Thread: UPVC Windows

Originally Posted by Airportwo

City, Udon Thani, contact Khun Oak 0616263246, company is called "Standard"
Your welcome to look at my windows if you are in the Udon Thani area.

Thanks very much for that, I guessed Udon but wasn't sure.

I'll give Khun Oak a ring tomorrow (Monday).

Do you know if he speaks English (not a problem , but it may be easier over technical things) and what the make of the windows was?

Thanks again.

Originally Posted by Kurgen

Originally Posted by JohnG

At 900,000 baht

Fuck me, do you live in Windsor Castle?

As I said, it adds about 25% to the basic cost of the build; I know that may be unusually high for windows and doors but most houses don't have windows up to 2.40m high or 4.40m wide - or the views that we have which make it worthwhile.

The living area is also not air-conditioned as it would need at least a 60,000 btu unit and I prefer fans and fresh air, so we need big windows for ventilation in the day.

Originally Posted by Kurgen

I've used Euro PVC in Pattaya on 2 properties and I'm more than happy with them.

Euro PVC are the only company I haven't heard from yet, despite e-mailing them nearly a week ago and then contacting them via their website. The others all took between one hour (!) and two days to reply.

Sunparadise does great quality on aluminum window...

They have a production facility near Bangkok, Phuket is major market for years.

Would be interesting to know price difference with plastic version, but Sunparadise is real high end, quality stuff not the extra thin aluminum most Thai provide.

^^ Oak speaks good English.

You say you want big windows for airflow and ventilation? at this time of year you would be letting 40c plus heat into the house, I installed double glazed UPVC windows to help keep the cool in and the heat outside. It was 35c at 09:00 this am, if you were to keep windows open all day you would be heating the house up all day, fans would make it feel a bit cooler but it would be for me unbearably hot.

We had the window people (Standard-plus) come out this morning to adjust a couple of windows and one door, they do stand by their product as they have been installed over a year.
Our main living area is a bit bigger than what you have with 3m ceilings, we have one 12,000btu air-con set on 28c running all day and it keeps the area at a very livable temperature, house is well insulated and sure the windows help. If I was to get an air-con sized for this area doubtless they would tell me I need 60k btu plus.
Good luck with the windows.

......excellent thread, very helpful . Thanks for that.

Thought it was only fair to keep the quotations / correspondence up to date:


Euro PVC, Pattaya. No response after one week, despite a reminder. Hardly a good sign, particularly as posters elsewhere had a similar lack of response /service recently.


Hoffen, Bangkok. The cheapest, by a considerable margin. Not particularly good reports on forums, and a little wary of only a 90 day guarantee. (quote: 568k).


Windsor, Udon. Windsor windows are fitted by PD House and seem the basic 'standard' in Thailand. Big company. Also an agent / supplier in Khon Kaen I haven't been to yet. (quote: 742k, but apparently not including mosquito screens which would make them considerably more expensive. Waiting for confirmation.).


Deku, Pattaya. Similar price to Windsor. Mixed reviews. (quote: 750k).


ARC (Veka), Pattaya. Mixed reviews, mainly over 'attitude' some customers didn't appreciate. (quote: 845k).


Trade UPVC, Pattaya: Good reviews, good follow-up / interest, expensive. (quote: 930k).


Hevta, Samutsongkram: No information, expensive. (quote: 930k).

Do any of the windows you've been quoted for have UV protection in their glazing? I'm not sure about Hoffen but they come with a greenish tinge to the glass. May be worth finding out?

JohnG this forum gives some good advice on windows. I didn't know a German firm from Pattaya fitted out the royal palace in Hau Hin with UPVC windows.

coolthaihouse.com ? View topic - PVC Windows and Doors

If you're not fed up with advice JohnG then this guy wrote some good info.

A breif explination of pvc

Pvc / Vinyl window systems are available now all over Thailand .

The actaul pvc is only part of the overall finished product. All fabricators will import this from various extrusion companies ( the "brand" name you may associate pvc with , i.e Veka , Thyssen , Kommerling etc.).

