iPAD vs Tablet PC: Forget the iPAD

**harrybarracuda** · 14-02-2011, 09:15 PM

Horses for courses, chaps, the technophobes will always ridicule the technophiles and vice versa.

**JoshuaInMukdahan** · 15-02-2011, 12:22 AM

I never wanted an ipad, in fact I posted here a few weeks ago (All Things Android) about my alternative to the ipad. I waited as long as could for a choice or viable option. I bought two of those Android tablets and was happy the first few weeks.

First my wife's model has a software glitch that allows the battery to drain too low, then not accepting a charge (even dumbphones figured that crap out). Next her onboard speakers stopped working, even after a full restore/install not working. Onboard web cam has no functionality in any program that would make it useful. Final straw was the LCD backlighting not working. Paranoid I returned both and the only option left was the ipad because we are all waiting for an Android tablet that has decent reviews. There just aren't any yet.

So yeah I bought a couple tablets for $299 each, returned them after major flaws and bought a 32GB 3G ipad and ended up paying more for one item than the two I had previously. But the point is I didn't want an ipad, I simply didn't have a choice for a tablet. I waited a year and I could still wait another year and not have a comparable device running Android.

**Butterfly** · 15-02-2011, 06:34 AM

yep, apple is way on the top of the game with the iPad

it's ridiculous to see people walk around with those things though,

**harrybarracuda** · 15-02-2011, 07:00 PM

Viewsonic are doing a dual boot Android/Windows 7 tablet with a 10" screen. Now that sounds like just the job for my needs.

**Butterfly** · 15-02-2011, 07:04 PM

people walking around with their iPad looks like retards, saw one again in the BTS, it's hilarious

**DrB0b** · 15-02-2011, 07:49 PM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Horses for courses, chaps, the technophobes will always ridicule the technophiles and vice versa.

My ridicule is that of the pro for the punter. I can't believe you suckers pay good money for that shit

**JoshuaInMukdahan** · 15-02-2011, 11:22 PM

Originally Posted by Butterfly

people walking around with their iPad looks like retards, saw one again in the BTS, it's hilarious

I think they/we look less hideous than walking around with a netbook or people lugging around full laptops looking for their nearest wifi hotspot. One thing I need to try to get away from is Netflix, I love grabbing that thing and watching movies a couple times a week. But I soon will have to give up the entire idea of Netflix.

**harrybarracuda** · 16-02-2011, 03:30 PM

Originally Posted by DrB0b

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Horses for courses, chaps, the technophobes will always ridicule the technophiles and vice versa.

My ridicule is that of the pro for the punter. I can't believe you suckers pay good money for that shit

DrB, does this phrase have any meaning in English? I have no idea what you are talking about. Are you ridiculing people for renting hookers?

**DrB0b** · 16-02-2011, 03:41 PM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by DrB0b

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Horses for courses, chaps, the technophobes will always ridicule the technophiles and vice versa.

My ridicule is that of the pro for the punter. I can't believe you suckers pay good money for that shit

DrB, does this phrase have any meaning in English?

Yes. It does. Several meanings. you managed to get one of them. Well done

**Little Chuchok** · 16-02-2011, 04:40 PM

- PCWorld

Dunno if this will work...

**harrybarracuda** · 16-02-2011, 07:17 PM

My ridicule is that of the pro for the punter.

So if it isn't the hooker one, you must be Indian.

Dunno if this will work...

Don't see the Viewsonic there, comparably priced to the iPad, dual OS, etc.

PCWorld just suck Apple's cock, don't they?

**DrB0b** · 16-02-2011, 07:24 PM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

My ridicule is that of the pro for the punter.

So if it isn't the hooker one, you must be Indian.

Nah. You a yank innit - div in the berkshires?

**JoshuaInMukdahan** · 16-02-2011, 08:27 PM

The viewsonic was a FAIL right out the gate, if you were referring to the Gtab. Massive recalls all across all major US retailers. The HP is the mystery that still after 2 years has yet to surface. The Xoom looks promising, but a hefty price tag for a device that no reviews have said will out preform the funtionality or battery life of the current industry leader. I am closely watching the Xoom, I want one.

