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Got to admit I am not sure that you can alter the size of a partition once it is in, ok I know you can add more partitions if you want to but that aint gonna do you any good, maybe a reformat and reinstall of Ubunta? probably best to wait till frankie see'e this.
Menu driven - cfdisk But you better know what you're doing also specify the drive you are working on on the command line if you have multiple hard drives
^Thanks, only have the one hard drive but I'll back up my stuff and give it a whirl anyways. Do I have to do a wipe and reinstall or can I just enlarge the current partition?
I'd wipe the thing start over set a partition up for "/" then one for "/usr/local" one for "/home" Home is where the data goes /usr/local is where althe extras you install go "/" will contain things like /bin /sbin /opt & /var "/usr" and all it's sub dirs except "/usr/local" Give your self some room, more than just the install of the OS as these dir shrink and grow. You'll need a swap partition too.
My system as it sits now:
Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/sda1 11535344 3808216 7141160 35% /
/dev/sda3 24027656 891212 21915908 4% /usr/local <-(What's up on the math here?)
/dev/mapper/home_vg-lvhome 442211584 61547160 358201348 15% /home
This is inaccurate as I have about 1 Gb on /usr/local it was empty two when I started a couple weeks ago
the /home partition is a logical volume made up of all the left over room on my primary drive and all the space on my other 250GB drive I can add another drive or two as needed.
as you can see I have plenty of room to grow on my root partition but I never install stuff there. I removed a lot of packages during the installation and added the versions I preferred to /usr/local part. This is where I install All my software I do not use a package manager so have this option. I am not sure where the various package mangers install added software packages if they go for places like /usr" or "/opt" you may want to allocate more space depending on what you want to do.
If you;re up for downloading source and compiling your own you can set your own destination they usually default to "/usr/local" This is the sys-admns playground :D where he will install anything not bundled with the OS. I gave myself way too much room but I tend to fuck around with a lot of different apps.
I set this up manually at the command line but there are GUIs that allow you to do the same thing, Not so sure abut them though...
I am not sure of where the package manager installs shit it may go for "/opt" or directly under "/usr" this would indicate a need for a much larger root("/") partition if you like to play with software installs.
Now that you're totally confused try an install and let the install program recommend a setup for you. it will typically include a logical volume group and logical volume this wil allow for future growth. most distros I've seen want a "/boot" partition You'll notice I don't have one.
The "/" partition needs to be a primary partition it must mount before any drivers or kernel modules can load. plan for the install size then add a bit (double would be good) for future growth, temp files, proc files mail spooler, print spooler, etc.
I previously made /var a separate partition and for a print/mail server It's a good idea, as this is where those spoolers go as well as system logs. For a single workstation don;t worry too much about it, but if the install says "This is install requires a minimum of 4.3 GB on "/" or something like that, give it 10 or 12 or 15 depending how precious disk space is.
So much has been written on partitioning schemes you can look and find a hundred different ideas on it. I could chase my tail for hours with all the different scenarios available and there appropriate-ness to different OSs and usages. I am shit at writing instructions or documentation.
Just remember to leave your self room for expansion and additional applications and, of course, data. Separate your core OS/basic apps, optional-addon applications, and data. Give each one the room to grow set your data area up as a logical volume so you can add more space as needed and you should be OK.
Here's a quick question that needs to be explained in very simplistic terms so I understand it, how comes I can't delete stuff from my other hard drives on this pc? Pretty sure I could a few days ago. I got 3 hard drives on here, the ubunta one I can delete stuff on, the other 2 I can't.
I assume you're asking about ntfs (WINDOZE) drives?
There was driver that allowed you write access to ntfs drives (deleting is just another form of writing but I read they discontinued it). Not sure where that is right now in development but if you actually deleted from ntfs partitions while they were mounted under ubuntu then you were logged in as root most likely. I am pretty sure you need to be the superuser to make changes to the windows partitions make sure you're logged in as root
or type "su" at the command line and then the root password.
