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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Earl View Post
    Looks mighty fine, love those big windows, nice drawings too.
    Thanks Earl. Yes, I love that too. Have to give credit to my wife, she bought a lot of shelter books and was very firm about the kind of windows and doors she wanted.

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    For some reason I only looked at this today, but a fine build.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Earl View Post
    Looks mighty fine, love those big windows, nice drawings too.
    Thanks Earl. Yes, I love that too. Have to give credit to my wife, she bought a lot of shelter books and was very firm about the kind of windows and doors she wanted.

    Humbert

    Looking good and I like the big windows also.

    However, I notice in one of your photos how the sun streams into the room and shines directly on the tiled floor. Do you have any plans to prevent this as it may cause the room/house to be a bit warm?

    bobforest

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    ^ Bob, you are just seeing the effect of the low morning sun from the east. The house in oriented east - west so the afternoon sun is no problem since the western elevation has no windows.

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    Once you get some foliage growing around the house, will keep direct sun off the house. Makes a big difference in keeping house cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert View Post
    ^ Bob, you are just seeing the effect of the low morning sun from the east. The house in oriented east - west so the afternoon sun is no problem since the western elevation has no windows.
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    OK. I'd still go with Norton's suggestion and do some shade planting. Looks great!

    bobforest

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobforest
    OK. I'd still go with Norton's suggestion and do some shade planting. Looks great!
    The second floor will get most the effect of the morning sun more than the ground floor and there is no amount of landscaping that will change that in the near term. Just have to partially close the shutters and run the ceiling fans. Any way you dice it Thailand is hot.

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    Posting an elevation of the kitchen and bath cabinetry. I am submitting drawings to my local wood craftsman to get a cost estimate.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ossierob
    is the gas bottle stored underneath?
    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert
    Yes the gas tank goes underneath.
    what sort of ventilation does that cupboard have?

    that sort of set up is illegal in Europe due to the danger of gas build up and consequences
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    why? did yours go through your underwear drawer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy
    what sort of ventilation does that cupboard have?

    that sort of set up is illegal in Europe due to the danger of gas build up and consequences
    The cabinet door fronts are vented with inset panels of vertical lath.

    In Thailand it's done all the time.

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    lots of things are done in Thailand, but that doesn't make them safe!

    situating the gas bottle outside in a ventilated cupboard would be better

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    ^Outside in the atmosphere of 30-35 degrees C? No thanks, but its your call. I understand the closed cabinet and loss of gases inside and possible explosiveness of the situation, but the shut-off valve is quite secure. After each use we turn off the gas. If stored outside you would keep the valve open I presume full time? If so I'd put a shut-off valve inside the house as well. Safety first!

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    I wonder why they have such regulations then Itnt?

    how many people close of the valve of the gas bottle after cooking? very few

    they close the cooker valves but not the bottle valve

    even then, a faulty connection can leak gas when the valve is closed

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    Quote Originally Posted by ltnt
    Outside in the atmosphere of 30-35 degrees C?

    are you thinking straight? unless the kitchen has aircon, the inside of the cupboard will be the same temperature

    even if not, that temp would affect nothing

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    ^^^ i'm with you Doc; safety 1st every time. Bottle outside, stop cock in supply pipe inside ! easy.

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    1. The amount of gas contained in the line after the valve is insignificant and would dissipate almost instantly on its possible errant release.

    2. Assuming you do have a small shed outside for your gas bottle storage, take a therometer out there say around 14:00. then come inside and check the temperature under your cooker in the gas bottle storage bin. I'd say you've got a significant delta "T".

    3. Do you have an isolation valve on your gas line on entry to your domicile?

    4. Do your renter's cook in their apartments? Where's the source of their gas cylinders?

    5. I don't care what others do when they use gas cylinders as their source of heat for cooking. I recommend they turn it off after each and every use. Not a problem in my book. Of course if one of them blows themselves to kingdom come, then I'm a little bit saddened that they did so, but that's their choice. I'm not here to save the world,just offering my little bit of learned caution. Gas explosions are terrifying and not for the faint hearted. Been there done that on a far bigger volume of gas.

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    As I said, safety first, put the gas bottle outside

    then there would be no nitpicking nonsense

    as for your other more personal questions, my outside kitchen at home has a gas bottle also outside

    my inside kitchen uses an Induction hob

    my apartments are also all electric as gas is something that can be unpredictable in others' hands

    the normal temperatures that gas bottles may be kept in is up to around 50C, so a well ventilated cupboard out of the sun is fine



    Quote Originally Posted by ltnt
    The amount of gas contained in the line after the valve is insignificant and would dissipate almost instantly on its possible errant release.
    whilst that is correct it has no bearing on the subject; most leaks are around the valve, whether they are turned off or not
    I have reported your post

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    Running several meters of exposed gas pipe around the broiling hot western elevation to a tank in a remote exterior location within a superheated cabinet seems only minimally safer than employing a short lead of tubing protected by a safety valve within a concrete cabinet.

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    oh well, good luck with it

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    Our 'family' home has 2-3 of those pillars like you have in the middle of the room..ours ARE to 1 side of the 'living' room mind, but our builder bricked round them with those small ornimental bricks to make each pillar a feature...simply done, & creates a kinda 'rural' feel inside.

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    ^ would have been easier just to put a few chickens in


    I remember when I was building my first house, the big wooden one in the country, there was a pillar right in the middle of the space under the house

    I didn't like it much but I didn't think we could do much about it

    but FriscoFrankie made such a fuss about it that I asked the architect to try to have it removed

    he came back with a pair of quite massive concrete beams instead, so that the pillar could be removed

    it was either those or finding some large steel beams, which could have taken ages to get, so we went with the concrete

    in the end, they looked fine, and the space under the house was perfect for parties

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    Quote Originally Posted by ltnt View Post
    ^Outside in the atmosphere of 30-35 degrees C? No thanks, but its your call. I understand the closed cabinet and loss of gases inside and possible explosiveness of the situation, but the shut-off valve is quite secure. After each use we turn off the gas. If stored outside you would keep the valve open I presume full time? If so I'd put a shut-off valve inside the house as well. Safety first!
    It's always entertaining to have complete idiots post their 'words of wisdom'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy View Post
    situating the gas bottle outside in a ventilated cupboard would be better
    That's what I did. Safer than in a cupboard in the kitchen. The only thing I've noticed with the interior of the outside cement/tiled cupboard is it's been a haven for those little wasp nests which get scraped out regularly.

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    When I worked in retail store planning I always had buyers asking if I could remove the columns so they could put in more racks. Idiots.

    If you don't want columns you need to build a different type of structure with bearing walls or large beams to distribute the weight from above to the outside walls.

    I am not into decorating columns. They are what they are and using cheap decorating tricks only calls attention to them.

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    Lovely gaff, one of the best on here

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