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    The Mac Mini was designed for the low end of the market, hence the absence of a super drive at the time. Your Mini must be pretty old and you must have opted for the cheapest model. Superdrives have been standard for a while now.

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    not that old, 1 year

    check the online store, the basic version of Mac-mini still doesn't ship with SuperDrive. I know it's hilarious.

    Yes I took the cheap model, no point in spending money for an inferior machine, I just bought it for the case and the remote

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    Do you have an answer for my question? If you call a 27" iMac "over priced" then show us something with the same capabilities for a lower price.
    You're not going to get an answer, because he has none -- the guy didn't even know what a 'SuperDrive' is, so his internal knowledgebase is at least 10 years out of date (possibly longer, since he didn't even know the specs of a Powerbook Pismo), and you expect him to know specs and configurations about any modern computers built after the last millennium?

    Get real? You've got a better chance of getting specs for flintstones, stone tools, and maybe ceiling traps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
    not that old, 1 year
    Which is when you bought it ... USED! Who knows how old the actual model was. All Mac mini I bought from the refurb store over the past 3 years have had a superdrive.

    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
    check the online store, the basic version of Mac-mini still doesn't ship with SuperDrive. I know it's hilarious.
    What's hilarious is that I *did* check the online store, and here's the line up, including the low end model to the left:

    Mac mini - Apple Store (Thailand)

    Oddly, the specs of the low-end model are:

    2.26GHz : 160GB
    2.26GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
    2GB memory
    160GB hard drive1
    8x double-layer SuperDrive (emphasis mine)
    NVIDIA GeForce 9400M graphics
    Mac OS X Snow Leopard
    That's on the Thai Online Store, where you would expect things to be older, and more expensive. Seriously, you should find better ways to profit from what must obviously be a time machine you use to surf the web.

    I'd hesitate to think that you are actually that dumb to think that people won;t check the sources you refer to?

    I remember a French guy who worked for Apple a long time ago, who got really really pissed when they didn't need his services... and replaced him with a different janitorial service.

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    If there are any programs you use on Windows that you want a Mac equivalent let someone know.

    Just a few to start off would be

    VLC media player - Open Source Multimedia Framework and Player For your vids

    Adium - Download If you use an instant messenger like MSN or Yahoo as it will connect to any of them

    Transmission For any torrents you like downloading

    All the above are free but ones that I use that are worth the money are

    Password Manager + Automatic Form Filler for Mac OS X Helps store all your logins etc and puts a nice easy to use little button on the toolbar making it easy to log in, helps to prevent logging in to any phishing sites as well. Works with Safari, Firefox, Camino and a few others.

    AppZapper - The uninstaller Apple forgot. For removing apps, just open app zapper, drag the icon of the app you want to delete and hit the Zap button for a nice zappy sound!
    The Geek Shall Inherit The Earth

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly
    so market share is 1/6
    16% is still rather different than the 1% you claimed, according to most things I can find Apples are at a bit under 10% and gaining steadily but slowly.

    Win 7 is being touted as the latest and greatest thing from MS and yet a guy like larvidchr will go out and pay 70,000 Baht (which is not really chump change) for a new iMac and is willing to give it a go even though he has never used a Mac before.

    I think that is very telling, to upgrade (?) his current OS to Win 7 would have cost him less in both money and the (bit) of time he will need to learn to find his way around the new OS yet he was willing to take the plunge and see what is going on.

    I am pretty sure he will like what he gets, for sure there will be a few minor hiccups along the way as he gets used to doing things on his computer in a slightly different way but as he said he is going to have some time to settle down with it and poke around. He can post up any questions he has here or google and there are a myriad of sites offering suggestions for poor Windows users who are finally opening their eyes!
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    Quote Originally Posted by slackula
    Win 7 is being touted as the latest and greatest thing from MS
    it's crap, like Apple, never believe their marketing campaign.

    Quote Originally Posted by slackula
    a guy like larvidchr will go out and pay 70,000 Baht (which is not really chump change) for a new iMac and is willing to give it a go even though he has never used a Mac before.
    he did say he will take the plunge, so I can see a few upcoming threads expressing regrets

    at the end of the day his decision was based on gayness style, not the specs per se, since he probably has no clue what they mean in the first place

    to be honest, no matter what you choose these days in terms of specs, it will serve your needs 99% of the time, so a cheap PC for 15,000 THB will serve 99% of the market. Everything else is pure indulgence.

    it's christmas, larvidchr wanted an expensive toy, and he got one. Nothing wrong with that. That's what I did with the mac-mini. Maybe he would have had a different choice if it was in a different time period or if he had to make a choice based on logic (low budget).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
    at the end of the day his decision was based on gayness style, not the specs per se, since he probably has no clue what they mean in the first place
    ...as neither do you, it seems, as we're still waiting for you to provide a spec list to respond to Slack's questions. That'll never happen, right, because you don't know enough.

