't get stolen or sold. There would be sufficient "air gap" between them and the wall. I do not think they would be expensive and you would probably be able to get the seller to do the installation so you don't have to climb up to the eaves.

    I am sure Missy could ask around and find a supplier easy enough. I have seen people selling them drive past our place so they may or may not be available at a shop.

    Good luck with whatever you decide to do.

    I'm outta here!!!

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