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    Google suspends Parler app

    Google has suspended "free speech" social network Parler from its Play Store over its failure to remove "egregious content".

    Parler styles itself as "unbiased" social media and has proved popular with people banned from Twitter.

    But Google said the app had failed to remove posts inciting violence.

    Apple has also warned Parler it will remove the app from its App Store if it does not comply with its content-moderation requirements.

    On Parler, the app's chief executive John Matze said: "We won't cave to politically motivated companies and those authoritarians who hate free speech!"

    It briefly became the most-downloaded app in the United States after the US election, following a clampdown on the spread of election misinformation by Twitter and Facebook.

    However, both Apple and Google have said the app fails to comply with content-moderation requirements.

    In a statement, Google confirmed it had suspended Parler from its Play Store, saying: "Our longstanding policies require that apps displaying user-generated content have moderation policies and enforcement that removes egregious content like posts that incite violence.

    "In light of this ongoing and urgent public safety threat, we are suspending the app's listings from the Play Store until it addresses these issues."



    More here:
    Google suspends '''free speech''' app Parler - BBC News

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    ... with its content-moderation requirements.

    Nev
    , your Mod/Admin skills can be used at a higher level


























    I'm gonna pay for that ...

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    I'm long retired from that game, Dave.


    And I've never used Parler. Not my scene. Is it a post Boomer thing? Or Gen-x? Millenials? Post Millenials?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    I'm long retired from that game, Dave.


    And I've never used Parler. Not my scene. Is it a post Boomer thing? Or Gen-x? Millenials? Post Millenials?
    It's a trumpanzee thing.

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    Nev, I'm just happy they are slowly being chocked down ...

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    Trump fans are flocking to the social media app Parler — its CEO is begging liberals to join them




    Key Points
    • Parler’s user base has grown to 1.5 million from 1 million in about a week, CEO John Matze said.
    • Republican politicians and conservative pundits have flocked to the app, in large part to protest what they say is unfair censorship by Twitter.
    • “If you can say it on the street of New York, you can say it on Parler,” Matze said.



    Parler CEO wants liberal to join the pro-Trump crowd on the app

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    Where do we draw the line on Freedom of Speech? I have always felt you can voice an opinion without retribution. When does it not become Freedom of Speech? There has to be boundaries. What Trump did in my opinion was not Freedom of Speech. He used his power and authority to encourage people to attack the government he so adamantly says he is trying to save. His actions do not support that.

    I am in agreement with the social media platforms banning or stopping messages that might lead to violence, personal injury or property damage. That is not freedom of speech, that is basic domestic terrorism.

    The American people use the Freedom of Speech claim as a way to support piss poor behavior. It's bullshit and a cop out.

    I say arrest Trump. Of all people he should know that he has to be held accountable to a higher level due to his position.

    And on a side note, I wish that asshat Trump would stop saying 70Mil people voted for him. I would venture to say that many voted republican because that's the party they support and didn't like Trump. He makes it seem like he has 70million supporters. Trump probably only has a 3rd of that and most are uneducated, low income, red neck lemmings that sit on the porch in their white trailer trash neighborhood shooting guns off the porch at beer cans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    However, both Apple and Google have said the app fails to comply with content-moderation requirements.
    The same applies to all 'clients'.

    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    What a surprise...
    The surprise is that you believe you've understood anything

    Quote Originally Posted by JPPR2 View Post
    Where do we draw the line on Freedom of Speech?
    True, but in this case/these cases the platforms are private, not public so this much-vaunted American-style belief in 'freedom of speech' or freedom of expression don't apply.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    True, but in this case/these cases the platforms are private, not public so this much-vaunted American-style belief in 'freedom of speech' or freedom of expression don't apply.
    I fully understand its a fine line and just who determines that line? Some of what Trump tweeted I think fits well within the bounds of freedom speech (as juvenile and as petty as they were). Much of it though however is where I say he crossed that "Imaginary" line and this is where some social media platforms protecting their businesses banned him. I would have done the same because we all know that Americans love to sue and blame people and had they not taken action I absolutely guarantee that some crack pot lawyer would file a lawsuit saying that because they took no action to stop his tweets or posts that they are liable for the deaths and property damage

    This will always be a huge debate and those few that always push the boundaries and get arrested fall back on the "But its my right of Freedom of Speech".

