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    Thanks Balders you seem knowlegeable,How could I find out ?
    Will it be a program of registery key or what?

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    windows 10 is free for one year Dave, after that you will have to pay for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dillinger View Post
    windows 10 is free for one year Dave, after that you will have to pay for it.
    How much please?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    To a large degree Badders is correct. It is a con, it is forced upon you, it totally dominates your experience and personal data and financial activity - and, yes, Microsoft just wanna make even more money by controlling even more things and making sure everyone complies.

    You will be paying, every year for various licences and if you don't then apps will be stopped. It's as simple as that.

    I pay for my own Microsoft office, $100 annually and that is what they want everyone to do for the rest of their lives; it's criminal - their profits will be even more massive than before. They also wanna control your purse and transactions and link everything, as Badders says, just like Google and iApple. If you're happy being their bitch and paying up and doing as your told that's fine...

    I download win10 on my work computer (which shouldn't actually have been possible as I don't have the right administrator level passwords, etc, but MS did it anyways; not sure how), and now every time I attempt to load up an office doc it just crashes; obviously the company don't have original sw license. I'm in South Korea and MS have been sued for this a couple of years ago, but they simply don't care... If you want to suck MS cock and claim they deserve to have this right and that right then go ahead and drone on; the simple fact of the matter, to me, is that the corporations are globally invading your space ignoring laws around the world time after time for the sake of their corporate profit. They are cnuts...
    Thanks for reiterating, Bets, as the coin has dropped for some and others haven't waken from their induced slumber as of yet regarding the real evils and agenda of Microsoft.

    The bastards are not our friends nor benevolent as they promote themselves to be.
    I'm akin with the likes of you, Baldrick, and others who are finding the light.

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    Quote Originally Posted by david44 View Post
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    windows 10 is free for one year Dave, after that you will have to pay for it.
    How much please?
    They are not saying.

    Upgrade to Windows 10: FAQ - Windows Help

    because they are utter scum.

    However, the benchmark will be with their other subscription costs which are all targeted based upon how much they think they can screw out of you on the monthly basis. If it is less that $150 USD a year I will eat my hat.

    They are also putting pop up adverts into areas of the windows fuktperience and you have to pay $10 a year on games to turn them off etc.

    Avoid like the plague, or load it, and use the free year to get used to the true free platforms as mentioned above like ubuntu etxc.

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    My new mini-notebook came with W10 preinstalled.

    It's shite.

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    Oh, and had agreed to the free upgrade from W7 for an older com before, it crashed the system.
    Had W7 reinstalled pronto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dillinger View Post
    windows 10 is free for one year Dave, after that you will have to pay for it.
    That's very white of Mr. Gates.
    Wolf in sheep's garments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thaimeme View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dillinger View Post
    windows 10 is free for one year Dave, after that you will have to pay for it.
    That's very white of Mr. Gates.
    Wolf in sheep's garments.

    Free for one year, but it can be used as long as the computer lasts. With a new computer after that you need to buy a license unless it comes with the computer.

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    FYI: MS wants to kill Win7 and Win 8 in eggsackery 1 year's time:

    It's curtains for Windows 7 PCs from OEMs come October 2016
    In a year's time, all PCs will have Windows 10 preinstalled...

    ...Microsoft has finally put a firm deadline on the time which OEMs can sell PCs with Windows 7 preinstalled, and that deadline is October 31, 2016...

    ...Windows 8.1 will also be banned from OEM machines as of October 31 next year, so from that point, all PCs will come with Windows 10 pre-installed (and probably for quite some time into the future, if Microsoft's promises about Windows as a Service are true going forward).

    It's curtains for Windows 7 PCs from OEMs come October 2016 | TechRadar
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    OEM installs are shite anyway - bloated with crapware and trialware

    the only thing that will fcuk win 7 is the drivers for the hardware not being available from the OEMs websites

    it took me 4 months before I coud change win 8.1 to win 7 on my new asus as the drivers were not there - the nvidia card one was the critical one whichalways provoked the BSOD
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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    OEM installs are shite anyway - bloated with crapware and trialware

    the only thing that will fcuk win 7 is the drivers for the hardware not being available from the OEMs websites

    it took me 4 months before I coud change win 8.1 to win 7 on my new asus as the drivers were not there - the nvidia card one was the critical one whichalways provoked the BSOD
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    Quote Originally Posted by stroller View Post
    My new mini-notebook came with W10 preinstalled.