**harrybarracuda** · 16-02-2011, 08:28 PM

Why your poor command of English leads you to believe I am American I have no idea.

Come on, what is it supposed to mean?

"My ridicule is that of the pro for the punter".

**harrybarracuda** · 16-02-2011, 08:32 PM

Originally Posted by JoshuaInMukdahan

The viewsonic was a FAIL right out the gate, if you were referring to the Gtab. Massive recalls all across all major US retailers. The HP is the mystery that still after 2 years has yet to surface. The Xoom looks promising, but a hefty price tag for a device that no reviews have said will out preform the funtionality or battery life of the current industry leader. I am closely watching the Xoom, I want one.

I wasn't referring to the GTab.

Viewsonic

**DrB0b** · 16-02-2011, 09:03 PM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Why your poor command of English leads you to believe I am American I have no idea.

Come on, what is it supposed to mean?

"My ridicule is that of the pro for the punter".

As a professional I have nothing but contempt for the user. Hardly cryptic. The fact that you have such difficulties with such simple statements speaks volumes about you and your simplistic toy-loving ilk.

**JoshuaInMukdahan** · 16-02-2011, 09:33 PM

My mistake Harry, I didn't realize this was an ipad vs. windows tablet thing. I just assumed it was Android, strike all my comments.

Though I now wonder... Why are we comparing Windows to a stripped down operating system of the ipad? That is not apples to apples or a fair comparison. If we are comparing mobile OS's would not the fair comparison be ipad to any windows mobile OS tablet device? Do any exist outside the phone realm? The tabs being compared here are running a full blown Windows 7, not Windows Mobile. Or is that the comparison being sought? Not a fair one in my eyes, again not a fanboy by any means just not apples to apples in my eyes as far as the OS is concerned.

**Butterfly** · 16-02-2011, 09:43 PM

Originally Posted by DrB0b

As a professional I have nothing but contempt for the user.

damn, didn't take you for a level 1 support guy

actually couldn't agree more, having work as a level 1 admin when I was younger, I hate those fucking clueless users

they should all be shot

**Butterfly** · 16-02-2011, 09:44 PM

Originally Posted by JoshuaInMukdahan

The viewsonic was a FAIL right out the gate, if you were referring to the Gtab. Massive recalls all across all major US retailers. The HP is the mystery that still after 2 years has yet to surface. The Xoom looks promising, but a hefty price tag for a device that no reviews have said will out preform the funtionality or battery life of the current industry leader. I am closely watching the Xoom, I want one.

the iPad is by far leading the fag game, they have no competition

**BigRed** · 16-02-2011, 10:27 PM

Originally Posted by JoshuaInMukdahan

The viewsonic was a FAIL right out the gate, if you were referring to the Gtab. Massive recalls all across all major US retailers.

but with a bit of work it's good:

ViewSonic gTablet Review, Begging To Be Rooted - HotHardware

**The Gentleman Scamp** · 17-02-2011, 06:28 AM

The iPad is completely ridiculous, as if the iPhone wasn't bad enough - the iPad is a giant version of the iPhone, the only other main difference is that it can't make phone calls. I wish it could, that would be an amusing sight!

**FailSafe** · 17-02-2011, 07:26 AM

The Asus EP121 I've ordered (64GB version) runs full Windows 7 and is currently the most powerful tablet on the market- it's a pretty interesting device- Asus should be shipping the next lot in a week or so.