    Regardless Trump was wrong and he lead that mob using his authority saying " Its Ok, I am the President of the United States". He might stand he did not tell them to storm the capitol but we all know he never said, "Lets have a peaceful protest and that violence, property destruction will not be tolerated and all caught will be arrested and charged". Instead he said "I will march with you ( which the coward never did). One thing in the US, When there is a lack of leadership people will follow anyone that steps to the plate. right or wrong. Its the mindless lemmings effect. Trump was clearly out of bounds and he knows it. He has become unhinged.

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    In the US context most people don't understand that 1A rights applies only to the government not private entities--it just gets conflated.

    Same applies most other countries too except for maybe not enshrined in the same way.


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    ^
    i agree with all of that.

    but i wonder if this alphabet/parler situation is different .....and bear with me because we're straying into the law and technology, so i'm venturing out of my depth....

    85% of smartphone are android......if google bans parler from the app store, then no one with an android phone can download the app, right?
    i know that you can fuck around with the settings and download the apk file somehow, but won't this impact your warranty?
    it seems to me like alphabet might be on thin ice here.

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    I agree Ray, however it was also banned from Apple users as well.

    There will always be those that claim these free enterprises are biased and maybe in many ways they are but someone has to make an unpopular call. Speaking from a business point of view, I still think Google, Twitter, Instagram and Facebook figured it was much easier to have people bitch about Freedom of Speech then wait for endless lawsuits that might be on the horizon due to his tweets and posts.

    And along with you I am not an attorney and these are just my opinions as a business professional. I have no horse in this race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    then no one with an android phone can download the app, right?
    Incorrect. There are plenty of apps that are not in the play store. You simply navigate to a website and download the apk.

    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    but won't this impact your warranty?
    That is incorrect. It will not affect anything.


    The key thing is that most of those trumpanzees will not be able to figure any of that out. So even though it is very simple to install apps that are not on the play store Parlor is fucked because well tumpanzees.

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    ^ Yup
    One doesn't need Apples App Store nor Google Play store to download apps. These two platforms simply require that certain conditions are met if you want to list on them. The same conditions apply to all apps.

    There is no loss of warranty.

    Again - both are privately owned entities and can decide who the will and who they will not accept on their platform.

    Public entities also don't guarantee 'freedom of speech/expression' as there are also a whole bunch of categories that are curtailed; hate speech, incitement (Trump), obscenity, fraud, child pornography, violation of IP law etc....


    So, no. Nothing anywhere guarantees unlimited freedom of expression, especially in private entities.

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    Stolen from Twitter:


    Conservatives: LET THE FREE MARKET DECIDE
    Free market: *decides*
    Conservatives: this is outRAGEOUS!


    To anyone complaining about a private media company kicking Trump off their platform:think of Twitter as a Christian bakery and Trump as a gay wedding cake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Nothing anywhere guarantees unlimited freedom of expression, especially in private entities.
    Exactly right. They are private businesses and such can have their own requirements. You "agree" when you sign up.

    I would love to see Trump start his own site. Firstly he will be disappointed as he will quickly find out how many "Supporters" he really has. Then when he sees the quality and the content of these catfish noodling cretins he will realize that his follower base are likely meth heads looking for something to do. He will also then get to see what people really think of him because I guarantee you there will be a lot more "You are a fucking Idiot" posts then anyone who cares that he lost the election and it was all a set up. I say "Come on Trump you insecure loser. Set up a website"

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Incorrect. There are plenty of apps that are not in the play store. You simply navigate to a website and download the apk.
    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    One doesn't need Apples App Store nor Google Play store to download apps. These two platforms simply require that certain conditions are met if you want to list on them. The same conditions apply to all apps.

    There is no loss of warranty.
    OK, thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPPR2 View Post
    Exactly right. They are private businesses and such can have their own requirements. You "agree" when you sign up.
    The same thing applies to the idiots who try to go to Costco, Home Depot or that shithole Walmart. They are PRIVATE businesses and they do not have to let you in.