The quality of these extrusions varies dramatically from company and profile . The main agent for giving Pvc its colour is Titanium dioxide and its the content of this within the profile wich will dictate if the pvc will discolour in time or not. When new they will all look exactly the same but i assure you there actual make up is not. This alone will dictate if the product will discolour in time or not. You should check the small print on the suppliers warranty some exclude the colour or give it a limited warranty others give a full 10 year warranty on colour.

It is interesting to note that people refer to the windows either by brand name or by individual fabricator and state their pros and cons to both. When infact the same fabricator may well be supplying two or even three different brand name profiles in the market place.

You really should remeber that when choosing a window supplier the pvc as stated above is only a Component of the finished system . Other questions should be asked also , Is the profile re-inforced ( is it galvanised steel ? what is the thickness of this ) ( a simple test to see if re-inforcemnt is being used is to run a magnet over the profile ) what hardware is used ( is it european , chinese ? , you Will find alot of suppliers offering "German" pvc windows and use chinese hardware and fittings to reduce costs).
This also extends to the locking systems used , are they full multi -point , simple finger locks , self cliping , brass , steel , stainless ?
As with all window systems as I stated before unless it is installed correctly you will reduce its benefits drastically. If you have made you decision as to wich supplier to use I highly recommend you visit previous installations and not just the ones they take you too but others they don't tell you about afterall if there taking you to see an existing customer they wouldn't take you to an unhappy one would they ?

General pricing for pvc per square meter is actually quite difficult as it depends on design , size , glass spec , hardware etc . etc. some companies will give an indication but would generally base this on a "typical design and size" and probably wont be what your after. That said an indication for a "standard" home replacement in single glass will range from around 2,500Thb to 5,000Thb per square meter depending on the quality your after and the options used.


A few advantages of pvc

Pvc during fabrication uses a friction weld on its corners rather than in aluminium where a "mechanical" joint is used so is much less exposed to water leakage
Sea salt air has no affect on Pvc as Aluminium will oxidise / corrode if scratched or exposed
The use of double / triple glazing is a standard option for pvc
It is the "greenest" option for windows for the envoiroment and is 100 % recyclable
Pvc is a very poor conductor of heat , the transmission of heat to the interior is considerably less than aluminium
It can be used for virtually any window design including arch and circular designs
The lifetime of a pvc window based on data from Euope is 40 years
Termites and such creatures do not attack pvc as they will in wooden subframes sometimes used by aluminium window systems
The use of Galvanised steel for structual strength
Full Multipoint lock options give higher spec security over standard aluminium frames

Pvc Windows In Pattaya - DIY housing forum - Thailand Forum

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

Do any of the windows you've been quoted for have UV protection in their glazing? I'm not sure about Hoffen but they come with a greenish tinge to the glass. May be worth finding out?

Most of the tints give (or at least claim) "40% UV protection".

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

If you're not fed up with advice JohnG then this guy wrote some good info.

Happy with any and all advice, from all comers!

Originally Posted by JohnG

Thought it was only fair to keep the quotations / correspondence up to date:
.....

Windsor, Udon. Windsor windows are fitted by PD House and seem the basic 'standard' in Thailand. Big company. Also an agent / supplier in Khon Kaen I haven't been to yet. (quote: 742k, but apparently not including mosquito screens which would make them considerably more expensive. Waiting for confirmation.)....

The Udon agent has quoted 60k for mosquito screens, bringing the price to 800k, but despite a good start and a visit to the house they seem incapable of answering simple e-mailed questions in English or Thai, or giving a confirmed quotation in either / any language which is hardly confidence-inspiring. Khon Kaen may be better ... (on present performance they could hardly be worse!) ...

Can anyone tell me roughly how much a sq meter double glazing costs here? I realise single v multi lock and what glass you have and the handles all come into it, but some idea. I have emailed a few companies in the past but never had one reply.

It's the amount of openers in a window that whacks the price up, next would be double/single glazed.

one opener double glazed