This will only be good for the session you are in type exit to log out of hte superuser mode
If not then I wonder if the NTFS driver got automatically updated to a newer version that does not support write. or if the fstab file got updated for you :D
There are two drivers available you can read but them at the links below
www.linux-ntfs.org - Home
The standard driver is explained here: NTFS FAQ (en)
In particular, sections 4 & 6 might be of interest.
Ok how bout this idea, I do remember reading about the write delete stuff, and now I also remember I just copied files to another pc and didn't delete them, I also remember it asking me about mounting my drives, not sure if I did or didn't, suppose I must have done as it hasn't asked me since, anyway back to my great idea :) turn off pc, disconnect extra hard drives, boot etc, turn off reconnect hard drives, not agree to mounting, then I would have write delete access etc?
HUH??? :D
If the drive weren't mounted you would'nt have ANY access ;)
go to the command prompt and type "df" hit enter paste what you get here.
Now I am assuming command prompt=Konsole.
Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/hda1 36985736 3382720 31724216 10% /
varrun 257992 220 257772 1% /var/run
varlock 257992 0 257992 0% /var/lock
procbususb 257992 148 257844 1% /proc/bus/usb
udev 257992 148 257844 1% /dev
devshm 257992 0 257992 0% /dev/shm
lrm 257992 33788 224204 14% /lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/volatile
/dev/hdd 4571552 4571552 0 100% /media/cdrom0
/dev/sda5 96237348 94598264 1639084 99% /media/D Drive
OK that's you're root partitionQuote:
Originally Posted by dirtydog
But this stuff Notice anything strange?
I'm thinking this is one external drive might be mistaken but why there is a mount for the shared memory (/dev/shm) /var/run and /var/lock is beyonbd me if this is three different hard drives all exactly the same size you're wasting space bu tthey look like virtual drives to me and as fucked up as that looks I'm not gonna worry about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by dirtydog
I think read abut a bug in ubuntu regarding something along these lines
Ok your CD rom:
and this I ssume is the wiondoze drive?Quote:
Originally Posted by dirtydog
There is only one windows partition mounted don;t know about all that stuff up near the top though seems kinda weird to me. looks like a usb device with 256 Mb ram or mayb three of 'em or ramdisks? That's just a plain weird setup.Quote:
Originally Posted by dirtydog
Windows drive Looks kinda full. :D
So the drive is mounted you should be able to cd to "/mnt/D Drive" (spaces in unix file names jesus!)
first at teh console type "whoami" if it says root OK if not 'su' to root
now type "touch test.touch" This should create an empty file in the root of your drive "D Drive" called test.touch if that file already exists it will have a new time stamp. If it cannot be created or altered you cannot write to the dir and shoul probably read up on those sites I gave you. becasue it would take me hours to write up every littel thing you need to do and It would not be as clear.
But if that works cd to the directory you want to delete files from
type "ls -l" see if there is an owner and group
first col is attribs s\2nd is amount of links or dir in the dir the cols that say root root here are owner and group respectively.
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 44790270 2007-08-13 21:52 copy.log
-rw-r----- 1 root root 0 2007-08-12 04:40 cron
-rw-r----- 1 root root 0 2002-04-07 06:13 cron.1
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2007-08-09 23:26 cups
Who owns these files? can you chmod them?
pick a file any file and type chmod 666 file.name
then the ls -l again
the attribs should be -rw-rw-rw-
now try rm file.name
should go
if it does chmod the whole lot of 'em chmod 666 *
and delete the whole lot of 'em rm * if that's what you want.
if you are root and cannot change attributes or touch a file your partition is mounted read only. You should read the above links about enabling Read-write and go at it again. It may involve editing your /etc/fstab file and there are tutorials on that Now I'm off for a beer hope you've still got a running machine when I get back...
:D
Ah, I got more :) hadn't bothered accessing the other drives since my last boot, ok I think the 3 usb are my mouse,cam and keyboard.
Got seperate cd burner, and a dvd burner.
