Off we go ! Our little home construction in deep Issan

Yes I know all about that now Ralph, that picture just above is a prime example, I had spent ages stripping and sanding and cleaning those 3 lovely tree trunks supporting the balcony roof, , came back from Udon with more tiles at 9am yesterday and the goons had all ready managed to plaster tile cement over all 3 of them posts, PLUS just to balance the other side handprints all on the nice new yellow paint round the entrance door.

I'm afraid at that point having been travelling since 5.30 am to get the tiles so as not to hold them up and being starving hungry, I'm afraid I did release a rather large blast of Anglo Saxon in they're direction.

Today they have one last opportunity to see how much grout and render they can coat everything in before leaving the site.

I have never known such animals, I'm sorry but that's how it gets you, it's YOUR HOME but they treat it like the sheds they live in.

The guy who done the coving thought he would do us a favour, I was sitting eating my breakfast in the MIL, S kitchen away from the house I looked over and saw clouds of dust coming out the front door, I thought wtf ran over, , the goons taken the nail gun off his airline and is blowing clouds of dust off the floor onto all our clean freshly painted walls to give it that " authentic thai " look.

Not wanting to say "I told you so", but I told you so. If a marriage can survive a house build, IMO is strong. Because 9 out of 10 times a Thai will side with a Thai. The face thing. "Oh, that's the way it's done here", "That looks okay", "that's Thai style" or "it doesn't matter". I heard those excuses so often, my blood pressure was crazy during the build.

Thai's do have a certain casual approach to this sort of thing don't they. If you can ever find them with a decent bit of foreign experience and catch them before they have been re-infected with Thainess....you might get some better results.

My people do pretty good work for the most part but they do have a habit of throwing crap all over the place. The road is littered with plastic bags for a Km in both directions.... and we caught them dumping stuff over the wall into our neighbours land....several times. They are more responsive to being yelled at than most Thai's but there are still days when you really want to take the whole lot out into the trees and just shoot them, or something....:rofl:

Well things certainly have come to a head today and both my missus and the FIL have seen a side of me they didn't think existed.

My fil being a typical thai unless he is eating or sleeping is bored shirtless, so he has taken it upon himself now the place is built, to go round raking leaves into piles all around the build so he can fill it full of smoke everyday.

I had asked the wife 2 weeks ago to kindly ask him to refrain from doing this as it was really beginning to piss me off in there painting choking on smoke, billowing in from both sides of the building.

Anyway with the smoke and the fumes from the door stain things sure just came to a head.

On top of that Pinky and Perky doing the balcony have managed to re cake the trunks in grout, then when Perky was ready to render the small wall under the balcony, he wetted it first, so far so good, however on closer inspection had thrown water all over the grout Pinky had just put in.

So now it's being re grouted

Don't you just love them!

PINKY & PERKY - YouTube

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Originally Posted by nigelandjan

don't worry you got all this to come yet

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Nope. I don't do mumbo jumbo.

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Your going out on a limb there mate, , you will neither live to be 400 or win the Thai lottery:ourrules:

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Originally Posted by koman

and we caught them dumping stuff over the wall into our neighbours land....several times.

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That's not good. Why would people do that? What goes on in their pathetic little egocentric minds (my guess is: not much...)?

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Originally Posted by nigelandjan

things sure just came to a head

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Deep breaths, Nige. It's just not worth it... I can fully understand your point, and very few, if any, folks can put up with their idiocy day in and day out. Count to 10 and think of something lovely like Monica Bellucci's breasts.

You're nearly there!

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Originally Posted by Bettyboo

Count to 10 and think of something lovely like Monica Bellucci's breasts.

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Or take solace in Betty's unsupervised build:)

Yes, good point Dill, I think poor ol Bettys gonna feel it sooner or later, even from a distance.

One day the wife will send some beautifull pics over and he'll think he's cracked it, , and in the next set of pictures when the Thais have done there " well We thought you would like it done that way " stunt, he will realise no matter the distance the trauma will arrive.

I'm getting close to the couldn't care anymore stage.

Just been informed the " lucky day for moving in has now been put further back "

Ahhh, is it some monk who is deciding this lucky day ?

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Originally Posted by nigelandjan

Just been informed the " lucky day for moving in has now been put further back "

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Just move in when it's done and tell them all to get fucked.

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Just been informed the " lucky day for moving in has now been put further back "

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Just move in when it's done and tell them all to get fucked.

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Move in on your schedule not hers/theres. When they help pay the bills, they might have a say so. You've got electric, water and the floors are tiled. Fuckum.

Yeah I know that's the way I'm feeling believe me I'd love to get out this 8 by 7 box, but the MIL is organising all the monks and old fogeys coming round.