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    ^ fucking Google it

    or try dell.com or hp.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by slackula
    I am pretty sure he will like what he gets, for sure there will be a few minor hiccups along the way as he gets used to doing things on his computer in a slightly different way but as he said he is going to have some time to settle down with it and poke around. He can post up any questions he has here or google and there are a myriad of sites offering suggestions for poor Windows users who are finally opening their eyes!
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    I think he will be positively surprised with the amount of quality free (and other not free but cheap) softwares available on this platform.

    Surprised also about the stability of Mac OS X. And surprised that a computer is not just a daily nightmare dealing with virii, malwares and popups.

    I'm pretty new to Mac OS X after 10 years with GNU/Linux and I'll never go back. Not speaking about Windows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly
    ^ fucking Google it or try dell.com or hp.com
    I decided to google it because I got bored waiting for you to back up your claims about iMacs being overpriced with something verifiable. At dell.com I found something but the posts got shaved off to MKP:
    https://teakdoor.com/moronic-kiddies-...83-crap-2.html

    OK, that didn't work either now, I think the MKP thread has been trashed. I spent ages (well a few minutes actually) configuring a Dell XPS but even with a 24" screen it still didn't really have hardware specs to match the 27" iMac even though the prices were quite similar.

    Hmm, not looking too good so far..

    I'll have a look at hp.com
    Last edited by slackula; 11-12-2009 at 07:41 PM. Reason: because I think the MKP thread linked to went *poof*

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    Quote Originally Posted by slackula
    2.66 GHz quad-core Intel core i5
    4 GB 1066 MHz DDR3 SDRAM (2x2GB)
    1 TB SATA hard drive
    ATI Radeon HD 4850 512 MB
    LED backlight display at 2560-by-1440 resolution
    8x Double Layer SuperDrive
    Apple Magic Mouse
    Apple Wireless Keyboard
    OS X 10.6.2 (I am guessing that it will be 64 bit out of the box)
    ok mactards, let's see what we can get from Dell.com

    Studio XPS 8000, Intel® Core™ i5-750 processor(8MB Cache, 2.66GHz)
    6GB Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM at 1066MHz - 4 DIMMs
    1TB - 7200RPM, SATA 3.0Gb/s, 16MB Cache
    16X DVD+/-RW Drive
    ATI Radeon HD 4350 512MB
    24" Dell ST2410 Full High Definition Monitor
    Dell Wireless Desktop Keyboard & Mouse
    Integrated 7.1 Channel Audio

    Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium, 64Bit, English
    Microsoft® Office Home and Student 2007
    2 Year Basic Service Plan
    McAfee SecurityCenter, 15-Months
    Dell Online Backup 2GB for 1 year
    Studio XPS 8000 Studio XPS 8000
    $1,258 or 41,000 THB

    and that includes 2 years warranty and 6GB of RAM, and 2GB of online backup for 1 year, and all that for 40,000 THB

    granted it's 24'' Screen, but last time I checked a 27'' Screen didn't cost 30,000 THB

    Mactards OWNED !!!
    Last edited by Butterfly; 11-12-2009 at 07:52 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slackula
    I think the MKP thread has been trashed.
    My bad, it hasn't been trashed I just had a brain-fart linking to it.

    https://teakdoor.com/moronic-kiddies-...83-crap-2.html

    Again apparently! FFS I give up! Just go to MKP and look for the thread helpfully titled "crap".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by slackula
    2.66 GHz quad-core Intel core i5
    4 GB 1066 MHz DDR3 SDRAM (2x2GB)
    1 TB SATA hard drive
    ATI Radeon HD 4850 512 MB
    LED backlight display at 2560-by-1440 resolution
    8x Double Layer SuperDrive
    Apple Magic Mouse
    Apple Wireless Keyboard
    OS X 10.6.2 (I am guessing that it will be 64 bit out of the box)
    ok mactards, let's see what we can get from Dell.com

