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    Here is a Casio G Shock, it is a fantastic wrist watch, super accurate, and besides that has a myriad of fancy functions so it is a real neat little fun gadget for the money.







    Here is an automatic Cartier wrist watch, not quite as accurate as the Casio and with way less features, it will do what you expect of a high quality wrist watch, and not much more, but it is exquisitely made, oozes quality and craftmanship, nice to tuch, to look at, and to own. But it is granted very expensive.


    Some people will either never get the distinction or could not care less, they are thrilled with fake carbon look etc., just as long as it is biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiggg -





    But that's fine whatever makes people happy is great, who are we to jugde?



    Despite the dire free fantasy predictions, and slightly wierdo strong negative emotions that apple products evidently evoke in certain people - who don't have to buy any if they don't want to! - there is a quite good chance that Apple will probably manage without them.

    "more than nine million new iPhones sold―a new record for first weekend sales"

    "a successful launch of iOS 7, announcing that 200 million iPhones had already upgraded to the latest version of the company’s mobile operating system. This is being regarded as the fastest software update in history."

    Apple announces record-breaking weekend sales: 9m iPhones sold since launch - News - Gadgets & Tech - The Independent

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    Harrybarracuda.

    The Smeg of tech here on TD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by larvidchr View Post
    Here is a Casio G Shock,

    Here is an automatic Cartier wrist watch,
    Fook that shit.
    Watches are for amateurs, CLOCKS are where its at.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Looper View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by can123
    Nobody is going to think you a little bit daft if you stop promoting Apple goods.
    I am not a fan of Apple goods personally but history has shown us that they design great products and the world copies them.

    ^Sony's iPod clone is a good example.
    Actually its apple that copies designs from Star Trek




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    Quote Originally Posted by larvidchr
    Some people will either never get the distinction or could not care less
    Larv, are you sure you're not a Jutlander...

    The expensive 5c is most of what the G-shock is, but less, it is most of what a Samsung S4 is, but less (in every way), it is also plastic and ugly like a G-shock and Samsung S4. However, in your analogy, it is priced like a 'very expensive... automatic cartier...' but it is neither 'high quality nor exquisitly made' - it is a low quality, mass produced, low technology (by Samsung, ironically...) plastic phone just like the Samsung and LG, except: 1) it is more expensive; 2) it is less. Hence why we have all these parodies of iApple and 'more is less'...

    That's what iTards don't get!

    Yes, a Bently is more expensive than a Kia, and for good reason. But, when Bentley start selling rebadged Kias for the price of a Bentley then you'd have to question the type of person who buys them, the current situation with i5c is selling a 1987 Kia for the price of a new Bentley...
    Cycling should be banned!!!

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    Leave it out BettyB , you can't get away with hand-picking what phone models compete in what market segments to suit your arguments -

    Samsung and all the other phone producers probably have hundreds of low to medium end models (Kia's ), that is the market Apple tries to tap into with the (Golf) 5c while still staying at a premium price in that part of the market, the number of sold phones will show if they hit a sweet spot and costumer satisfaction.

    The Galaxy 4S, HTC and Sony phones you keep mentioning, is those company's quite good attempts at making a high end phone (Bentley) to compete with Apples (Rolls-Royce) top end phones now the 5s.

    It has taken them years to copy and catch up with the whole concept of Apples smooth OS and hardware system (a statement all experts agree with, but not internet tossers android bots and hacktivists) and now they have with the aid from Googles rent an engine (Android), they now produce a few high end real good phones, and good on them.

    But Apple remains the innovative design and quality benchmark everyone tries to follow and beat....... fact.

    We will have to wait and see, if Steve Job's obsession with both inner (not seen) aesthetics and quality (like Cartier watches for-instance ) as-well as the same for the wrapping of Apple products will survive, after the products who has been years in the pipeline, and that he was part of developing ends.

    But no matter, Appels innovations have been good for the market and ultimately for us the end-users.

