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    Tik Tok Block moot in USA

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    • US appeals court rejects emergency bid by TikTok to block law that could ban app
    • Ruling means TikTok now must quickly move to Supreme Court to halt pending ban
    • US authorities have raised security concerns that TikTok disputes



    WASHINGTON, Dec 13 (Reuters) - TikTok must now move quickly with a request to the Supreme Court to block or overturn a law that would require its Chinese parent ByteDance to divest of the short-video app by Jan. 19 after an appeals court on Friday rejected a bid for more time.
    TikTok and ByteDance on Monday had filed the emergency motion with the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia, asking for more time to make their case to the U.S. Supreme Court.

    The companies had warned that without court action, the law will "shut down TikTok — one of the nation's most popular speech platforms — for its more than 170 million domestic monthly users."
    But the court rejected the bid, saying TikTok and ByteDance had not identified a previous case "in which a court, after rejecting a constitutional challenge to an Act of Congress, has enjoined the Act from going into effect while review is sought in the Supreme Court," Friday's unanimous court order said.

    A TikTok spokesperson said after the ruling that the company plans to take its case to the Supreme Court, "which has an established historical record of protecting Americans' right to free speech."
    Under the law, TikTok will be banned unless ByteDance divests it by Jan. 19. The law also gives the U.S. government sweeping powers to ban other foreign-owned apps that could raise concerns about collection of Americans' data.

    The U.S. Justice Department argues "continued Chinese control of the TikTok application poses a continuing threat to national security."
    TikTok says the Justice Department has misstated the social media app's ties to China, arguing its content recommendation engine and user data are stored in the U.S. on cloud servers operated by Oracle (ORCL.N) while content moderation decisions that affect U.S. users are made in the United States.

    The decision - unless the Supreme Court reverses it - puts TikTok's fate first in the hands of Democratic President Joe Biden on whether to grant a 90-day extension of the Jan. 19 deadline to force a sale, and then of Republican President-elect Donald Trump, who takes office on Jan. 20.
    Trump, who unsuccessfully tried to ban TikTok during his first term in 2020, said before the November presidential election he would not allow the ban on TikTok.


    Also on Friday, the chair and top Democrat on a U.S. House of Representatives committee on China told the CEOs of Google-parent Alphabet (GOOGL.Othey must be ready to remove TikTok from their U.S. app stores on Jan. 19.
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    one of the nation's most popular speech platforms
    Oh fuck right off. Drivel platform more like.

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    TikTok makes app unavailable for U.S. users ahead of ban

    TikTok was not available for users in the U.S. on Saturday as a ban on the popular social media platform officially went into effect.


    TikTok greeted users opening the app Saturday night with the message, "Sorry, TikTok isn't available right now."

    "A law banning TikTok has been enacted in the U.S.," the message continued. "Unfortunately, that means you can't use TikTok for now. We are fortunate that President Trump has indicated that he will work with us on a solution to reinstate TikTok once he takes office. Please stay tuned!"


    A spokesperson for the Trump transition team did not immediately respond to a request for comment Saturday night about the app’s notification praising the president-elect specifically.


    The message then prompted users to close the app or learn more. On the website landing page, the message had an additional line informing users that they could still log in to download their data.


    The app also appeared to be removed from Apple and Google's app stores in the U.S., making it unavailable to download.


    TikTok has 170 million U.S. users.

    Other Bytedance apps including CapCut, Lemon8 and Gauth displayed similar messages and also became unavailable to many U.S. users Saturday evening.


    The shut down of TikTok follows several tense days of uncertainty for the app leading up to Sunday, when a ban on TikTok is supposed to go into effect in the United States.


    In April, President Joe Biden signed a law that mandated that TikTok's Chinese-owned parent company ByteDance sell TikTok to a non-Chinese owner, or TikTok would be banned. The Supreme Court upheld the law on Friday, paving the way for the app to shut down in the United States.

    But the Biden administration released a statement on Friday indicating that it would leave the law's enforcement up to the Trump administration. Since the law was made, it became deeply unpopular with users and many Americans, and many TikTok users began fleeing to Chinese social media apps.


    The Biden Administration's comments that it would not enforce the ban when it's set to take effect on Sunday created uncertainty about whether the app would be made unavailable or remain online for Americans.


    Lawmakers on both sides of the aisle have decried TikTok as a threat to national security because it is owned by a Chinese company. TikTok critics argued that the Chinese government could use the app to access Americans' data or influence the type of content Americans watched.


    But the company has pushed back on lawmakers' concerns, instead painting the looming ban as a free speech and censorship issue. TikTok CEO Shou Zi Chew has said that the app is safe and secure.


    The app's future is far from certain. Earlier on Saturday, President-elect Donald Trump told NBC News' Kristen Welker that he will "most likely" give the app a 90-day extension of the Sunday deadline for ByteDance to sell the app or have TikTok banned in the U.S.


    "The 90-day extension is something that will be most likely done, because it’s appropriate," Trump said.