    PROCESSORS Studio XPS 8000, Intel® Core™ i5-750 processor(8MB Cache, 2.66GHz) edit
    OPERATING SYSTEM Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium, 64Bit, English edit
    OFFICE SOFTWARE Microsoft® Office Home and Student 2007 edit
    WARRANTY AND SERVICE 2 Year Basic Service Plan edit
    In-Home Service after Remote Diagnosis: for issues covered by Limited Hardware Warranty, technician and/or part will be dispatched, if necessary, usually in 1 or 2 business days following Remote Diagnosis. During Remote Diagnosis, you may be asked to access the inside of your system (where safe to do so) or to participate in troubleshooting until a cause can be isolated.
    SECURITY SOFTWARE McAfee SecurityCenter, 15-Months edit
    MEMORY 6GB Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM at 1066MHz - 4 DIMMs edit
    HARD DRIVE 1TB - 7200RPM, SATA 3.0Gb/s, 16MB Cache edit
    OPTICAL DRIVE 16X DVD+/-RW Drive edit
    MONITOR 24" Dell ST2410 Full High Definition Monitor edit
    VIDEO CARD ATI Radeon HD 4350 512MB edit
    SOUND CARD Integrated 7.1 Channel Audio edit
    SPEAKERS No speakers (Speakers are required to hear audio from your system) edit
    KEYBOARD Dell Wireless Desktop Keyboard & Mouse edit
    MOUSE Mouse included with Keyboard purchase edit
    My Accessories
    DATASAFE ONLINE BACKUP Dell Online Backup 2GB for 1 year edit
    ALSO INCLUDED WITH YOUR SYSTEM
    Studio XPS 8000 Studio XPS 8000
    Adobe Software Adobe® Acrobat® Reader 9.0 Multi-Language
    and that includes 2 years warranty and 6GB of RAM, and 2GB of online backup for 1 year, and all that for less than 40,000 THB

    granted it's 24'' Screen, but last time I checked a 27'' Screen didn't cost 30,000 THB

    Mactards OWNED !!!
    Interesting, no speakers? Certainly on my part, the 'D' word never instills a warm and fuzzy feeling, and the 'H' word flashes across my (weathered) brow. FYI, 'H' word is 'Helpdesk'. That on the basis of all Dell's that I've used (never bought, always Company provided) fall apart in a very short period of time. Does anyone other than a company (i.e. private individual) actually buy Dell's??

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    30,000 THB just for a shinny case and an Apple logo

    OWNED !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
    30,000 THB for a shinny case and an Apple logo
    Shinny? Is this a 'leg pull'???

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAG
    Interesting, no speakers?
    you want speaker on your mac ? sure, that would be 30,000 THB please !!!

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    ok let's go shopping to HP.com now

    Ownage Level 2 on the way,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
    ok let's go shopping to HP.com now

    Onwage Level 2 on the way,
    Sharp intake of breath!!!! Can't wait!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly
    just for a shinny case and an Apple logo
    You bought a Mini based on the case and the fact that it had a remote!

    Could you post a link to the Dell deal because I haven't been able to find it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by PAG
    Interesting, no speakers?
    you want speaker on your mac ? sure, that would be 30,000 THB please !!!
    OK, as an aside, in my (home) office I have a small Harman/Kardon unit, which gives great sound from the inbuilt (hate to say it, on the basis of provoking Butterfingers even more) iPod dock. However, the inbuilt speakers from the 24" iMac on my desk is near enough as makes no difference for sound quality. Cost to Mac buyers? No problem, that's FOC folks!

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    I fucking love TD on a Friday night,

    why go to Nana and fuck some young whores when you can post on TD and own a full string of mactard princess

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    Quote Originally Posted by slackula
    You bought a Mini based on the case and the fact that it had a remote!
    that's exactly what I am saying, it's all about gay look and a shinny case. I admit it. That's why I bought the mac-mini in the first place. It looks good. Period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly
    why go to Nana and fuck some young whores when you can post on TD and own a full string of mactard princess
    Except you haven't "own"ed anything yet.

    Can I buy the Dell you listed here in Thailand at that price and with those features?

    Have fun in Nana..

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    and now for the kill !!!

    HP with a 27'' Screen

    Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-750 processor [2.66GHz, 1MB L2 + 8MB shared L3 cache]
    6GB DDR3-1333MHz SDRAM [3 DIMMs] from 4GB
    1TB 5400 rpm SATA 3Gb/s hard drive
    512MB ATI Radeon HD 4350 [DVI, HDMI, VGA adapter]
    LightScribe 16X max. DVD+/-R/RW SuperMulti drive
    15-in-1 memory card reader, 1 USB, 1394, audio
    Integrated 7.1 channel sound with front audio ports
    No speakers
    HP deluxe wireless keyboard and HP wireless optical mouse
    Monitor HP 2709m 27-inch Diagonal 16:9 Full HD Widescreen Monitor

    Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
    Microsoft(R) Works 9.0
    Norton Internet Security(TM) 2010 - 15 month
    $1,289.98 or 42,000 THB

    ok granted, it only has the 1 YEAR WARRANTY like the Mac

    HP Official Store — Buy and Customize your e9250 and e9250t series PC direct from HP

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