Stop, stop, my head is swelling! Seriously, every one is different and we have all built different houses. You told a great tale, don't have any doubts now.Originally Posted by Roobarb
Stop, stop, my head is swelling! Seriously, every one is different and we have all built different houses. You told a great tale, don't have any doubts now.Originally Posted by Roobarb
Sorry, what I'd written was a little unclear. I'm leaving India in March instead of later in the year, and will head back to Thailand to finish the house (or at least fiddle around with stuff).Originally Posted by Wasp
No idea what this means, but I liked Splitlid's place and it sounds a good complimentOriginally Posted by Wasp
Yes ..... it's a compliment .
I was saying that if you look at your build and splitlid's you can see right away that it's a man that had the major influence .
Splitlid's is so minimal and clean and clear . You don't imagine a Welsh dresser going in there or any chintz . Just pure lines . No nick-nacks on window ledges.
And yours ..... wide , open , things going on , not designed around a kitchen and then spreading out from that.
In fact the kitchen seems like an afterthought that's been tacked on . Upstairs you put in a ladder to a mezz and then think " Hmm ... I could get a little study in there " .
When I saw that door with the offset pivots I thought immediately it would appeal to you - but of course it's even more appropriate for splilid's.
Both are very clearly manly in origin .
Wasp
Last edited by Wasp; 07-02-2014 at 04:15 PM.
Ah yes, fair point Wasp. The place was basically designed around a rather good place to sit and drink beer. The terrace and the first floor balcony formed the starting point.Originally Posted by Wasp
Most of the rest of the house is only there because women seem to expect a place to live with things like kitchens, bathrooms and the like so, as you have suggested, they are all afterthoughts.
Mezzanine's and stuff were a development allowing the opportunity to escape the trappings of domesticity should the primary beer-drinking areas ever become overrun.
Custer's last stand sort of thing...
R :The place was basically designed around a rather good place to sit and drink beer.
This is what I mean . An EXCELLENT attitude . I'm sure we all approve .
R : Most of the rest of the house is only there because women seem to expect a place to live with things like kitchens, bathrooms and the like so.
Perfect priorities.
R : ... allowing the opportunity to escape domesticity should the primary beer-drinking areas ever become overrun.
An honest and pinpoint way to approach things .
R : Custer's last stand sort of thing...
We're right behind you !!!!
Last edited by Wasp; 07-02-2014 at 09:07 PM.
You'se very quiet Roobs .
We pretty much stopped work at the house at the end of December Wasp. The aim is to pick it up again when we return to there at the end of next month.
Besides that things have been a little busy as we plan our withdrawal from here. The natives have been awfully restive of late.
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You know ... I actually feel a bit fawnish to be complimenting that house of yours yet again . But I think it looks just excellent .
You've had an attitude a bit like Betty's all along ... a sort of throwaway " it is what it is " manner .
But I look at the Sketchup drawing and then look at the house and it's just a lovely-looking home really . And not even your main house !
While I'm writing this I had an odd realisation Roobs ..... that there always seems to be one ant in the drink .
Your ladder . Koman's Frankenkirchen . My Romans . Bettyboo's oddly placed column .
And very close to the casually constructed Sketchup .
( Then again ... maybe you've got 2 ants in your drink with those blue pipes . )
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Wasp
...... and Roobarb - on the tiny chance that you don't know what's going on here ......
This is what's going on here and has been going on for 6 weeks now !
Last night was the worst .
W.
Feel very sorry for all my friends in the UK, hope you all survive the floods. Maybe escape to Thailand?
Roobarb ...
It's handy you're about because I want to ask you .
You got me started on that Sketchup and I'm getting quite decent at it now . But I see there are others .
I started a little bit using SWEET HOME 3D but it's not inspiring me .
I don't know whether or not to persist with it .
Have you used any others that you like ? How about Sweet Home 3D ?
Or anything at all you might have found likeable .... or better in maybe a different way from Sketchup ?
Wasp
Wasp!
Whaddayamean I'm about?
This tale was quietly and gently slipping away into oblivion, and with it my sense of guilt at not updating the thread was gently dissipating.
Now you've thrust it into the limelight again, with my faineance there for all to see.
Come on, admit it, you did this on purpose didn't you?