Asus EP121 Specifications

12.1” 1280×800 AFFS+ Wideview LED backlit display (16:10 aspect ratio)
- 175 degree viewing angle in all 4 orientations
- 220 nits
- Corning Gorilla Glass cover lens
- Multi-touch capacitive digitizer with support for 2 fingers
- Wacom EM digitizer (256 levels of pressure sensitivity)
Intel Dual Core i5 470UM CPU (ULV) with Intel HD graphics
2GB or 4GB Dual Channel DDR3 RAM
32GB or 64GB SSD
Accelerometer sensor for automatic display rotation
Radios
- Bluetooth 3.0
- 802.11 b/g/n WiFi
Buttons
- Volume rocker switch
- Power switch
- Keyboard button to activate software keyboard (press and hold for ESC)
- Rotation lock switch
- Flip 3D button on front of display (press and hold for CTRL-ALT-DEL)
- Reset button (pinhole)
Inputs/Outputs
- Stereo speakers
- 2 USB ports (USB 2.0)
- Microphone
- 3.5mm combo headphone/microphone input jack
- Mini HDMI
- DC IN
- SD/SDHC/SDXC/MMC Card reader/writer
- 2MP Webcam
- Integrated pen storage compartment
Indicators
- Power LED
- Charge LED
34WH battery (not user replaceable)
12.28 x 8.16 x 0.67 inches / 311.91 x 207.26 x 17.01 mm
2.53lbs / 1.15kg
Included Accessories
- Slim profile 19.5V 3.08A power supply with auxiliary 5V 1A USB charging port (can charge slate and mobile device simultaneously)
- Slim profile Bluetooth keyboard with 2 AAA batteries
- Folio case
  - integrated pen holder
  - flip out landscape easel
  - flip out portrait easel
  - anti-skid edges for upright landscape orientation
- Wacom EM pen with eraser (no buttons on pen)
- Extra nibs for pen with nib removal tool
- Recovery discs with support to create recovery USB thumb drive (BIOS will boot to USB drive automatically)
- Cleaning cloth
- Printed user manual (PDF version also included)
- Warranty card
Included Software (may vary by region)
- Microsoft Windows 7 64bit Home Premium
- Microsoft Windows Live Essentials
- Microsoft TouchPack for Windows 7
- Microsoft Office 2010 Starter
- Ambient Design’s ArtRage Studio 3 (full version)
- Asus WebStorage
- Asus Vibe
- Asus Control Deck
- Asus DLNA media-sharing application
- Roxio Player Deluxe
- Amazon Kindle for PC
- PDF version of user manual
MSRP (USD)
- 2GB RAM 32GB SSD $999
- 4GB RAM 64GB SSD $1099

**JoshuaInMukdahan** · 17-02-2011, 08:27 AM

Mmmmm... an i5 in a tablet, sexy stuff right there! That might be a good candidate to replace my laptop. Is there a case that allows the keyboard and tablet to stay together in a laptop type arrangement sort of like the style of that clamcase? I don't want to carry a keyboard with me loose. The images on the link you gave are great, thank for putting the link up there btw.

As far as the ipad being shit... I don't agree at all. I have already said I am not a fanboy, this is the only apple device I own. On the device itself though, it is a well made device that serves it's purpose. It is not a replacement for a laptop by any means, but it's size and battery life is perfect reason to not lug around your laptop to every meeting. Not to mention great for transit boredom and even some productivity. I keep all my client's files in pdf on mine and I rarely have a meeting now that I require my laptop. It is the perfect middle ground between what a phone can not do and what a laptop is overkill for (such as pdf files) and makes a great 3rd display on my desk. It certainly has it's faults but those who feel the faults overpower the advantages of an extra gadget just haven't figured out how they could use it yet.

**harrybarracuda** · 17-02-2011, 01:10 PM

This thread actually died for a long time, mainly due to Android tablets either being complete crap (1.6 or 2.0) or just vapourware.

Now that a year has passed and a few alternatives have started to creep into the market, it is generating a bit of interest.

I like the Viewsonic because I like the idea of the consumer side apps of Android and the work crap I have to carry that lives on Windows residing in the same box.

I wasn't paying much attention to MWC, but there are new tablets from Samsung, HTC, and Toshiba in addition to the ASUS.

HTC Flyer

Toshiba 10.1"

Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1"

Toshiba 11"

The EP121 looks good, but what's the realistic battery life?

**harrybarracuda** · 17-02-2011, 01:28 PM

Originally Posted by DrB0b

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Why your poor command of English leads you to believe I am American I have no idea.

Come on, what is it supposed to mean?

"My ridicule is that of the pro for the punter".

As a professional I have nothing but contempt for the user. Hardly cryptic. The fact that you have such difficulties with such simple statements speaks volumes about you and your simplistic toy-loving ilk.

Actually it speaks volumes about your ability to articulate properly. But then again it's more likely that what you really have contempt for is people who can both afford and adapt to emerging technologies, so I can't really blame you.

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