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    Slsipstreamed XP CDs (those torrents and other crap you get for 100 baht) are notorious for being headaches (which is exactly the point I've been trying to emphasize here) The fake XP installs contain all kinds of shit like bad drivers and result in the problems you are experiencing because you are installing things which are not intended for your exact system.

    For example, there are several ADI chipsets on current motherboards. Someone has an ABIT motherboard, creates a slipstream for that ADI sound chip, and then uses the slipstream to make a torrent. Torrent gets downloaded and passed on to you on a CD (unknow to you). You end up with the wrong drivers and during the XP install the driver stack and the registry get hosed because XP automatically is told to install the wrong files (which is what slipstreaming is all about).

    I make my own slipstream CDs but ONLY include Intel chipset drivers, Intel network drivers, and NVIDIA/ATI drivers. I never install VIA chipset drivers on an XP system because there's no reason to.

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    Please post the Device Manager>Sound devices if you can.

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    Also, post an image of the root directory of your XP CD.

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    ^So, what do you recommend I do now?

    USB works, sound works, but I need a driver for Ethernet.

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    Isn't there a network driver on the ASUS CD?

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    Quote Originally Posted by surasak
    Please post the Device Manager>Sound devices if you can.
    Networking isn't working yet, so:

    Sound, Video and game controllers:

    Audio Codecs
    Legacy Audio Drivers
    Legacy Video Capture Devices
    Media Control Devices
    Microsoft UAA Function Driver for High Definition Audio - Adi 1986
    Video Codecs

    Quote Originally Posted by surasak
    Also, post an image of the root directory of your XP CD.
    boing:/volumes/WXPVOL_EN mnewman$ ls -la
    total 3496
    drwxr-xr-x 1 mnewman staff 2048 Feb 8 2006 $OEM$
    drwxr-xr-x 1 mnewman staff 2048 Jan 1 1970 .
    drwxrwxrwt 9 root admin 306 Aug 1 13:52 ..
    -rwxr-xr-x 1 mnewman staff 110 Aug 23 2001 AUTORUN.INF
    drwxr-xr-x 1 mnewman staff 2048 Nov 30 2005 DOCS
    drwxr-xr-x 1 mnewman staff 331776 Feb 8 2006 I386
    drwxr-xr-x 1 mnewman staff 2048 Feb 8 2006 OEM
    -rwxr-xr-x 1 mnewman staff 34301 Jul 17 2004 README.HTM
    -rwxr-xr-x 1 mnewman staff 1314816 Aug 3 2004 SETUP.EXE
    -rwxr-xr-x 1 mnewman staff 85792 Jul 17 2004 SETUPXP.HTM
    drwxr-xr-x 1 mnewman staff 2048 Nov 30 2005 SUPPORT
    drwxr-xr-x 1 mnewman staff 2048 Feb 8 2006 VALUEADD
    -rwxr-xr-x 1 mnewman staff 10 Aug 23 2001 WIN51
    -rwxr-xr-x 1 mnewman staff 10 Aug 23 2001 WIN51IP
    -rwxr-xr-x 1 mnewman staff 2 Aug 3 2004 WIN51IP.SP2
    drwxr-xr-x 1 mnewman staff 2048 Nov 30 2005 cmpnents

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    Quote Originally Posted by lom
    Isn't there a network driver on the ASUS CD?
    Yes, but you recommended I not install that until I got the SoundMAX driver working.

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    Install the VIA (or appropriate) network driver. If there isn't one then the VIA chipset installed should allow a custom install of only the network driver.

    As an aside here's my slipstream XP CD and a real XP CD compared. Just for fun see if you have some of the similar folders on your XP CD as in the left of the image.


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    Btw, ASUS and MSI (Microstar) are my favourite motherboard brands.
    Both of them has a Windows program which checks your drivers against what is available on their websites and let's you dl and update with the most resent version.

    This program should be included on the ASUS CD, Updater or something similar. Install it !

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    Better yet see if you have a "WINNT.SIF" file in the I386 directory on your CD. Typically it will have something like the following:

    OemPnPDriversPath="Drivers\Chipset\Intel;Drivers\C hipset\Nvidia;Drivers\Video\Nvidia;Drivers\Video\A TI;Drivers\Video\Intel\Win2000;Drivers\Lan\Intel\P RO1000\WINXP32;"

    If there's an ADI component in there then it might be the problem (the aforementioned path loads your own drivers from the CD and bypasses any drivers provided by Microsoft).
    Last edited by man with no head; 01-08-2007 at 02:04 PM.

