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    Thai's are not very smart,,, oh sorry, you already know that

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPPR2 View Post
    HFS!!!!!!!.

    And this is built by the "Famed PD". Man you are quite calm. Let me tell ya something my wife would be standing outside there door ready to go to battle..

    Sorry man.
    Yes the famous ''PD HOUSE'' have done that.....
    im not always that calm,try to be most of the time.....lucky the foreman doesnt understand any english.........

    there is a bit of progress.....as just for how long????you never know.......
    it doesnt help to be pissed off all the time.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mozzbie47 View Post
    Thai's are not very smart,,, oh sorry, you already know that
    the foreman isnt....and thats for sure.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonnyenglish View Post
    Wow, looks like a whole load of stress right there, enough to put anyone off building in LOS.

    Stating the obvious here, and repeating what others have said and what's already known, but to the benefit of others who are viewing this forum with plans to build their own place:

    1: Using a large company with an HQ based elsewhere can be problematic for single bespoke builds, these companies often base their business models on moo baan developments, which have different logistics to single builds.

    2: Large companies may seem to offer a range of benefits such as a proven track record of existing builds and qualified teams, however it seems that these companies hide behind layers of departments, where lack of accountability and poor communication become obvious when issues occur with the build. It's easier to pressure a single person than a company when you want things done.

    3: If you can't visit the site every day, then employ a full time site manager, or don't construct anything for the duration of being absent. Or don't build, just buy an existing house.

    4: If possible, employ very local small teams, as the potential 'loss of face' if things go wrong is a great motivator to get things right in LOS. Loss of face and accountability on a local level should never be underestimated here.

    5: Turn up to the site or offices with other people you know on tow.. accompanying children also help, as then you cease to be just a single person, or walking ATM machine, but a person who has contacts and are waiting for the job to be finished and done well. In Japan, people who want a pay rise or a change in their job in some way take along one of their kids, it implies that there are consequences and it's not just about the individual. It's a passive/aggressive approach which is unfamiliar to us in the West. The concept of 'consequences' here in LOS isn't easily absorbed, it has to be pointed out constantly (look at the state of the driving!).

    OK, enough with the negativity and hindsight, not much use to you right now showupman... on a positive note, you seem to be striking a nerve at HQ, at least they are now aware of the issue and who you are. The issues you are facing can all be fixed. To save your sanity though, I'd suggest not taking a snapshot of everything in one go. By dumping all the problems in one big pile, even the small fixable things will seem insurmountable. I'd suggest making a file for each of the issues, dated with description, photo, and if possible solution, as each problem is given attention, update the file with info and sign off when fixed, this way you'll see progress (even if it's slow and small!).

    Stay strong, controlled and level-headed... it's understandable that emotions creep in, but this doesn't help solve issues over in this part of the world much I'm afraid.

    Almost there, keep going!
    thanks for this post,tips and heads up.....and all the information for people who want to build a house in LOS.

    personally i think it all started to go really wrong when my mum passed away and we had to go overseas....and then it just didnt stop anymore.....
    as i said in earlier posts,i was always there and watched them,did my sparky stuff....

    so heads up,its gonna be all good on the end......the question is????when...LOL...

    lets see where they gonna be by the end of this month.....

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    what kind of work did i do since i was back in LOS???

    well it was great to have no one around,so i did the tiling in the kitchen......

    mmhh...lets do it ive never done any tiling before.....and i think i can do it at least as good as the foreman at the steps outdoors.....LOL....

    alright here we go....scratched all the paint off(yes i read that you dont have to do it, but i want to make sure) and started it....



    started it,the center is the hotplate....




    finished after 2days.....



    did let it dry a few days,than done the grouts..and taped it off for the silicon



    and all is done.....dont need PD HOUSE(dont want-would have to pay extra/not in the contract)kind of thing....

    and the quality,im quite happy with my work.....dont think PD could do it better...from my point of view.......

    ...and the sparky wasnt too bad either......

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    Nice kitchen show, enjoying your thread. Keep up the narrative. I hope everyone gets the idea not to use these builders, they design a beautiful home, just after many other threads about them they always seem to screw up a build. Much frustration but in the end the homes always end up great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FatOne View Post
    Nice kitchen show, enjoying your thread. Keep up the narrative. I hope everyone gets the idea not to use these builders, they design a beautiful home, just after many other threads about them they always seem to screw up a build. Much frustration but in the end the homes always end up great.
    Hey Fat One ... did you ever get to meet your friend in Ubon/Udon?

    Buy a car etc?

    Maybe update your thread, your story was quite interesting.

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    Hi David, updated my thread, buying a cheap second hand car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mozzbie47 View Post

    Thai's are not very smart,,, oh sorry, you already know that

    I'd argue the complete opposite.

    Thai are very smart, they fuk over Farang and their own on a regular basis and no one does anything about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FatOne View Post
    Nice kitchen show, enjoying your thread. Keep up the narrative. I hope everyone gets the idea not to use these builders, they design a beautiful home, just after many other threads about them they always seem to screw up a build. Much frustration but in the end the homes always end up great.
    thanks mate..... and you are 100%right.... well i think i have to make the best out of it......and im doing that as good as i can...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thedogsbollix View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mozzbie47 View Post

    Thai's are not very smart,,, oh sorry, you already know that

    I'd argue the complete opposite.