    Shit when I was a kid in the eighties my grandpa used to take me to McDonald's. The sign on the door clearly said "no shoes, no shirt, no service". No mask is the same thing you dumb trumpanzee fucktards.

    Updated for today....


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    Quote Originally Posted by JPPR2 View Post
    I agree Ray, however it was also banned from Apple users as well.

    There will always be those that claim these free enterprises are biased and maybe in many ways they are but someone has to make an unpopular call. Speaking from a business point of view, I still think Google, Twitter, Instagram and Facebook figured it was much easier to have people bitch about Freedom of Speech then wait for endless lawsuits that might be on the horizon due to his tweets and posts.

    And along with you I am not an attorney and these are just my opinions as a business professional. I have no horse in this race.
    Speaking from a stating the bloody obvious point of view: With baldy orange loser having just failed to remove the legal protections enjoyed by Twatter, Facetube et al (in his case, simply out of spite), I'm pretty sure they are terrified that if they'd let these gibbering trumpanzees continue to paste their hate speech, the Biden administration would probably seek to do it themselves.

    So they have responded accordingly.

    Added: It's called Section 230.

    What is Section 230 and why does Trump want it revoked? | The Independent

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    It gets better. Someone has spotted that Parler is hosted on AWS and people are reporting it for violation of their terms of service.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JPPR2 View Post
    I wish that asshat Trump would stop saying 70Mil people voted for him. I would venture to say that many voted republican because that's the party they support and didn't like Trump. He makes it seem like he has 70million supporters.
    There is another possibility how to explain why the 70M (or whatever the figure was) voted for GOP? Not because of their love to Trump, nor to the love to GOP party.

    But against Biden and his Melody Boys (and Girls) and his (and their) "hard work" for American people over 2 generations.

    So, the figures for Trump are quite impressive, despite that he could not prove what he had done for the American people as the others are claiming over 47 years.

    And despite the general dislike for his personality.

    And despite the huge propaganda effort against him over 4 years, impeachment, demonising, Russiamania, special voting effort, censorship, you name it.

    So, the "landslide" for the old Joe is really impressive, isn't it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Incorrect. There are plenty of apps that are not in the play store. You simply navigate to a website and download the apk.



    That is incorrect. It will not affect anything.


    The key thing is that most of those trumpanzees will not be able to figure any of that out. So even though it is very simple to install apps that are not on the play store Parlor is fucked because well tumpanzees.

    it kills the business model. Being banned form the stores. Full govt regulation is coming

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPPR2 View Post
    I wish that asshat Trump would stop saying 70Mil people voted for him. I would venture to say that many voted republican because that's the party they support and didn't like Trump.
    If you vote for Trump, you own him.

    He is yours; now way around it

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    Quote Originally Posted by helge View Post
    If you vote for Trump, you own him.

    He is yours; now way around it
    Yup. He represented the GOP. A vote for the GOP was a vote for Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    So, the figures for Trump are quite impressive
    Oh Yeah. Trump Made America Great again. Just look at the current state of affairs. It's an embarrassing time for our country. I think Trump supporters need to take a big step back, take a deep breath for fresh air so their brain has plenty of oxygen and be honest with themselves.

    I will say it wasn't that Trump didn't do some good things, it was his attitude and juvenile behavior and as his term ends he is ratcheting up his nonsense like a poor loser would in grade school. Is that really the type of leader we want and all of this while the virus takes lives and cripples our economy. Trump a Leader.....I think not!

    I also want to be clear that I am not a Biden supporter. I think he is too old but like every election we really only get 3 choices, 1 from each party and none of the above. I have no doubt that many voted republican as they did not like Biden. Biden also didn't have 75mil supporters. Maybe half that. People either voted Democrat or against Trump.

    Frankly I just look forward to some political professionalism and rational behavior. It will be nice to not see that bubble headed bleach blond Trump mouth piece on the news and Trump acting like a child. He can go back to his reality TV Show life with his call girl wife and he can focus on his laundry list of lawsuits he has waiting for him.

    I am glad Social Media banned him.

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