Thread: iPAD vs Tablet PC: Forget the iPAD

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Daffy, your myopia is kicking in again....

I don't see Coolio but I see the Nexus One.

But yes, AFAIK that's the only one currently shipping with Froyo. Evo and Droid/Droid X will start official upgrades shortly

.

Really?

Maybe if I'll repeat it often enough, at one point, you'll get it. (Doubtful, though.)

How many commercial phones ship, right now, with Flash out of the box, then? (i.e. Froyo include Flash, out of the box?)

[QUOTE=harrybarracuda;1504524]Not withstanding their self-deprecating dig at Vista....

(Reuters) - Microsoft Corp Chief Executive Steve Ballmer touted new tablet-style devices running the Windows 7 operating system from about 20 manufacturers at a conference on Monday, underlining the giant software company's eagerness to counter the explosion of interest in Apple Inc's iPad.

Really? Shipping? Available now?

Oh. Right. Not.

[quote=DaffyDuck;1504754]

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Not withstanding their self-deprecating dig at Vista....

(Reuters) - Microsoft Corp Chief Executive Steve Ballmer touted new tablet-style devices running the Windows 7 operating system from about 20 manufacturers at a conference on Monday, underlining the giant software company's eagerness to counter the explosion of interest in Apple Inc's iPad.

Really? Shipping? Available now?

Oh. Right. Not.

No Daffy, I think they're aimed to be in the shops for the holiday season.

So the iPad has a clear shot until then. Providing they don't have another iPhone-style fuck-up up their sleeve, of course.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

No Daffy, I think they're aimed to be in the shops for the holiday season.

So the iPad has a clear shot until then. Providing they don't have another iPhone-style fuck-up up their sleeve, of course.

Holiday season = so, 5-6 months from now. Good timing, Microsoft.

I half expected them to announce how they will corner the holiday season by shipping their competing products in February 2011.

Of course, with iOS 4 being made available around September/October/November, it'll be like a brand new iPad by the time December rolls around.

I love how you treat it as if the iPad is on borrowed time, until MS enters the market.

a) see above about iOS 4 for the iPad.
b) aren't there going to be Android tablets out by then as well?

MS won't even be in the running. Oh, sure, there'll be tablet products, and the they'll be able to claim they sold more than the Kin. Maybe.

Of course, with iOS 4 being made available around September/October/November, it'll be like a brand new iPad by the time December rolls around.

Huh? Are they downgrading from iOS 4.0.1? Does that fix the design flaw?

You need to go to sleep Daffy, it's way past your bedtime.

iOS 4 refers to the 4.x branch -- of course, anyone technical enough would understand that. I will adjust future comments to adjust for your level of experience, okay?

Originally Posted by DaffyDuck

iOS 4 refers to the 4.x branch -- of course, anyone technical enough would understand that. I will adjust future comments to adjust for your level of experience, okay?

Says the guy who thought a hardware antenna problem could be fixed with a software patch

Can't believe you dipsticks are still on about this shit.

Originally Posted by Dug

Can't believe you dipsticks are still on about this shit.

Can't believe Apple haven't admitted this shit.

Originally Posted by mc2

Originally Posted by DaffyDuck

iOS 4 refers to the 4.x branch -- of course, anyone technical enough would understand that. I will adjust future comments to adjust for your level of experience, okay?

Says the guy who thought a hardware antenna problem could be fixed with a software patch

Apple - iPhone - New features in the iOS 4 Software Update.

http://www.macrumors.com/2010/07/15/...With iOS 3.2.1

Software updates for iPhone 4 and iPad. Download via iTunes.

Originally Posted by DaffyDuck

Originally Posted by mc2

Originally Posted by DaffyDuck

iOS 4 refers to the 4.x branch -- of course, anyone technical enough would understand that. I will adjust future comments to adjust for your level of experience, okay?