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    Let me add this -

    Apple being unquestionable at the top of the heap, is held to much higher standards than everyone else, evident in for-instance the latest fingerprint debacle, Foxcon stories and this OP etc.

    No one gives a hoot if Android has a fluke in it's system, or Samsung makes a shit phone in their line-up, but the slightest little crack in the Apple armour is world headlines quicker than you can blink your eye.

    It is part of the human condition to always try to knock down the top dog, envy, pettiness and pure malice, not the most flattering human traits.
    But also to keep people from floating to much skywards and become infallible in their own minds, and that is healthy enough.

    But we need to be aware of those things to get the right/fair perspective when we follow the news and the net.


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    Quote Originally Posted by larvidchr View Post
    Leave it out BettyB , you can't get away with hand-picking what phone models compete in what market segments to suit your arguments -

    Samsung and all the other phone producers probably have hundreds of low to medium end models (Kia's ), that is the market Apple tries to tap into with the (Golf) 5c while still staying at a premium price in that part of the market, the number of sold phones will show if they hit a sweet spot and costumer satisfaction.

    The Galaxy 4S, HTC and Sony phones you keep mentioning, is those company's quite good attempts at making a high end phone (Bentley) to compete with Apples (Rolls-Royce) top end phones now the 5s.

    It has taken them years to copy and catch up with the whole concept of Apples smooth OS and hardware system (a statement all experts agree with, but not internet tossers android bots and hacktivists) and now they have with the aid from Googles rent an engine (Android), they now produce a few high end real good phones, and good on them.

    But Apple remains the innovative design and quality benchmark everyone tries to follow and beat....... fact.

    We will have to wait and see, if Steve Job's obsession with both inner (not seen) aesthetics and quality (like Cartier watches for-instance ) as-well as the same for the wrapping of Apple products will survive, after the products who has been years in the pipeline, and that he was part of developing ends.

    But no matter, Appels innovations have been good for the market and ultimately for us the end-users.

    What a load of old tosh.

    We're on iOS 7 and they still can't match Android multitasking. It took them five goes to try and get notifications right, and it's still shit.

    Their boring monolith is as dated as it looks, and they should have come out with a better phone two years ago.

    The trouble is, they've spent so much time and money litigating, that if they try and copy the other Smartphone vendors (who now know how to play the petty patent game), they'll have to breach so many patents to do it that they will be the ones who end up in court.

    Apple have run out of ideas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bung View Post
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    Yes yes yes we know 'arry

    Monoliths -





    Mind-boggling progress in the shape of things from the bamboo crowd.

    For my part I could not care less what phones other people buy, I just hope people are happy with their choices whatever brand/type, and that it fulfil their personal needs, I guess final 2013 sales numbers, will show if minor multitasking and notification differences, are as important to all the different phone costumers, as they are to you.
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    Well it's obviously important to some people, because of the top 5 manufacturers last year, only one lost market share. Guess who?

    Probably the only reason people are sticking with this shit is that they have fortunes locked into their itunes collection.

    Stupid twats.


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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    Apple have run out of ideas.
    you are assuming they had ideas in the first place,

    Steve Jobs was a hack who could get away with it thanks to a cult following of fags and delusional weed smoking hyppie geeks

    take away the guru, and like in any religious cult, the whole thing collapse

    Apple could be the first case of a Religious Tech order, quite an innovation in itself, that could soon be followed by the like of Android and Google.

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    speaking of innovation, SONY used to have the best toys in terms of design and usefulness, much better than anything Apple could think of

    all gone now thanks to an American management,


    SAMSUNG is the new god in the designing world,

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    Why would anybody care less what type of phone somebody else had. FFS....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Chuchok
    Why would anybody care less what type of phone somebody else had. FFS....
    in these days and age, they have become fashion statements, whether admitted or not by their rightful owners

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    ^Not to me. I couldn't give a rats arse.

