What computer should I buy?

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Originally Posted by wjblaney

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Originally Posted by Bettyboo

WJ, what are your requirements?

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I've stored a lot of work-base shit from 25 years in IT and 4 teaching English on two old Sony hard drives. I am almost 100% certain I'll never see any of that work again. But it was high tech so I felt the need never to throw them away, basically becoming a pack rat of computer files. Of course, there are a lot of pics/vids/audio files that I currently utilize. So ultra high-def media is my first requirement. That's why I want the fastest and most powerful option out there (I also have 300 CDs I want to rip). Other than that, it's the usual: gmail, FB, Google, skype, forums etc. In other words, I plan on simply copying my hard drive to the extra and keeping in storage until I find there is something I need on it. I'm hoping I'll be able to get along just fine with the new OS as is, without downloading another fuckin' app for the life of me.

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Sorry, but you seem to be a bit at 6s & 7s as to what you want the machine to do :confused:

Storing a load of stuff that may or may not be used would be better off unloaded onto a few external drives or even Dropbox or some other cloud service. Or get a low end desktop for about 11,000 Baht and stick a couple extra drives into it. Even better look at a NAS and put it all on that.

'Ultra hi-def media' isn't really a laptop's forté unless you shell out $6,000 for a top of the line Alienware machine or something, but again it would be far cheaper to get a nice cheap desktop and put a decent graphics and sound card into it. You aren't going to be blasting out music at max volume while surfing the web in an airport lounge so why bother getting laptop that can do all that?

Get a desktop as your home theater/file storage thingy and then use the rest of the budget to get a nice mid-range laptop for use on the go and for watching media around the house or whatever. Best of both worlds.

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I also have 300 CDs I want to rip

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just downlaod them

Allo Albert ,, where you been ?

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Originally Posted by nigelandjan

Allo Albert ,, where you been ?

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He was detained my ho land security.
Apparently he proved drunk Falang pederasts were the 7/11 bummers:tieme:
They took Albert's ring but allowed shagnasty to bring happiness to presumbaly the land of frowns:smileylaughing:

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Originally Posted by quimbian corholla

It is your money of course, and your decision how to spend it but I think that with a bit of shopping around and research you'll be able to find a very good laptop that more than meets your needs for under 30K, perhaps even close to around 20K.

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Originally Posted by quimbian corholla

Still, I don't think it is value for the money. If ~40K is the budget you can get better than that imho.

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I've come completely around around to your logic.

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Originally Posted by Bettyboo

You can, as Troy said, get a decent machine for between 20,000 and 25,000 baht. An i5 if fine (an i3 is fine actually...). Don't get a touchscreen laptop!!! When I bought my Dells, I went to Pantip, walked around for about 3 hours checking everything out, then went to Burgerking and had a bite to eat, then went back to the best shop that had the best deal for the laptop I wanted (along with a salesperson I liked) then bought it - quite easy. It's good to research first to get an idea, but getting amongst it all and seeing what you like is the way forward...

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I found a small shop in Computer Plaza where the owner speaks excellent English. I told him I wanted a computer with a SSHD for 25k and he said no problem. I also learned there are three kinds of SSHD: expensive (2400), more expensive (4800) and most expensive (10,000). Then he asked what else would I like but he wasn't showing me any computers so I said "You mean I can just give you the specs I want and we'll agree on a price and you'll build it for me?" And he said "yeah, np". So I said "I'm a computer dummy but my friends are very smart and I will get the specs from them". Think I should just give him the lenovo specs LENOVO Y5070-59422156 Notebook Laptop review spec promotion price - Notebookspec.com?

BB, I got the salesperson I want to deal with and he doesn't work for a major company, just runs a shop. :sexy:

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Originally Posted by wjblaney

BB, I got the salesperson I want to deal with and he doesn't work for a major company, just runs a shop.

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Good stuff, a real person to speak to who knows what they are doing is a wonderful thing, if rare... :) He will need to put some margin in the deal for himself, but if you end up with what you want at the right price (rather than a manufacturer's list of things you kinda want, and some you don't, at about the right price, then it's all good; to symbolize this, I will show a picture:

https://teakdoor.com/images/smilies1/You_Rock_Emoticon.gif

^Scarlett Johansson is the model # for me.

sounds like he is going to build you a desktop

^^She's got great tits. Will your new lap top have great tits as well?