D is my windows and has no space, F is full :( I got a small empty partition somewhere, and another full one and I think a half full one somewhere, I will try a reboot and disconnecting and that, if that don't work then I will read up on it :(
Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/hda1 36985736 3383616 31723320 10% /
varrun 257992 228 257764 1% /var/run
varlock 257992 0 257992 0% /var/lock
procbususb 257992 148 257844 1% /proc/bus/usb
udev 257992 148 257844 1% /dev
devshm 257992 0 257992 0% /dev/shm
lrm 257992 33788 224204 14% /lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/volatile
/dev/hdd 4571552 4571552 0 100% /media/cdrom0
/dev/sda5 96237348 94598264 1639084 99% /media/D Drive
/dev/sdb1 117218240 116435588 782652 100% /media/F Drive
/dev/sda1 20972824 17379116 3593708 83% /media/disk
/dev/sda3 8008 0 8008 0% /media/disk-1
^ Too late mate. Frankie will be out until dawn.
piece of piss this Linux stuff :bunny3:Quote:
Originally Posted by dirtydog
Goojn down.
went out ast night with Elsie nd 'is pal athey pised n themnsleves left me alone drinking tequila beers and fcuk-al what-else alone with beautiful wo\immen adn big pooltables OK thet're kiwism We know that basiclly they're all big pussies So I was left all to me self til cali kid showed up arund 5;00 am. Left for home 'bout; fuck, dunno half hour/hour ago?
Is your computer as fucked up as I am??? Should ai give a fuck? I lost more skin off my body & face thn I think ain't fucked up. Te bikes ok broke clutch handle and it's good to go, But FUCK ME! All I can say is you bought into that "we can do it for you" fickin, indows and wannabe womdows OS's with them ":don;t worry we know best"
:D
i stil love my slackware OK Any way,
I got no fuckin skin and I'm fucked up on all kind's-a shit don't worry thoug the bike's in pretty goo docon\dition ad I might heal in a week or two.
Fuck me everything hurts.
Found a bar that stay open til .. Well, now.
^ Good Lord. He posts in machine code now. :)
Sorry mate, I didn't understand a word/byte of that
go and see a fukking doctor or I'll tell my wife to come round to nag you.Quote:
Originally Posted by friscofrankie
Doesn't she havde to go hoe to fuckin; vote? mine does I told her to fuckin leave or I would.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon
Just wonder why i got road rash on both sides of my face....
Back on subject. If you want real,m coherent answer to them read write issues? Gonna have to wait a day or three, My body's pretty fucked up right now and .. Think the best way to deal with it is get mind even more fucked up.. Fuck I didn't thinik a fucker could lose this mach skin a remain human...
OK. Let's not derail a very good thred on getting MS off yer desktop Think I'll start one called "Goin' Down" Butterfly oughta like that...
Why make a simple task so difficult?
Boot up Windows and run one of umpteen programs available to resize partitions while keeping the data there untouched.
^fuckin MS weenie It ain;t that fuckin easy
but these new Linu distros are damn near as bad as Windoze I gotta tell ya.
Don't start with me I'm fuckin injured :D and fucked up
No, she's registered in Chiangmai now.Quote:
Originally Posted by friscofrankie
Ok, so boot Linux then and run the equivalent program.:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by friscofrankie
If Windoze has umpteens of them (4 or 5 really good and reliable ones), then there is of course at least one available for Linux?:)
Aah, but it may not be compatible with that certain distro..
Cheers! Go take care of your body now.Quote:
Originally Posted by friscofrankie
Yep, Gparted should do the job.Quote:
Originally Posted by lom
DD and FF arre doing a good job of making linux look difficult, never come across any of these problems myself and there are plenty of apps that show the disk partitions graphically on Ubuntu - Gparted, Control Centre-System Admin-Disk & Filesystem, Kwikdisk, Kdiskfree, Kinfocentre...etc.....etc.....
Windoze Linus BSD unix can all be difficult when they fuck up. I do not like GUI utils end of story. Always have and this is my biggest problem with windoze and most Linux distros. Gieve me a command line ad THAT is user freieldy to me. I don;t use GUIs I don;t like GUIs
What the fuck about folks that don;t use KDE or Guh Nome? There is a command line interface to all of the above much unlike WINDOZE....