    Trump has alternated on his stance on TikTok. In 2020 he said he wanted to ban the app. Years later, Trump reversed his position before making his own TikTok account during the 2024 presidential campaign. In one video, Trump said he would “save TikTok.”


    In a video message posted on TikTok Friday, Chew thanked Trump, saying the incoming president strongly supported TikTok. Chew cited Trump’s popularity on the app, where he is the most followed American politician, with over 14 million followers.


    Some TikTok users moved to rival social media platforms to commiserate over the app’s shutdown.

    The popular Liza Minnelli Outlives X account weighed in, alerting followers that the actress outlived the app, “forcing many people to find new ways to waste time.”


    One user compared TikTok to the Detroit Lions because they were both “eliminated by Washington.”


    Members of Trump’s administration remain divided over the app, with some, like incoming Federal Communications Commission Chair Brendan Carr, advocating against Chinese influence over the app, while others, like unofficial government spending overseer Elon Musk, are pushing for TikTok to remain available on the basis of free speech.


    On Friday, Trump posted on Truth Social: “The Supreme Court decision was expected, and everyone must respect it. My decision on TikTok will be made in the not-too-distant future, but I must have time to review the situation. Stay tuned!”


    One way TikTok could comply with the law and stay active in the U.S. is if it negotiates a sale of the app to an American owner. Trump could maintain Biden’s decision not to enforce the law, but it’s unclear how long that would hold.


    Users on TikTok have mourned the app’s potential downfall earlier this week, with many top creators making compilations of their most viral moments on the app or asking their followers to follow them on other platforms. Many TikTok users have flooded a Chinese app called RedNote in protest of the government, but it poses an even greater security threat than TikTok, according to experts who spoke with NBC News.

    TikTok makes app unavailable for U.S. users ahead of ban



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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    TikTok makes app unavailable for U.S. users ahead of ban
    Ohhh Man. Think of those few that will lose it being a social media site is banned. They could ban a long laundry list of sites as far as I am concerned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stumpy View Post
    They could ban a long laundry list of sites as far as I am concerned.
    Do they involve the Chinese government, or is it just because people you don't like use them? Sounds a bit authoritarian to be honest.

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    Tiktok knew that this was coming for months and months. They did nothing. All they had to do was share their algorithm with the feds to prove it was not controlled by the CCP. They refused.

    Good fucking ridance.

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    I read about a 30 year old female "influencer" on tiktok, the type that had never done a single day of honest productive work yet in their life, she was completely devastated over the closure. "I had 230.00 followers, I have lost my community, what shall I do now?"`
    "There is no greater disaster than greed." - Lao Tzu

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    Quote Originally Posted by Molle View Post
    what shall I do now?"
    Seek alternative employment?
    From Moses keep taking the tablets to The dead see scrolls I'd sooner be here with Stumpy MsKit , Norts, Balders and Mendy Looper Chitty and this happy band of muffas

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stumpy View Post
    Ohhh Man. Think of those few that will lose it being a social media site is banned. They could ban a long laundry list of sites as far as I am concerned.
    Teak door is a social media site Mr better than everyone else

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    That didn’t last long.

    ‘This Was All a Stunt’: TikTok Trolled for Coming Back Online Hours After Shutdown

    TikTok announced it would restore access to the app to more than 170 million Americans on Sunday, hours after President-elect Donald Trump promised to grant its parent company a short reprieve from a national ban.


    In a note posted to X, it thanked Trump for agreeing not to enforce the ban.

    “In agreement with our service providers, TikTok is in the process of restoring service,” it wrote from its policy X account. “We thank President Trump for providing the necessary clarity and assurance to our service providers that they will face no penalties providing TikTok to over 170 million Americans and allowing over 7 million small businesses to thrive.”


    TikTok completed its effusive praise for Trump in a notice to users when they open the app. “Thanks for your patience and support,” the notice read. “As a result of President Trump’s efforts, TikTok is back in the U.S.!”


    The move came after Trump wrote he would sign an executive order on Monday delaying the enforcement of a law that demands ByteDance, TikTok’s China-based owner, sell the app over national security concerns. He also promised tech companies there would be “no liability” should they restore access to the app and its services before his order was signed.

    “Americans deserve to see our exciting Inauguration on Monday, as well as other events and conversations,” he wrote.


    A solution he proposed was a joint venture between the U.S. and “the current owners and/or new owners,” allowing the platform to stay active. “By doing this, we save TikTok, keep it in good hands and allow it to say up,” he wrote. “Without U.S. approval, there is no Tik Tok.”


    TikTok said on Sunday it “will work with President Trump on a long-term solution that keeps TikTok in the United States.”

    Users were split under the post over its lavish praise of the president-elect. Some lauded Trump for his public efforts in getting the app back online while others blasted the app for capitulating to a politician who initially wanted it banned years ago.

    “this was all a stunt to make trump look good,” one poster wrote.


    “It’s been less than 24 hours and you’re already coming back? Y’all have no shame,” another poster responded. “All of this has just been a wasted attempt to try to make Trump look better.”

    ‘This Was All a Stunt’: TikTok Trolled for Coming Back Online Hours After Shutdown

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