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Originally Posted by baldrick

sounds like he is going to build you a desktop

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A desktop with the shittiest components in the back of the store but boasting a SSHD and a 25K Baht price tag.

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Originally Posted by ltnt

She's got great tits

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No she doesn't. She has a pretty face, that's it...
(take away the push up bra and corset, and she's not got a great body...)

My take on the sshd .
think they are 3 types of drive .

1.An SSD -solid state drive - advantages :
has no moving parts so is silent (no whirrring sound),
cooler,
more reliable ,
way faster ( in starting up, starting progs, finding data , running scans etc )
totally quiet,
lighter,
longer life ,
use a lot less battery power .

2. A traditional HD - mechanical hard drive- advantages , they are a lot cheap per GB

3 . SSHD ?
a hybred device- it has a big old fashioned mechanical Hard drive , plus a very small ssd - added.

I guess with the SSHD they are trying to give you the best of both worlds , a good idea a while ago when SSD were so very much more expensive , but now you might as well have a laptop with, say, a 500 Gb SSD, and do away with the HD altogether .

If you cannot buy one already installed you can remove the HD or have it done for you , and replace it with an SSD , and then use the removed HD for storage via the usb and a plastic hard drive caddy .

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Originally Posted by quimbian corholla

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Originally Posted by baldrick

sounds like he is going to build you a desktop

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A desktop with the shittiest components in the back of the store but boasting a SSHD and a 25K Baht price tag.

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Utterly bizarre, really.

A MacBook Air at 34000 bt would do him fine. All this tosh about getting some Somchai to knock out a rig for 25,000 from a hole in the wall outfit is just plain silly. Presumably, it is just some displacement activity compensating for some loss or other.

These SSHD are in the main just a bit of glitz and add little (except Apple's Fusion drive which is whizzo), most of them just 64GB of SSD and with an inferior connection widget, thingamajig.

If he was really sensible he would buy a Mac Mini with the upgraded Fusion drive and plenty of storage, adding more RAM if he really wanted it for 28,000t and picking up a nice monitor for 6000 bt.

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Originally Posted by blue

An SSD -solid state drive

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yes - jsut get a Samsung SSD and use the spinning disk as an external USB 3 drive

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Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

Fusion

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is it just my imagination or are genticles' comments becoming decidedly camp ?

i cant understand why he spends so much on a lump of metal that will not only be corroded by the saline humidity it will have to endure but out of date within two or three years.

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Originally Posted by Bettyboo

No she doesn't. She has a pretty face, that's it...

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Wait til you see her tits. There's a photo floating about of them. She's got those pointy type and turned up...all natural...I forgot to even look at the face...who cares with those pair...Ummmmm....

Some styles never go out of fashion but always remain in vogue. Whether it be because of some innate timelessness, lack of any class denotation or simply because it is " just right ", who knows but such things do exist and are to be admired and retained.

A Zippo lighter, a decent Harris tweed jacket, sound brogues, a MacBook Air, an E type Jaguar, a Leica, a Dunhill lighter, an Anglepoise light are all examples of a design style no discerning person with even the merest modicum of good taste could possibly eschew.

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A Zippo lighter, a decent Harris tweed jacket, sound brogues, a MacBook Air, an E type Jaguar, a Leica, a Dunhill lighter, an Anglepoise light are all examples of a design style no discerning person with even the merest modicum of good taste could possibly eschew.

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well, apart from the macbook, ive had them all and all appreciated in value before i moved them on, apart from the harris tweed jacket which went to a charity shop. doubt if the macbook will be worth half a tusheroon in two months time.

im sure you will enjoy the macbook, its ergonomic and haptic qualities will delight, but like the superficial floozy it is, it will ultimately disappoint. probably due to the rust it will suffer from if it is kept in a coastal location.

i had a very nice sony vaio, looked good, felt good, worked a treat, but it eventually died and could not be revived. curiosity made me open the thing up to dissect it and i was surprised to see nearly all the connections had corroded and rusted, i opened up the hard drive with a hammer and screwdriver and also found serious corrosion had affected its innards.

for use in a brutal climate like thailands, the effects of which are compounded by proximity to the sea, cheapness of replacement and unemotional attachment to the product is king.

wham, bam, thank you mam, and then move on to another.

no use coming over all stephen fry about a fucking machine.

you know it makes sense.