I suppose I'll have to go and take some more photos to update the damn thing. You complete and utter bastard...
To your question - although I suspect you already know the answer - I've only ever used Sketchup as it does by and large what I want it to do, it's simple enough for me to use and it's also free. There could well be better software out there, but I'm a creature of habit.
I did flirt for a time with floorplanner, or at least I think it was called that, which did much better, um, floor plans than Sketchup, but ultimately Sketchup works well enough for me.
Yes.
Yes I'll confess under your pressure that dragging your sorry tail ..... err I mean tale .... back to the top of the cesspit was a bonus .
Might even produce some up-to-date shots of Chateau Rhubarbe .
But it was also a proper enquiry .
Because I'm getting interested in doing the interiors of some of my Sketchups and when I go inside some pretty nifty-looking pieces of construction I'm finding all sorts of weirdness .
Offsets that look good on the outside but which penetrate 4 feet inside .
And no room to turn around .
That Sweet Home thing concentrates on interiors .... " so perhaps Rooby has found a more advanced set of Programmes by now " me thinkest to myself .
Acchh well .
And look !!!!!! You're dragged into the spotlight yet again!!
Best Wishes.
Wasp
^ fairy nuff Wasp old man, can't really argue with any of that.
Offsets in Sketchup do sometimes produce some weird results and I've never really taken the time to figure out why. I tend to just delete the offending piece and either draw it manually or try again doing it again keeping my fingers crossed/stroke a lucky rabbit's foot etc.
I've tried that .......... erasing some ridiculous line ..... only to find when I eliminate a TINY TINY 3 pixel line I pull back and the whole roof has disappeared !
And I've copied a whole window and Pasted it only to find that the " Copy" function goes right through the building and has copied the front door .
Or deleted it . Or its floating in midair .
I construct something and I'm always running around the whole thing to find if anything different has been evaporated .
So I'm reluctant to erase anything at all .
W.
There's a lot to be said for old technology. You know, things like rulers, protractors, pencils and things like that. If you mess up; an eraser (many pencils have them attached) can take care of it without deleting the roof, doors, or anything else that you don't want to delete.....
I made up my original sketches and plans with such devises, in a matter of hours.
The guy who used all the computer stuff spent days on it; probably because things would keep disappearing when he needed to erase a line here and there. In the end he did produce better looking plans than mine, but they cost a lot more....
PS I also keep candles and oil lamps around, for those times when the hi-tech power system fails...which it does several times a year. My oil lamps and candles have never failed to perform as expected....
Down with computers....bring back pencils......
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"Bring back pencils"
Dont forget satchels a pencil collection is nothing if its not kept in a nice satchel.
Yes Mr. O .
I do agree with you . Totally . However once you've drawn it in a programme like Sketchup you can tip the drawing up at a different angle and that would need a whole new drawing if you used a pencil .
Or zoom in and out . Spin around . Change the colours with a click .Construct one feature and then just Double Click to repeat it .
The programme is excellent really and it's free . Some advances are actually quite good.
Wasp
Talking about pencils "If the #2 pencil is the most popular, why is it still #2"?
Now, where are those kitchen aspect and cabinet pics (is the back door still 2 foot 6 high?)...Originally Posted by Roobarb
Gosh, hello Betty. Not seen you for a while. Good to have you back.
Yes yes, Sketchup does what I want it to do, my bloody builder however does what he wants to do. The results have not always been in full alignment.
We now have a kitchen door that is 2 metres high. Well, nearly 2 metres high, they buggered it up the second time around too so had to shave a few cms off the new door I'd bought them. Anyway I no longer risk braining myself each time I use the kitchen door which is a happy thing.
The kitchen cabinets are still on the stumpy side. I'm working on a solution for sometime in the future but for now my simple and cheap fix is to just avoid spending much time in that particular part of the house
Well, if you go for a number 1 then it's just a quick, perfunctory sort of thing you do out of necessity.
A decent number 2 though can be extraordinarily satisfying in the correct environment. After breakfast, a quiet part of the house, decent crossword for instance. It brings quality to life.
Probably the same with pencils.
Come on Roo, stop procrastinating, where are the photos?
^ of the pencils or, err?
Update on how your home is looking -- after following your thread for so long, I wanna know how it all comes out. Garden, furniture etc etc
and pencils if you must!
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