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    Thank you blowin. (If you have not yet seen it there is a Greenscaping thread as well if you are interested.) Short answer is our two level 260sqm home cost per sqm is in the vicinity of 12,500 baht. We have our builders detailed cost sheet and another sheet where we tracked every baht we've spent, from land purchase through to Malay Grass turf. If you are interested in more detailed information shoot me a DM and we'll do something offline. Regards, - BiP
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    Beautiful home I just read the full tread well done. Maybe I missed it do you mind me ask the cost per sqm please.

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    Home Stay Question

    BiP, is a "Home Stay" the same as what we call a "Bed & Breakfast" or B&B in the US?
    How is your business doing so far? Are you willing to share prices or costs on this site?
    Very interested - back channel or PM if necessary.
    Thanks,
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    Will do so Norton. What I'll do is just mention the name in the opening post. What I'd like to do is take folks through the challenges the wife and I have had in establishing such a business. While I'm sure many TD folks have established and run much larger and more complex businesses, this is something quite new for the wife and I and I think we've got some interesting insights to share. That includes as we learn more about the business, our guest wants/needs and our product through this first season. Regards, -BiP

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    Hi Amina, yes a homestay is basically the same as a B&B. Yesterday I created a new thread for it. Here is the link...

    https://teakdoor.com/northern-thailan...-province.html

    The first post provides details of how to access most of the information you are interested in. We opened on 1 August and will host our first two groups of paying guests tomorrow and Friday. Regards, -BiP

    Quote Originally Posted by Amina View Post
    BiP, is a "Home Stay" the same as what we call a "Bed & Breakfast" or B&B in the US?
    How is your business doing so far? Are you willing to share prices or costs on this site?
    Very interested - back channel or PM if necessary.
    Thanks,
    Amina

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    Hi BoganIP,
    Thank you so much for this marvelous contribution on house building. I have just (well, took me a couple of days) read your whole thread and I enjoyed it immensely. Just like reading a novel you can hardly put away untill you have finished it. I would love to see your house, which I fwwl I know so well due to your storytelling. My wife (and I) have a house 75 kms west of Udon Thani that she have had for 25 years. We have been together for 20 years and have remodelled it twice (living in Denmark most of the year while she is still working). In 1989 and 2018. My concern at the moment is rain water from the roof. There wasn't put up any gottars in 2018. You seem ok with letting rainwater splash down on your cement apron; looking at older houses around the village it seems it will miscolor the painted walls of the house pretty fast, woun't it?

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    Hi BoganIP,
    Thank you so much for this encredibly interesting thread. I have read it through this passed week like a book I could hardly put aside. Firstly it is so well ridden that you think you know both you and your place after having read it. It is so full of info, thoughts and facts about building a house and settling down.
    My thai wife and I live on our 20th year together partly in Denmark (she is still working) and 75 km west of Udon Thani. She built the house 25 years ago and we remodelled it in 1999 and 2017. You don't have any worries about the rainwater splashing down on your cement aprons and miscolour your walls? I intend to put up gutters soon even though it is only a 1-story house.
    Hope to see your wonderful place sometime.
    Jens

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    Celebrating one year in our new home today. Will post some pics of then and now in this and the Landscaping threads over the coming days. Homestay business just completed an amazing first six month high season. Now in the low season but bookings keep coming in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoganInParasite View Post
    Celebrating one year in our new home today. Will post some pics of then and now in this and the Landscaping threads over the coming days. Homestay business just completed an amazing first six month high season. Now in the low season but bookings keep coming in.
    Congrats to you both!

    My, how the time races past!

    Me? ...counting down to 30th March when I hang the work boots up for the last time, and start the next part of my journey.

    Your greenscape thread is really inspiring us for the garden work ahead - I cannot wait to get stuck into it!

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    That invitation for you and Joy to visit still stands TD. But wait until the wet season kicks in at least. Just to prove how insane we are we are thinking about building another property up here.
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    Congrats to you both!

    My, how the time races past!

    Me? ...counting down to 30th March when I hang the work boots up for the last time, and start the next part of my journey.

    Your greenscape thread is really inspiring us for the garden work ahead - I cannot wait to get stuck into it!

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    Congrats, BIP!!
    Sounds as you two are doing things right - slow and sure.

    Hospitality and related endeavors can be exasperating and burdened with fraught, yet rewarding in the long run.

    Best to ya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoganInParasite View Post
    That invitation for you and Joy to visit still stands TD. But wait until the wet season kicks in at least. Just to prove how insane we are we are thinking about building another property up here.
    We will be there as soon as I get settled permanently!!