Says the guy who thought a hardware antenna problem could be fixed with a software patch

Apple - iPhone - New features in the iOS 4 Software Update.

http://www.macrumors.com/2010/07/15/apple-releases-ios-4-0-1-for-iphone-4-3gs-and-3g/]Apple Addresses iPhone Signal Strength Display With iOS 4.0.1 and iPad Wi-Fi Connectivity With iOS 3.2.1

Software updates for iPhone 4 and iPad. Download via iTunes.

Yes Daffy, we know what they think, but what do you think? Do you think Apple will announce a software fix for this problem, despite most experts saying it's a hardware design flaw?

Here, let me fix that first link for you.

With over 100 new features, the free iOS 4 Software Update lets you do some amazing things. (Except make phone calls).

That's better. *pat* *pat*

(sits back)

Originally Posted by DaffyDuck

(sits back)

Oh alright Daffy, I'll say it for you. You're afraid to state your opinion in case Apple say something different, and your self-created faux expertise on all things Apple is shown to be nothing but wind and piss.

Am I right?

Of course I am.

so we should have this press conf soon, tonight I expect, US Pacific Time

I suspect a big recall

im betting on a free case / voucher + they will slip in a small apology but mostly the noises from Jobs mouth will be of a reassuring nature.

Originally Posted by mc2

im betting on a free case / voucher + they will slip in a small apology but mostly the noises from Jobs mouth will be of a reassuring nature.

Oh no doubt it will be carefully worded to grudgingly admit there is a problem but without offering to take blame.

But they have to make the right noises - you only have to look at the effect on BP shares today, and they actually haven't even fixed their problem yet either.

apparently they have no intention of a recall according to the WSJ,

don't think apple is ready yet, a few more weeks of the scandal might change their tune though

(sits back. whistles...)

I'm actually on my second iPhone 4. I turned it off the other night and it would not turn back on. The guys in the store couldn't either so they replaced it! Battery charge problem they said. I see Steve Jobs has admitted today there may be an issue with reception. I have not encountered this problem at all

Originally Posted by DaffyDuck

(sits back. whistles...)

In a stale puddle of his own urine...

I'm into this thread cause you guys seem to have some serious knowledge of this smart phone and I was hoping to take it to Phuket on my maiden vouage to Thailand shortly. However I get the feeling it may not work there as the guys in the store said its locked. Can I get around this in Thailand?

Originally Posted by The Fonz

I'm into this thread cause you guys seem to have some serious knowledge of this smart phone and I was hoping to take it to Phuket on my maiden vouage to Thailand shortly. However I get the feeling it may not work there as the guys in the store said its locked. Can I get around this in Thailand?

Where did you buy it originally? Is it an AT&T iPhone 4? If so, they are correct, and it would be locked.

This doesn't mean you can't use it, but rather that you are stuck with AT&T service (at $2/minute for voice roaming, and $100s per day for data roaming.)

Depending on when you go, they *might* have a hack software unlock solution, but I wouldn't bet on it right now. For unlocked iPhones, the best bet is always to buy them in a country where they sell unlocked ones - which is what I do. I offer them for rent for travelers that want to use an iPhone where they go - since Apple hasn't released the iPhone4 internationally yet (July 30th is the date), I don't have any yet (I do have iPhone 3GS', though).

You can still use your iPhone via WiFi as long as you are in WiFi areas, though it's a shame not to have the full functionality because of AT&T's shortsightedness.

Depending on when you go, they *might* have a hack software unlock solution, but I wouldn't bet on it right now. For unlocked iPhones, the best bet is always to buy them in a country where they sell unlocked ones - which is what I do. I offer them for rent for travelers that want to use an iPhone where they go - since Apple hasn't released the iPhone4 internationally yet (July 30th is the date), I don't have any yet (I do have iPhone 3GS', though).

I'd stick with them, they don't have the design flaw.

China now building an even better copy of Ipad now? Know a fellow who goes there apparently often. Says that there are so many factories building copies it is hard to believe. A $100. copy that is supposed to be very good?

Originally Posted by Rascal

China now building an even better copy of Ipad now? Know a fellow who goes there apparently often. Says that there are so many factories building copies it is hard to believe. A $100. copy that is supposed to be very good?

That's about what it's actually worth.