    Thai are very smart, they fuk over Farang and their own on a regular basis and no one does anything about it.
    thats a good one for sure....i give you a 100% for that as well...... ....but honest,our foreman is not the smartest..... i call it arrogant,naive and not willing to learn new stuff......i know his moves.....he cant hide stuff from me(he had done that-does it fore sure on other houses) ......he tried it so many times on the house and still is....... he forget things all the time......dementia with 35.........poor bloke

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    a lttle bit progress here and there

    ...after the phone call to HQ in BKK...it seeded....they came back the next day...started with the 2 rooms upstairs,fixing the ceiling and a painter"the man" came and started upstairs painting the doors..

    me in the meantime just put up 2 ceiling fans...one in the budda room,the other in my boys room......









    finally i got the wall lights from Australia too...i installed them in the bathrooms..







    they replaced some floor-tiles,done some patch up work....siliconed around the sinks and pissoir....

    apart from the big bath upstairs,which stuff needs to be mounted to the wall,soap holder,dunny-brush etc etc....the 1.floor is finished.....
    i could do it but im not making them a favor...no way mate...

    time will tell, i still think they wont make it until the end of this month.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by showupman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mozzbie47 View Post
    Thai's are not very smart,,, oh sorry, you already know that
    the foreman isnt....and thats for sure.....
    The F---ups with a project I was involved in a few years ago you would not believe,,,, but then again I guess you would.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mozzbie47 View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mozzbie47 View Post
    Thai's are not very smart,,, oh sorry, you already know that
    the foreman isnt....and thats for sure.....
    The F---ups with a project I was involved in a few years ago you would not believe,,,, but then again I guess you would.
    Adding to that, if I put my direction in they took no notice, sh-t for brains

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mozzbie47 View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mozzbie47 View Post
    Thai's are not very smart,,, oh sorry, you already know that
    the foreman isnt....and thats for sure.....
    The F---ups with a project I was involved in a few years ago you would not believe,,,, but then again I guess you would.
    Yet, all varied projects and situations are not the same.

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    I have those exact ceiling fans. Remote controlled & very powerful. On high its like a wind tunnel in the room. About 4k baht each I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mozzbie47 View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mozzbie47 View Post
    Thai's are not very smart,,, oh sorry, you already know that
    the foreman isnt....and thats for sure.....
    The F---ups with a project I was involved in a few years ago you would not believe,,,, but then again I guess you would.
    Adding to that, if I put my direction in they took no notice, sh-t for brains

    sounds very familiar....same here...they just looked at me as i would be someone from another planet....i know im farang and i may am.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by thaimeme View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mozzbie47 View Post
    Thai's are not very smart,,, oh sorry, you already know that
    the foreman isnt....and thats for sure.....
    The F---ups with a project I was involved in a few years ago you would not believe,,,, but then again I guess you would.
    Yet, all varied projects and situations are not the same.
    you are completely right...every project is different,you deal with different people

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slick View Post
    I have those exact ceiling fans. Remote controlled & very powerful. On high its like a wind tunnel in the room. About 4k baht each I think.

    they are good,tie down if they run on full....
    i think i payed about 3-3.5K at BITEC last year.....

    they are great,he delivered them and said he will mount them.....im not busy,so then im sure they (hopefully) wont fall down.......i will sleep certainly better.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by showupman
    so then im sure they (hopefully) wont fall down
    How did you mount them? Suspended from the roof steel or a wood doubler/backing behind the gyp rock?

    Ive done both & survived

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    I have ceiling fans in all rooms. I seldom ever have to turn on the AC. Nice look OP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slick View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by showupman
    so then im sure they (hopefully) wont fall down
    How did you mount them? Suspended from the roof steel or a wood doubler/backing behind the gyp rock?

    Ive done both & survived
    with 2 ticker,long screws....timber above the gyp rock....i have some pics on page 7- 170+172

    thats good to hear........

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPPR2 View Post
    I have ceiling fans in all rooms. I seldom ever have to turn on the AC. Nice look OP.
    im gonna have fans in all rooms too....fan on the ground floor without lights....i have LED down lights on the ground floor.

    good to hear,that u dont need AC a lot.....thanks mate

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    Quote Originally Posted by showupman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JPPR2 View Post
    I have ceiling fans in all rooms. I seldom ever have to turn on the AC. Nice look OP.
    im gonna have fans in all rooms too....fan on the ground floor without lights....i have LED down lights on the ground floor.

    good to hear,that u dont need AC a lot.....thanks mate
    I am not much familiar with the ceiling fans. I rather withstand the heat than having an air blown against me.

    Question: Isn't the hot air sitting under the ceiling blown down? Instead of rather keeping it (the hot air) at the ceiling undisturbed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by JPPR2 View Post
    I have ceiling fans in all rooms. I seldom ever have to turn on the AC. Nice look OP.
    im gonna have fans in all rooms too....fan on the ground floor without lights....i have LED down lights on the ground floor.

    good to hear,that u dont need AC a lot.....thanks mate
    I am not much familiar with the ceiling fans. I rather withstand the heat than having an air blown against me.

    Question: Isn't the hot air sitting under the ceiling blown down? Instead of rather keeping it (the hot air) at the ceiling undisturbed?
    Always get reversible fans. They are the best. Can change air flow. If your home as descent attic ventilation most heat would not settle at roof area. Keep a window open and it should dissipate. I typically run the fan in reverse during the day and on low at night. IMHO opinion far more comfortable then the floor oscillating fans. They are noisy.

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