    It's shite.
    I agree on my machine and many others Windows 10 deleted the partition with the result I had to re-install the operating system. Luckily I bought the recovery disks when I bought the machine. No need to listen to me a friend who has a computer repair business has his engineer busy with no end of machines that has suffered the same fate - the issue won't be specific to his business only.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo
    In a year's time, all PCs will have Windows 10 preinstalled...
    ...Microsoft has finally put a firm deadline on the time which OEMs can sell PCs with Windows 7 preinstalled, and that deadline is October 31, 2016...
    I am surprised it takes that long. But the end of WIN 7 will come when they stop supporting it with updates. That is a while yet. Remember that they stopped supporting Win XP only recently.

    WIN 10 will be installed only on complete PC sold with OS. I have not bought a full PC that way for over 10 years. Always assembled them by myself. But I will install WIN 7 on my next PC and then do the free upgrade. Until then I will stick with WIN 7.
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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick
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    YES! *pimpslapped*

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    My understanding was the upgrade would e free forever for those who upgrade from a genuine 8/8.1in the first year?

    I assumed this was an incentive to create critical mass.

    Pseudolus claims we'll all have to pay, Who is right?

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    ^ You will not have to pay unless you get a new computer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by david44
    My understanding was the upgrade would e free forever for those who upgrade from a genuine 8/8.1in the first year?
    Yes, free until that computer is replaced. I understand you cannot reinstall it on a new one after the one year has passed. But not only WIN 8, WIN 7 is also valid for update. I am running WIN 7 and the update icon is there.

    Since Win 7 is only 20€ in the EU upgrade from WIN 7 is the cheapest way to WIN 10 during that year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    The lightest and most efficient Windows OS yet. It could be the best OS Microsoft had released to date. Loving it.

    Quote Originally Posted by hazz
    Really you do not have a huge choice as microsoft are very keen to get everybody on to this
    You always have a choice. There is always Linux.
    that's not much of a choice if you want to stay with windows is it.

    Personally I have always been disappointed with linux as a desktop os ever since i started using it in 1992 with X10.... possibly the worst windows system ever distributed.

    Ive found the osx and windows have always delivered better desktop experiances simply because nobody is preperted to put the manpower into making the desktop teh polished product that android, windows and osx have become.

    if you do not like windows 8, there is no point upgrading to 10, simply stick to 7, as butters sticks to xp.

    If you want to move to osx, that works well... but its going to take as much getting used to as windows 8/10 if your a pc user... so why not out the effort in.

    linux is also an option, but the problem is that gui is not that great and often you find your self working to linux the to work rather than using the computer as platform to getting things done
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    will os/x work on a windows configured computer ?

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    there is a thing called hackingtosh, running osx on standard pc hardware using the same components used in apples laptops. It works well, but takes soem effort to get up and running. I was running one for about 2 years.

    osx running under vmware fusion or workstation is more than a little slow and unresponsive

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    Quote Originally Posted by david44 View Post
    will os/x work on a windows configured computer ?
    FFS Just install 10 and be done with it. You can disable all of the data sharing it does with MS if you are paranoid about it. Not that hard to do. I have turned off all of the apps and cortina. It will not ask you for any credit card information whatsoever.

    If you think you will be safer somehow staying on 7 you are kidding yourself as MS has installed the same data collection on it as well.

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    I'm not on 7 Thanks for the wide vareity of opinions, so it seems there is no consensus, I'll keep looking perhaps the later updates will be better,cost and privacy are not my concerns a stale durable configuration is good

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    You will be paying, every year for various licences and if you don't then apps will be stopped. It's as simple as that.
    You sure about that? See here; No, Windows 10 Won?t Require a Subscription: Here?s How Microsoft Plans on Making Money Instead

    additionally; http://www.pcgamer.com/microsoft-win...-subscription/
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