There's no saying what I'll do yet, right? I started out on this thread with basic knowledge of hardware and applications seeking the best advice for a new laptop/notebook and I'm getting that. Blue blew my mind with his rundown on hard drives. WOW. Now this difference between a SSHD and SSD has me reeling. I wonder what the guy at the shop is going to say when I tell him I meant SSD.

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Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

A MacBook Air at 34000 bt would do him fine. All this tosh about getting some Somchai to knock out a rig for 25,000 from a hole in the wall outfit is just plain silly. Presumably, it is just some displacement activity compensating for some loss or other.

These SSHD are in the main just a bit of glitz and add little (except Apple's Fusion drive which is whizzo), most of them just 64GB of SSD and with an inferior connection widget, thingamajig.

If he was really sensible he would buy a Mac Mini with the upgraded Fusion drive and plenty of storage, adding more RAM if he really wanted it for 28,000t and picking up a nice monitor for 6000 bt.

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This praise for the Apple. Is it really no sweat for pc users of 20+ years to become Apple lovers just like that? I'm open to change. The only thing I've really liked has been the media center for all your media files. What does Apple have that's comparable? I'd like to make my new laptop my portable media center. I DO NOT want a desk top.

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Originally Posted by baldrick

yes - jsut get a Samsung SSD and use the spinning disk as an external USB 3 drive

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I'll try to find one. Thanks.

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Originally Posted by taxexile

for use in a brutal climate like thailands, the effects of which are compounded by proximity to the sea, cheapness of replacement and unemotional attachment to the product is king.

wham, bam, thank you mam, and then move on to another.

no use coming over all stephen fry about a fucking machine.

you know it makes sense.

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It makes excellent sense. So how much would you spend now in LOS for a new machine?

the last laptop was bought nearly 3 years ago in the uk, an acer aspire 5742 with windows 7 that cost about £270.

it has never missed a beat and gets used most days.

i know it hasnt got more than a year left before it dies and when it need replacing i would look at acer again, and one of their cheaper models. all i do is mess around on the internet, e-mails and keep and edit my photos and music.

i dont need an expensive computer. personally i'd rather spend on a high end wristwatch or camera than on a laptop. different strokes etc.

Will anybody diss Windows Media Center? I've already expressed my love for it on my Sony VAIO. It IS available on all these other PCs we've talked about, isn't it? and, therefore Win 8.1. So far, I think that's the only spec I've mentioned nobody's dissed.
If you forgot, I also mentioned that Windows puts it's own proprietary file extensions on audio files it can get hold of, making Windows Media Player the only player of those files. That's a pretty good diss.

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Originally Posted by taxexile

i cant understand why he spends so much on a lump of metal that will not only be corroded by the saline humidity it will have to endure

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Fortunately those clever buggers at Cupertino foresaw this issue and make their laptops out of aluminium and not wrought iron. The steam powered abacus has probably had its day too you know.


FYI: I wrote this post on a year 2007 iMac that has been in a non-aircon environment within 3 miles of the sea for all ~8 years of its working life so far.

well you would say that wouldnt you !

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Originally Posted by quimbian corholla

FYI: I wrote this post on a year 2007 iMac that has been in a non-aircon environment within 3 miles of the sea for all ~8 years of its working life so far.

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Damn if you ain't changing my mind. I'd like to test drive the media capability, esp. audio, on one.

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Originally Posted by taxexile

well you would say that wouldnt you !

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You know how people sigh in frustration and say, "F*cking hell, there always has to be one doesn't there?"




