Thread: Snowbird house build in LOS

Steel has arrived for the roof, once posts are poured I understand new crew will come to install roof.



Forms are in place and ready for cement.

Originally Posted by mikenot

I notice they did not close off the tops of the pipes before the pour, it's too late for this but it is a good precaution to cover the pipes to prevent any concrete being splashed into them and perhaps blocking them. Even just a plastic bag taped over the top would do.
I was reading an old build story a few days ago where somebody had to rip up the kitchen floor because the drain pipe was blocked .....with concrete.

Mike,
Had the daughter take a picture below bathroom, appears what they did is place pieces of pipe where they need to go in form, guessing they will remove pieces of pipe after forms are removed and use holes for pipe that will be installed later.

The beatings helped, here is a video link to first walk through of house.

https://youtu.be/ySaXjoiVOCM

^ Now you just have to train her to turn the camera and have horizontal video

Originally Posted by mikenot

^ Now you just have to train her to turn the camera and have horizontal video

Hi Mike, I might be walking on thin ice trying to tell a woman how to use her phone, I don't want to lose my camera person at this point.

As you seen in the video the forms are off





Posts are wrapped and waiting for the roofing crew, which I was told was happening this week

The roofing crew has arrived.



Roof steel laid out and getting some paint.


Needed to pick out the roof tiles, 2 week delivery time.

Originally Posted by David48atTD

Heck, they even had enclosed shoes on

Hi David, I'll bet that won't be part of our crews safety gear, lol

We just had a meeting last night about the reflective sheeting and he was complaining about installing it that way, because a different crew does the shingles versus the crew that is doing the steel rafters, he thinks the sheeting will be damaged by weather before they get the roof on. " Not our problem" that's the way it's going to get done. I was surprised that's what wife and daughter told him.

We also had a issue with the shingles we wanted, the one's we had picked were an extra cost, he said 30,000 baht, I said no way put on what was in the bid. By the time we finished with our meeting he cut that price in half to 15 t baht. So we went with the shingles (roof tiles) we wanted. I think the reason he cut the price that much is because these shingles can be delivered sooner. If the sheeting get damaged and he has to replace it, it would be a big expense for him.

More progress on the roof



I would have thought there would have been more bracing on the main steel, but I guess they don't have to worry about snow load like we do here.



Reflective sheeting going on and in the right place must help to have a video for training

The Thai's are very slow when it comes to insulation, I had a young man snigger and say, we dont use unsulation in Thailand.
Even the big building supply store's keep a very limited range, well that was the case 4 or 5 years ago.

Originally Posted by dennis4558

More progress on the roof

Looking good. Steel and foil looks ok. Forgot what roof tiles you are going to have? Assume many more steel slats to attach will be needed and installed on top of foil?

Will drop by next in Roi Et.

Originally Posted by Mozzbie47

The Thai's are very slow when it comes to insulation, I had a young man snigger and say, we dont use unsulation in Thailand.
Even the big building supply store's keep a very limited range, well that was the case 4 or 5 years ago.

Hi Mozzbie, I think you're right and when they do use it they put it on wrong. That's why we sent a video to the builder on how it is supposed to be installed.

[QUOTE=Norton;4017989]Looking good. Steel and foil looks ok. Forgot what roof tiles you are going to have? Assume many more steel slats to attach will be needed and installed on top of foil?

Thanks Norton, Here's that photo of the tiles.


Not really a good picture of finished roof but gives you some idea.

More progress on putting on the reflective foil.





It doesn't look like they've installed purlins on top of foil to hold it in place. Question, don't know where or how to space them or not there job, roofing crews job, but why put the foil on if you aren't going to hold it down.



I tried to get the daughter to go on top to get some pictures, you can guess what she told me.

Hi Dennis, thanks for the thread and write up very helpful as always to follow these. I had a question as to how they will finish the top of the columns to the steel roof beams? as currently it looks from the photos like they are connected only into the rebar out of the top of the column with a space- are they going to put another concrete form along to tie that in later? I’m no builder in Thailand (yet) but interested to see how that is done. Cheers

Originally Posted by dennis4558

Something, if you could explain for me.

To do with how the Roof joists/bearers are attached to the posts?





What I don't understand is why the rero (steel reinforcing) in the concrete upright posts is bearing the weight of the roof?

I've seen in other constructions and when we did our carport, that the rero protrudes through the concrete post, but the bearer sits on top of the concrete post (so that the weight of the structure above is carried by the post and not the rero) and the protruded rero is simply welded to the bearer.

As in when we built our carport ...



I'm sure there is a logical explanation.

Maybe Thai logic?

Good question Knows & David, I just posted the picture and asked the same question of our construction group on Line, we'll see what kind of answer we get.

Originally Posted by dennis4558

Good question Knows & David, I just posted the picture and asked the same question of our construction group on Line, we'll see what kind of answer we get.

This is the same question I wanted to ask as well. I think it probably came about because they didn't make the concrete in the pillars high enough, which could have been due to them not having long enough formwork or they just didn't fill the forms full.

Anyway the way I have seen this issue "fixed" is for them to come along later and add concrete to the top of the pillars by hand to fill the gap which then protects the steel from rusting.
While (in my opinion) this might look OK it isn't the best as the weight of the roof then is on "fresh" concrete. So the end result is your roof is virtually being held up by the steel in the pillar.

So if were me the main thing I would want them to do is fill in the concrete ASAP and preferably before anymore weight gets added to the roof. I didn't really make out whether your tiles were concrete type tiles but if they are then they weigh a lot.

As for the 'Thai" solution it will be " Farang think too much!"

Originally Posted by ootai

This is the same question I wanted to ask as well. I think it probably came about because they didn't make the concrete in the pillars high enough, which could have been due to them not having long enough formwork or they just didn't fill the forms full.

Anyway the way I have seen this issue "fixed" is for them to come along later and add concrete to the top of the pillars by hand to fill the gap which then protects the steel from rusting.
While (in my opinion) this might look OK it isn't the best as the weight of the roof then is on "fresh" concrete. So the end result is your roof is virtually being held up by the steel in the pillar.

So if were me the main thing I would want them to do is fill in the concrete ASAP and preferably before anymore weight gets added to the roof. I didn't really make out whether your tiles were concrete type tiles but if they are then they weigh a lot.

As for the 'Thai" solution it will be " Farang think too much!"

Yep Ootai, that's what they are going to do, filling with concrete today. Roof tiles still on order so concrete will have some time to cure before weight of roof tiles are put on.

Ootai, I had the wife read spec's on tiles, she said they weigh 5.1 kilo each, so that's alot of weight on the roof.

We finally got some activity on the site again.



Looks like the 10 cm block have arrived for the south and west walls.





Not sure what this is, I've asked but still haven't gotten a reply.