    (and when you have a gap in your bookings!!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoganInParasite View Post
    ....... Going to paint a couple of large 'H' on the top of the carport, add some steps and collect landing fees. I've never actually seen a helicopter in the area but you know, build it and they will come. Regards, -BiP
    What A SUPERB idea !!!

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    Well I have just completed reading this comprehensive and nicely-illustrated story .
    Looked down at the Date and I realised it is exactly TWO years since you moved in .
    So --- 'Congratulations' on a fine Thread and " Happy Second Birthday " for your home !!!


    Regards Wasp

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    Sorry for the delay in responding Wasp, don't look at the thread much. Yeah have now been in the house for more than 25 months and we continue to be really happy with it. Still no real issues, in particular, nothing structural. A concrete path on the north east corner has settled 3-4 centimeters and cracked the steps down from the level 1 terrace. They will be rebuilt soon. Got sick of the dimmable light globes being expensive and unreliable so replaced everything with standard switches and new globes for about 1,500 baht (did a deal with the electrician who wanted to keep the dimmable switches). Going to start gradually repainting the whole interior of the house as an ongoing maintenance item. One of the sliding screen doors from the level 1 terrace into the dining room is stuffed and removed. That's what happens when two Labradors collectively weighing maybe 90kgs run full speed down the side of the house, onto the terrace and then into the dining room without actually checking that the screen door was open.

    Just this week the wife and I completed the installation of ceiling insulation in the roof space. A tricky job that I'm thinking of doing a separate thread about.

    Regards, BiP
    Quote Originally Posted by Wasp View Post
    Well I have just completed reading this comprehensive and nicely-illustrated story .
    Looked down at the Date and I realised it is exactly TWO years since you moved in .
    So --- 'Congratulations' on a fine Thread and " Happy Second Birthday " for your home !!!


    Regards Wasp

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    Well we've been in the house for 27 months now and no surprise but a small number of items need repairing. Top of the list and the biggest by far was a rebuild of the back steps off the level 1 terrace. The concrete path they sat on sunk about three centimeters due to being poured on top of inadequately packed soil around a seepage pit. We asked our original builder to recommend someone and they turned up on Monday late morning to look at the job. We already had purchased some more tiles and there was a pile of gravel and sand out the front of the yard from another job we are doing. They gave us a list of things to buy for the job and we got those in Pua and nearby Tha Wang Pha on Monday afternoon. The gent turned up at 8:00am on Tuesday to start.

    These photos show the dropped concrete path opposite the steps and the damage to the steps.

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    This was his progress two hours after arriving.
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    This was the job towards the end of the first day around 3:00pm.

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    End of the second day.

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    And job finished mid-morning of the third day. Total cost was 3,600 baht being labour of 2,500 baht and 1,100 baht for materials. Can't argue about value for money in Thailand. According to the wife the gent was interested in doing some other work for us. We are doing some value adding updates and repairs (refer the Greenscaping thread) ahead of listing the property for sale.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoganInParasite View Post
    We are doing some value adding updates and repairs (refer the Greenscaping thread) ahead of listing the property for sale.
    I remember seeing the amount of actual money you were making when the place was apparently doing really well, and thinking it was pretty...modest.

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    We're quite satisfied with the homestay financial returns cyrille as they are exceeding our goals. Post-COVID we expect to press on towards a surge of both revenue and net profitability. The reason for seeking to sell is there is extraordinary and it would seem to us irrational demand for quality tourist potential property in the local area. We expect to achieve a net price of at least 60% more than we have spent. We intend to lease it back for 12-18 months and while we are thinking about a range of options the most likely is we will build another homestay in the area and transfer the business to it during an off-season period. We've already identified the location. Regards, -BiP
    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    I remember seeing the amount of actual money you were making when the place was apparently doing really well, and thinking it was pretty...modest.

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    One thing for sure BIP, If you leave cement unprotected it gets black mold and degrades extremely fast around here and once water can seep and weeds can grow in the cracks it will split the cement.

    To your point, we have had quite a few people ask why we do not offer our place as homestay or rent it out for weddings. It seems to be a very lucrative niche business. I admire that you can open up your place to strangers.

    Good Luck on your new venture

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    We'll be sealing that JPPR2. In a couple of weeks when we have had the enhanced front fence rendered. And after a good clean. Regards, -BiP
    Quote Originally Posted by JPPR2 View Post
    One thing for sure BIP, If you leave cement unprotected it gets black mold and degrades extremely fast around here and once water can seep and weeds can grow in the cracks it will split the cement.

    To your point, we have had quite a few people ask why we do not offer our place as homestay or rent it out for weddings. It seems to be a very lucrative niche business. I admire that you can open up your place to strangers.

    Good Luck on your new venture

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