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    Quote Originally Posted by piwanoi View Post
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    If a random guy with a scrapmof paper can issue the house book....so be it then
    The house book or tambien ban now means absolutely nothing, ask your local Immigration officer .
    Indeed.
    Has just become an extra layer of bureaucratic documentation.
    Occasionally handy concerning some officialdom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nawtier View Post
    If a random guy with a scrapmof paper can issue the house book....so be it then
    Yeh, that's why our house book address is in a rubber shed, no house.
    2 different things and depending on where you live, probably 2 different departments.

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    You need it to get many things and did back then.....did not need it for immigration...its a thai thingy

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    Point is....you can get your building permit after it is built if you want......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nawtier View Post
    Point is....you can get your building permit after it is built if you want......
    Here's the rules, no permit no building.

    Obtaining a Building License in Thailand

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nawtier
    Point is....you can get your building permit after it is built if you want
    That's open to questions. My ex cleaner couldn't get planning permission before having her house(?) built because it didn't show a toilet. So god knows how she could get the permit after?

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    Well, you're talking close to 6000 square miles with those three provinces, maybe you need to narrow your area down a bit before asking "how long a piece of string is in thailand" or "how many thais it takes to cut a piece of string".

    Seeing as you have a thai wife, why not have her google around in thai? I know it's crazy but I've found most things can be found out here IF you google in thai. <-just sayin' is all

    Conversely have your wife put the word out you're looking for land in some one buffalo village up in Nakhon Nowhere and thai people will come out of the woodwork with deals too good to pass up.

    I was asking for basic ranges for land cost, materials and labor, all of which I have a fair idea what is reasonable.
    I too wonder, if you have a fair idea what's reasonable, why are you askin'?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
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    What's your definition of 'freehold'. Basically it's either Sor Por Kor or Chanote. Chanote is all singing and dancing title and the best way to go IMO. With Sor Por Kor land you don't own the land you just have a right to farm it. Failing to farm it can result in the Crown taking it back. May be the reason why Thais farm land and don't earn an income from it? They're just biding their time in the hope it becomes Chanote. Jusy my take on it.
    Quite clearly freehold land is land that comes with a chanote. I used the word freehold as I wanted to be informative rather than to dazzle people with my knowledge of Thai bureaucratic minutiae.

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    Haha....must have been all a dream then......rules..must follow the rules, no deviation whatsoever. ...nope

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    How about a real price ?

    A cleared plot in a busy village. Right on a sealed bitumen road and 30 metres from a minimart .
    100 metres from buses to Big C . Power . Water . Legal to build on .

    The plot is 0.4 rai and he's refusing offers of 400 000 as he is hanging out for 450 000.

    Then again not far away ...... a strip along a riverfront . 0.3 rai . 60 000 Baht .
    Undoubtedly illegal to build on it but at 60 000 you could afford a fishing/reading/solitariness mancave and enjoy it for a long time before you MIGHT have to take it down.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Wasp
    0.3 rai . 60 000 Baht
    Slaps and Stoker could clear that patch in a long weekend, and have the shed up and ready to go by the middle of the next week...

    So, prices are higher than I thought which were 2-3 times what the OP suggested. Not so cheap Thailand nowadays...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Wasp
    0.3 rai . 60 000 Baht
    Slaps and Stoker could clear that patch in a long weekend, and have the shed up and ready to go by the middle of the next week...

    So, prices are higher than I thought which were 2-3 times what the OP suggested. Not so cheap Thailand nowadays...
    Hi Betty . It's worth bearing in mind that we were looking elsewhere at a large piece of land and somebody told somebody .
    So clearly we looked a good prospect and must have funds.
    Which made them approach us with the riverfront strip for 60 000.

    Perhaps if we had shown less interest - and if I was Thai - it might have been more like 40 000.
    Which is still a rate of 135 000 for one rai of fairly useless ( but very pretty ) waterfront land.


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    ^ yeah, as we all know, it's just easier to stay well clear and let the Thais sort it out. I didn't set foot in a government office and very rarely on the land (3 times in about 10 years?) until the house was built, so the costs were, I think..., relatively local Thai rates.

    135,000 isn't a lot for a nice bit of land if you consider it a month's wages or so? Blimey, Thailand is cheap! (not apples with apples as I'm thinking a month's wages in Oman to buy land in Thailand - was about 3 months wages in Thailand; crap wages for me there...)
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    Different numbers Betts .
    In all my working life --- after taxes and other deductions --- I never cleared much above 50 000 Baht .

    But yes .... even 60 000 for unbuildable riverfront seems cheap .

    The river is lovely . I used to jump in there all the time .
    The Thais didn't .
    Nobody told me about river snakes !!!!


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    ^ you'll be alright, looks harmless to me!


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    100/150k is quite cheap, dependind where and what obviously.......we paid 500k several years ago for a very nice block

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    only in thai,maybe it help!
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    ^ good link; the missus bought a couple of apartments off one of those bank sites, and the prices were so cheap that the land office wouldn't accept changing the documents into her name without a special letter from the bank saying it was all kosher!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1960apache View Post
    how do most people find land other than the internet
    Land for sale is often advertised with a large sign by the road. Also look for empty land near new house builds. The land might be available to buy. Ask someone living nearby.

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    Neverna is correct, there are usually signs saying ขายที่ดิน (Land for sale) plastered up on land you drive past. Often times it's at the closest store posted on a light pole or something. Some say มีโฉนด (have land title).

    Via the internet this is how you find land for sale;
    ขายที่ดินสระแก้ว <- Land for Sale Sa Kaeo, plug the thai into Google

    This was the first hit returned;
    DD Property Sa Kaeo

    Or use this site; Teedin108 Dot Com
    have you wife put the parameters in.

    I don't know anything about those sites but they return a fair number of hits per search.

    As a rule I'd stay off the sites in english.. Here in Bangkok I've found apartments on english language sites and the exact same listing on a thai language site with totally different prices for the same apartment. The foreign price and the thai price.

    Good Luck..

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    Just let it be known, in the area where you wish to settle, that a farang wishes to purchase some land and stand back. Always someone selling land and always a local agent looking for buyers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    Just let it be known, in the area where you wish to settle, that a farang wishes to purchase some land and stand back. Always someone selling land and always a local agent looking for buyers.
    That works even better....
    Yet, chances are Farang will be paying a premium price for [any] property that wasn't set before - or, sometimes not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    Just let it be known, in the area where you wish to settle, that a farang wishes to purchase some land and stand back. Always someone selling land and always a local agent looking for buyers.
    Do you mean stand back and be asked double the price what a Thai is expected to pay ? dunno maybe its just the simple fact I have been living here for too long who knows

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    Quote Originally Posted by piwanoi
    Do you mean stand back and be asked double the price what a Thai is expected to pay ?
    They will try it on for sure but one needs to have contact other farangs locally who should know. But there again, maybe they got shafted too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by piwanoi View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    Just let it be known, in the area where you wish to settle, that a farang wishes to purchase some land and stand back. Always someone selling land and always a local agent looking for buyers.
    Do you mean stand back and be asked double the price what a Thai is expected to pay ? dunno maybe its just the simple fact I have been living here for too long who knows
    Sure. Expected.

    Whatever the market will bear.
    Just the way it is.

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