Also I'm in deep shit with everyone here now after I blew up at the old Mann today for smoking me out.

Hahahaha. Love it

^^They're right Nige.

Put your foot down early - otherwise you'll waste more time and money.

I know they are Nasty piece, problem is I can't lug a queen size bed from this house ta other one all on my own.

There are logistics involved here.

I might pack me case and piss off and visit some old friends :rolleyes: until the smokes died down a bit

You upset the FiL, maybe even, God forbid, made him or your missus lose face... :(

Make yourself feel better, Nige, get across to Roobarb's thread - there's some fun to be had! :)

I'm sure everything will turn out OK.

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Originally Posted by Albert Shagnastier

Put your foot down early - otherwise you'll waste more time and money.

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Too late for Nige, I'm afraid. They know he's a nice guy, so they will continue to trample over him.

I basically blanked my outlaws for the first 2 years and took no shit from them at all. Now they don't fuck with me or the Midget and do as they're bloody well told.

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I know they are Nasty piece, problem is I can't lug a queen size bed from this house ta other one all on my own.

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I'll give you hand with it on Sunday if you want. No probs.

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Yeah I know that's the way I'm feeling believe me I'd love to get out this 8 by 7 box, but the MIL is organising all the monks and old fogeys coming round.

Also I'm in deep shit with everyone here now after I blew up at the old Mann today for smoking me out.

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Does it really matter if the family is pissed? It sure as hell wouldn't to me. They'll get over it. YOU AND JAN are the ones that paid to have it built. The monks (sic) and the old fogies would have to come around during my schedule. Sometimes being a nice, respectful guy opens the door for a Thai, any Thai to use you for a door mat. Grow a set and tell them to fuck off ninge. Do what you want to do. The old saying, "I pay so I say" comes to mind.
Personally I would pick shit with the chickens before I would do what someone else wants me to do, including Kak. Of course I stay in the dog house a lot, but honestly, I've grown to feel very comfortable there. At least it's peaceful.

I'd patch it up with the f.i.l,. He was trying to help by the sound of it..Either that or find a hotel until the date is right to move in. Bound to be stressful being around them all the time, plus trying to supervise a gang of fukwits building your house.

Think yourself lucky that you have built a nice small place. At least you have only had to endure for a relatively short period. We were about 2 years building our place, almost finished our 14 year marriage! Their stupidity knows no bounds, our place was nearing completion and we bought some light fittings for 3 rooms. 6 fittings for the open lounge/ dining area, 2 for the upstairs lounge and 1 for the wife's monk room. Before I left for work I put the fittings in each area/room. When I returned after a month I found the fuckwits had mixed the fittings, 5+1 in the lounge/diner. 1+1 in the upstairs lounge........fook me!

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Originally Posted by nigelandjan

I know they are Nasty piece, problem is I can't lug a queen size bed from this house ta other one all on my own.

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I'll give you hand with it on Sunday if you want. No probs.

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Cheers mate I'm sure you would, but that's gonna cause a big problem with me and the missus.

I know a lot of you are right, problem is I have taken a non confrontational approach I suppose not to upset the wife with them.
Our case is slightly different though cause I really feel for her stuck in the UK with me at times, she's a long way from her family and it's a lot to ask of her.

Dills right also, the old man was in his eyes helping, the culture is very different, he won't know we don't want to fill our shed with smoke to help alleviate the stink of the shit tank.

Cause we don't have that problem.

If any of you ever meet Andy the guy who built this, please ask him about my FIL, Andy stayed here on site with us for the build, he'll tell you what a character he is to deal with.

The day before I bought and fitted a nice mirror, shelf and towel rail in his bathroom for him, never even said thanks, we also earlier bought a hot electric shower for him cause it's been so cold, so he fills up a tub from the shower then throws it over himself with a pot.
BTW never said thanks for that either.

To be fair to the guy he let's me use his pickup when I want, but then again, we just taxed, insured it for him.

We are very different cultures.

Ok I forgot to add today is my younger brothers birthday, it's also the day when this build is 100% complete and finished.

The small balcony wall will be painted and I will be putting one final coat of wood stain on the front door.

Then I shall be down on my poor old knees again scrubbing the floors one last time ( as I was till 7pmllast night )

Then I shall hang the curtains on the rails I've already put up then I'll try and take some final pics for you.


I hope to spend the weekend relaxing painting ( the pleasurable kind ) then a visa run Monday, then hopefully out of here for some touring round to visit friends and relax.

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Originally Posted by nigelandjan

that's gonna cause a big problem with me and the missus.