AND each distro has some kind of different fuckin GUI. They are going after the windoze market, losing hte flexibility that Linux once had; get the fuck out of the GUI and learn the system. I setup my logical volume grou then the lo\gical volume with nothing more than command line commands, Each fuckin GUI interface I worked with fucked things up,
i recently went through the install of debian, gentoo (again), CentOS, Mandrivia, And a coupole of others. I installed in dumy mode, accept defaults, click OK. Esch one of the fuckers failed in some way mostly with Bringing up windoze. ALL failed the SATA rsid test These were asl 64 bit relases. Gentoo failed, after a full install with a message "Install failed" end of story 9with or without Raid setup)
The Only OS to have decent install and usuablility was Suse but it was so much like windoze n limiting options and with autmatic updates I fuckin hted it. When an update or package corrupted my ability to generate encrypted passwrod or encrypt any other data Iinstead of trouble shootin I just moved my data to my otehr machine formatted and went back to slackware
In My opinion the ONLY OS to really challenge Windoze for the common user is SuSe. I have not tried ubuntu So no comment onthat one but I tried allthe 64 bit distros I could find inthe main stream. The advances made in the last two years are amazing but they just ain't there yet.
SuSE is a finished product limited in some features but that's fixable if you choose to circumvent YAST on some packages one you've done that... Much like WinNT 3.51 & 4.0.
Unless you're willing to take the time to learn a bt about systems My advice don't fuck with 'em. I do advise larnig enugh to do a text menu driven install much like you did for DOS 4+^ Slackware is still teh simplest and most reliable install in the Linux world, it is not designed to be 100% linux compliantThe init and file structure is more BSD like (real unix) But supports full 100% linux init as well. Although stil in 32 bit form it is miles above any other OS I have found for my needs.
AL Operating systems are complcated adn ALL Opertaing systems will be a bitch when they don't work. Fuckin computers are comp-licated pieces of machinery and eh fuckin cioce to run them??? I doubt there are more than 5 people on the forum that could look at debug or maintain the shit that goes into a kewrnel and OS If that.
SuSE has as many years of experience behind it as ms if NOT MORE Novell has years and a very nice campus in Utah, They feed very well. It fuckin works for a corporate desktop I would not hesitate to recommend it. My first choice for coporate desktop wuld remain windoze and I HATE WINDOZE!!!!
For the comon user at home fedora or SuSE are very good choices. For developers I would recommend slackware or BSD. They require some twaeking but all deve Worksations do. These will fillteh bill nicely.
Sadly, most Linux distros in an effort to garner more windoze users have fogotten the beauty of linux; flexibility. By developing more GUI interfaces to manage partitions files software installs they are actually fallin behind in forgetting the command line NO LINUS distro requires a windows interface to run well. This is an addon. Most distro dev trees have fogotten this, they are trying to appeal to Windoze users.
So far ,except for fedora and SuSE, they are failing miserably. From the look of DD's mounted volumes I'd say ubuntu ain't ready for prime time either. Linux is and should be THE desktop/server OS it beats Windoze hands down, by trying to BE windoze most distros trees are losing the plot and the war. For those of us that like a command line or text driven menu install there are distros out there that will allow you to build a mchanine that works well, reliably without the problems in herent in a windoze system.
For you windoze users out there try SuSE it's better faster, and much more stable than windoze and truth be told you probably won't notice much differnece in mangement or interface, you just might not see that BSOD (unless you choose it as a screensaver)
In the next two years I think we will see many more Linux distros that will make the grade as far as setup, and managment now? If you're afraid of teh "dark Place" (Command line) forget all teh others
Her are your choices as I see it:
WinDoze That nazi fucking orghanization
Or
SuSE
Or
Fedora
Or use your fuckin head for more than a fuckin hat rack and try slackware.
Are OK
The rest either require some initiative or knowledge