WELL I AM THE ONE! :D


But fear not, I have surely incurred the wrath of the computer gods now so it's almost a certainty that this iMac will die within the week.

ive always thought of apple stuff as fashion accessories rather than useful products, its a prejudiced view of course but so what.

it stems partly from a dislike of steven jobs awful smirking smugness and partly from the contrived coolness of himself and his organisation.

i am however in possession of an i-pod classic, about 6 years old. it is actually a limited edition model specially made for the thai market and the metal on the back is engraved with royal symbols and other "limited edition" stuff, it was the only model they had for sale when i went to buy one.

it has broken down a couple of times, once they repaired it for me at the apple outlet in the emporium, and once i forced the damn thing open and replaced the wheel control on the front myself with a part i picked up on the street in chinatown.
it gets a lot of rough use, downloaded daily podcasts transferred from my laptop and it accompanies me to the gym four or five times a week where it gets a bit of a hammering.

i will keep it for as long as i can, repairing it when necessary.

it is certainly a solid and reliable piece of kit, and stylish too in a wonderfully minimalist sort of way, (designed by a brit i believe) even after 6 years.

i like the functionality of it, its like an old land rover or mini, its not pretentious which is how i view their laptops etc.

All I can say is that after enduring Windows and crappy plastic, fan whirring, klunking, egg boilingly hot, viral ridden shite for 10 years I have discovered what I have been missing.

My MacBook is super fast, utterly silent, sends me no daft messages from software piggybacks, is just so beautifully designed, has the best touch pad I have ever used which makes touchscreens utterly redundant, has the best keyboard I have ever used, is made of gorgeously crafted aluminium that is nice to touch, stroke and fondle, and is delightfully cool when resting on one's bare chest languishing in bed surfing the delights of Youbook and Facetube.

Tax, you should abandon those silly prejudices of yours which you may well think keep you on the straight and narrow but in truth only blinker you from the better way that is Apple.

Incidentally, what is a media centre? I have an IPod from 2010, a tiny thing, which has 16GB of music on it which hasn't missed a beat since the day I bought it. It reposes in my Geneva Sound Dock and the sound is as good as the CDs from which I ripped it, if that is the right term.

If Apple made cars they would be beautiful. Better than Saab I should think, my last great love for things not of flesh.

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Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

Incidentally, what is a media centre?

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Windows Media Center is an app that allows you to upload your favorite media files (audio, picture, video, movies, XXX) and/or play or share them. Watch this short video: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/products/windows-media-center

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Originally Posted by wjblaney

Will anybody diss Windows Media Center? I've already expressed my love for it on my Sony VAIO. It IS available on all these other PCs we've talked about, isn't it? and, therefore Win 8.1

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You will have to pay for it, it's not free on Windows 8

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Originally Posted by wjblaney

I searched for the word 'Vaio' on this thread. Um, does anybody have one?

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Bought this one at Pantip a few years ago, its a beauty whith SSD, here it is again :)

https://teakdoor.com/Gallery/albums/u...30293/vaoi.jpg

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Originally Posted by wjblaney

therefore Win 8.1

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What's wrong with Win10???

You're so 1980s... :)

https://teakdoor.com/images/imported/2015/01/532.jpg

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Originally Posted by Dillinger

You will have to pay for it, it's not free on Windows 8

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Minesweeper is still included though right? I think that's the only piece of Microsoft software that has never crashed on me.

For a gratis media center/organiser look to Nightingale

At this point don't cha think you should purchase a lap top that does all the thinking and hard parts for you, like making "DECISIONS! FFS 21 pages of utter crapola...

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Originally Posted by ltnt

21 pages

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try 40 posts per page - then it is only 13 pages

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Originally Posted by baldrick

try 40 posts per page - then it is only 13 pages

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About 39 posts to many then?

I think you are being a little harsh on the chap. He only made his enquiry on 4 Jan a few pages back. Most of the thread concerns thegent's deliberations, somewhat extended I grant you but there were reasons, evidently.

^More like "Insanity."

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Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

I think you are being a little harsh on the chap. He only made his enquiry on 4 Jan a few pages back. Most of the thread concerns thegent's deliberations, somewhat extended I grant you but there were reasons, evidently.

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Tread carefully, Seekingasylum ! All here know thegent to be a windbag who has an insatiable appetite for sausages and who is nasty to Thai people. Thank goodness he's flounced.

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Originally Posted by can123

nasty to Thai people

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nasty to thai people?