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    So, if you double click on Microsoft UAA Function Driver for High Definition Audio - Adi 1986 in device manager and checks it's properties, is there a Mixer and a Midi device?

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    Quote Originally Posted by buad hai
    Yes, but you recommended I not install that until I got the SoundMAX driver working.
    Yes, better to get the problematic device fully working before taking care of the others.

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    I can install the network driver by itself. Should I install the SoundMAX driver or not?

    BTW, I looked at the $OEM$ directory. It appears that all of the drivers are in the BTS package, including some VIA drivers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lom
    So, if you double click on Microsoft UAA Function Driver for High Definition Audio - Adi 1986 in device manager and checks it's properties, is there a Mixer and a Midi device?
    Yes, indeed.

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    I really, really, really hate people who distribute slipstreamed CDs that have more than only Microsoft's patches/service packs inserted. I don't even give copies of mine out to people here.

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    So, at this point some sound functions work and others don't?

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    Here it is:

    Quote Originally Posted by WINNT.SIF
    [Data]
    MsDosInitiated = "No"
    UnattendedInstall="Yes"

    [Unattended]
    OemPreinstall = "Yes"

    UnattendMode=DefaultHide
    FileSystem=*
    OemSkipEula=Yes
    Repartition=No
    WaitForReboot="No"

    [GuiUnattended]
    OEMSkipRegional=1
    OemSkipWelcome=1
    AdminPassword=*
    TimeZone=0

    [Display]
    AutoConfirm=1
    ; BitsPerPel = 32
    ; Xresolution = 800
    ; Yresolution = 600
    ; Vrefresh = 85

    [UserData]
    FullName="owner"
    OrgName="Microsoft"
    ComputerName=WIN2006
    ProductKey=XP8BF-F8HPF-PY6BX-K24PJ-TWT6M

    [Identification]
    JoinWorkgroup

    [Networking]
    InstallDefaultComponents=Yes

    [RegionalSettings]
    Language=00000409

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    I would look in Add/Remove programs to see if there's any uninstallers for the sound before continuing. Also you could try going to the sound device properties > driver and either roll back driver or uninstall prior to installing the correct one. It sound like you've got a similar but not entirely correct driver installed from the bogus XP CD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buad hai
    Yes, indeed.
    Well, then you should also have a mixer icon on the desktop status line.
    Or a speaker ico. Most likely Microsofts simple mixer at this stage.
    A more fancy mixer should appear after you have installed SoundMax from the ASUS CD.
    But, you should already at this stage be able to control volume with the Microsoft one..

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    How about the path $OEM$\$1\install? Anything in there? Typically post-install applications and driver installs can be automatically installed using a batch file from this location.

    You definately have what's called an 'unattended install' CD. Bad news.

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    Quote Originally Posted by surasak
    So, at this point some sound functions work and others don't?
    My goal here was to get WinAmp to work. I haven't tried it yet because MtD said I should install the chipset driver before running WinAmp. So far, he was the only one who was right that reinstalling Windows would restore the sound. So, I hesitate to go against his advice about running WinAmp. (It makes no sense to me, but neither did reinstalling Windows.)

    As a favor, I will also get networking running. I sense that will be easy compared to getting the sound running....

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    Quote Originally Posted by surasak
    How about the path $OEM$/$1/install? Anything in there? Typically post-install applications and driver installs can be automatically installed using a batch file from this location.
    Yes, that's were the BTS stuff is which installs vendor specific drivers.

    Quote Originally Posted by lom
    Well, then you should also have a mixer icon on the desktop status line.
    Or a speaker ico.
    It has a speaker icon, but neither the volume control nor the mute button work.

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    It's not always a given that a non-destructive reinstall (what you just did) would fix driver issues. Normally on a 'new' machine I would simply reformat and install rather than bother with a repair install.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buad hai
    It has a speaker icon, but neither the volume control nor the mute button work.
    So install the Soundmax then and hope it takes care of it....

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    You may call it non-destructive, but everything that had been installed (other programs, etc.) was completely removed. And, the file system was changed from FAT32 to HFS. I think I had an option to replace everything in the /Windows directory and that's what I told it to do.

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