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    Right - so here is the kitchen I would design..

    Back wall attached to the house has the western style appliances (fridges, oven grill bank, dishwasher etc and a large sink area for washing and food prep.

    Center island with draws and cupboards with hob units (gas, electric whatever) and large preparation area around it. Above that pans hanging and other stuff for cooking around extractor.

    Then the rest of the walls (the other three basically) have wall to ceiling doors like this



    but on all three sides.

    This means that when I am cooking, they are closed, and when the missus is cooking, they are all open, she is basically in an outside thai style kitchen, and yet it is not - it is a fully western kitchen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pominasia
    It works for us.
    Which is all that matters.

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    As promised, here is the current outside kitchen



    And to complete the picture - here is the outside oven - being fired up for a few pizzas !


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    Very tidy.

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    Awesome, very airy kitchen indeed.

    I like the brick oven. Pizza's must be good.


    Quote Originally Posted by pominasia View Post
    As promised, here is the current outside kitchen



    And to complete the picture - here is the outside oven - being fired up for a few pizzas !


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    Quote Originally Posted by Panty Hamster View Post
    Thai women like outdoor kitchens so their garbage can be flung over the shoulder, compost style, rather than carried to a garbage bucket. It's genetic. Their DNA also requires a lingering, wafting stench that is only attained by an unfiltered sewer drain. It's easy to achieve. Almost anyone can do it.


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    ^You do understand that the puddles and stench are necessary for a good harvest of flies and mosquito. Avaluable source of protein for themselves and the frogs.

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    Yuck . Yuck! Yuck!! Yuck!!! YUCK!

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    ^^^^

    Your outdoor oven. Is that the coals inside the oven? How do you position the pizza? A cooking sheet/stone placed directly onto the coals or a grid above the coals with room around all sides to allow air circulation? Any tips on temperature control, a sliding door/opening on the "metal" door?
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    Some background - I am still working in Bangkok, while the wife supervises work on the house. The oven was built using firebricks found in Tak, by our very capable handyman. I sent pictures of suitable ovens, and he built this.
    The chimney is misplaced and lets out heat - it should have been over the oven door. So it is closed off.
    We have used it only a few times (during my brief visits) so we are still perfecting our cooking. We have only made pizzas so far and they are getting better each time.
    We only have used charcoal so far. It is piled directly on the bricks to one side (see pic). The oven door is used to retain heat - usually with the door cracked open.
    Once the oven is hot (this decided by the wife, but we will get a thermometer) - around an hour - we put the pizza directly on the bricks using a homemade peel, and use the same to lift it off when cooked. Cooked means the dough is slightly charred. We have bought a wire grid on legs, and will use it next time to see how that works.
    Needless to say all this fun, particularly as a few beers are needed to help the cooking.
    I will be retiring this year, so plan to use the oven regularly, and try tandoori chicken, baked potatoes, bread. I'll post our progress.

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    Not sure how true it is, but I read that in all tropical countries kitchens are traditionally placed outside/separate from the main house.

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    I wish the MIL would cook in the next province.

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    Go to Ikea for indoor kitchens. A friend just bought one and shipped it to Cambodia. Kitchens are simple for us, difficult for Asians.
    Benches always 600mm wide, bench tops always 900mm high. Overheads are 300mm deep and 600mm above benchtops.
    Drawers are much better than cupboards with doors, soft close hinges are preferable and ergonomics are important.
    Just remember with Ikea kitchens that their cupboards don't suit universal sizes for cooktops and ovens, they only suit their appliances.
    Kitchens are very simple.

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    How do they take to the high humidity, door sticking and drawers rotting? Any problems with local lodgers, the insects, taking up residency in the compressed wood chip elements?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus View Post
    Right - so here is the kitchen I would design..

    Back wall attached to the house has the western style appliances (fridges, oven grill bank, dishwasher etc and a large sink area for washing and food prep.

    Center island with draws and cupboards with hob units (gas, electric whatever) and large preparation area around it. Above that pans hanging and other stuff for cooking around extractor.

    Then the rest of the walls (the other three basically) have wall to ceiling doors like this



    but on all three sides.

    This means that when I am cooking, they are closed, and when the missus is cooking, they are all open, she is basically in an outside thai style kitchen, and yet it is not - it is a fully western kitchen.
    That's more or less exactly what weve got in our new house for the outside / Thai kitchen, but we've come to a grinding halt ovet the 'disappearing walls' on three sides. It's 6m x 4m with a 3.20m ceiling and we've looked at folding screens and roller blinds but none seem to fit the bill. We can't find folding screens that size, and roller blinds (bamboo, vinyl, etc) will jiat blow around in any wind and rain.

    ANY IDEAS ?????

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