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No, cause you will indulge her

I almost spoilt everything once when at the finish line

Listen to her

Boy, am I glad to have no family involved. We made a decision before we even bought the land than no blood relative of any description would be involved in any part of the project. I must be lucky...my wife is totally in agreement with me on this...she believes and accepts that most of her fellow country folk are useless and quite dangerous to have around....:rofl:

The relationship with our building manager was well established before we started too. Having a professional manage things keeps it all at arms length and pretty much eliminates the danger of any tribal warfare.

Hope you get it all settled down. Thai's do seem to get over shit pretty quickly if you give them a bit of space.....and maybe a bottle of whiskey....:)

Well thanks km, I will just state once more for anyone who may have missed the point " I will never live here "!!

I am in the very lucky position of being allowed to work How many months per year I choose running up to my retirement.

Gravy made a point in another thread about it being a waste of money, well that's his opinion, but the nearest resort to stay in here is about 18kms away and 6 months or so of that for the next 5 years or so didn't add up to me.

IF I finally do retire in thailand its will be a good 15 hour journey away from this crew,, in the meantime it will be nice to come back to a place with my stuff in it where I want it

Nige. Everything will be fine, just as soon as the smoke dies down!:mid:

i would take the old man out back and shoot him if he was related to me,he is past belief
total deviant…
keep on him nigel or you will make a rod for your own back in the future

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Cheers mate I'm sure you would, but that's gonna cause a big problem with me and the missus.

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You're missing the point. It would make for a smashing ending to the thread...

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never said thanks

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I'm sure it's a sign of weakness. :rolleyes:

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a visa run Monday

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What time is good for you to meet? I'll send you a Googly of the car park.

Actually, I just asked The Midget why fathers are ignorant pricks and we came to the conclusion that its because they're the had of the family and the kids doing stuff like that for them is expected as a matter of course, so you're not doing anything special.

I did say that from our perspective they're not 'above' us and will likely miss out on more niceties in the future. I'm expecting a blow-job off Ma when they move into the place I'm building.

Sounds you have gotten yourself into a proper in-law feud. Time to put your foot down. It's never too late. Treat the FiL and any other person with the same respect they treat you. Practice the golden rule. "He who has the gold makes the rules". This is what Thai "culture" is all about so will come as no big shock to the in-laws. After a short period, the in laws will soon understand it's in their best interests to stfu and leave you do things your way.

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Just move in when it's done and tell them all to get fucked.

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A good way to start. Note, it's my experience you can find an "expert" on auspicious days to confirm the day you want to move in is indeed a good day.

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in the meantime it will be nice to come back to a place with my stuff in it where I want it

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Very interesting and informative thread, the house looks like a perfect bolt hole, and the build has been relatively painless, although its a pity it couldnt be further away from the in laws house. I would be planting vegetation to increase the aspect of separation.

I think for westerners to live with or close to thai families, especially rural thai families, we have to either be prepared to give up most of the territoriality and privacy that we expect and have become used to, or if we wish to retain it, then the boundaries have to be marked out assertively very early in the relationship, as per ralphsassers posts.
His comments about letting them walk all over you if allowed to are spot on.

The pecking order needs to be set out early on, and , his land or not, bursting out over the smoking episode was the right thing to do.




Who will have the keys to the house when it is unoccupied, and what is to stop others from using, and abusing, the place and all its contents when you are not there. Have you considered putting land mines around the house?

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I'm expecting a blow-job off Ma when they move into the place I'm building.

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That didn't go down well. The Midget's not talking to me now after informing her that her folks should be bending over for me. Oh well...

Now imagine the reception if she knew about your intentions for Ma :)

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Now imagine the reception if she knew about your intentions for Ma :)

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She understands metaphorical statements.

Well that's a turn up for the books, just back from Phon Phisai to register the house,

BUT this morning before I left I re coated the front door, whilst I was doing that the old man made a beeline for me jumped up on the balcony, jabbered away quite softly, then all smiling was patting me on the back, basically apologies about yesterday's smoke.

I shook his hand and smiled in acknowledgement and off he went round the back of the bungalow again, , moments later after he circled round he reappeared just to the right of me, , stopped in his tracks looked me in the eye, cooked one leg up and released a massive jam tart, winked at me and moved on.

Now after reading Marmite def of father, I reckon he was saying you may have won the battle son but I'm gonna win the war, there's only one alpha male in this camp.

Mabe acterritory marking expertise.

Tax x this will be locked up all 3 sets of keys going home in my pocket, all power off from inside, complete shutdown thanks.

I reckon you should invite somtam slaps fil over,

He'd be sweeping up more potential bonfires