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    buy a Nokia then

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    LC, you never want to agree with Butterfly. He knows this for a fact. If he didnt he would have used words like in my opinion, I believe, but its a fact to him. Let him strut.

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    but it's a fashion statement, it's pretty obvious

    it might an unconscious act by some, but apple is the Gucci of smart phone

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    Quote Originally Posted by larvidchr
    have hundreds of low to medium end models (Kia's ), that is the market Apple tries to tap into with the (Golf) 5c
    So you agree that the 5c is a low to medium model, why then does it have a top end pricepoint; Kia for the price of a Bentlye; More ($) is less (quality)... Horrible way to treat your loyal customers.

    Quote Originally Posted by larvidchr
    The Galaxy 4S, HTC and Sony phones you keep mentioning, is those company's quite good attempts at making a high end phone (Bentley) to compete with Apples
    Quite good or superior? Look at the sales, look at the functionality, the list goes on... iApple have lost it...

    Quote Originally Posted by larvidchr
    We will have to wait and see, if Steve Job's obsession with both inner (not seen) aesthetics and quality
    You mean Samsung parts; cause that's who makes the innards...

    Quote Originally Posted by larvidchr
    Apple being unquestionable at the top of the heap, is held to much higher standards than everyone else, evident in for-instance the latest fingerprint debacle
    Mmmmm, top of the heap in which way? Not function (S4 is), Not build quality (HTC One is), Not camera, screen or video (Sony Z1 is), Not processos (LG is...); what? Oh yes, price and sheeples...

    You are correct though that the fingerprint scanner was a poorly thought through fuk up; nice implementation though...
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    The i5s is a nice phone for big money; has solid quality all round - not the top dog, but a decent top end competitor. Just too pricey when compared to others, and this is a problem because the Sony Z1 and Samsung S4, etc, which are better phones, have forced their price up to the artificial iApple level - this hurts all consumers...

    The i5c us an utter piss-take... It's cheap, it's old generation, it's plastic, and it's farkin expensive!

    Look at the profits these companies make, look at that Nokia/Microsoft twat's bonus - iApple have artifically created this market and other companies have followed (most noticeaably Samsung and now Sony's 600 pound phone...) suit because they know they have better products. It hurts consumers; thanks a lot iApple...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo
    iApple have lost it..
    If I were a gambler I wouldn't be betting against Apple just yet.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo
    Not function (S4 is), Not build quality (HTC One is), Not camera, screen or video (Sony Z1 is), Not processos (LG is...)
    I wonder what device it was that forced them to start making such changes to their products...

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Well it's obviously important to some people, because of the top 5 manufacturers last year, only one lost market share. Guess who?

    Probably the only reason people are sticking with this shit is that they have fortunes locked into their itunes collection.

    Stupid twats.

    Tsk. Tsk. your OP was about the Iphone harry.

    If we are talking collected product lines from all mobile tech competitors versus Apple alone , then that is hardly a surprise, and the usual nerd way of Apple bashing by twisting shit so it fits the shoe.

    Fluctuations in market share was inevitable giving the market circumstance and huge increase in cheaper/poorer and genuinely competitive product availability.

    If you have no tablet product and consequently no sales, to having one sending it on the market and selling more of them, then you get a relative huge percentage increase in your own market share obviously Harry , and the established loose a little because there is alternatives entering the market, that however does not change the overall dominance of a product like for-instance the iPad.

    So harry standalone - Iphone 5 comfortably beat Samsung galaxy s4........ as will the new Iphone 5s if predictions from the know people hold.

    "Although the Galaxy S4 has sold faster than any other Samsung device, it appears that it still couldn’t surpass the sales rate for the iPhone 5. Citing the slowing demand for the Galaxy S4, a mid-June report from J.P. Morgan lowered the 2013 earnings estimate for Samsung by 9 percent. After the report was released, Samsung lost $12.4 billion in market capitalization, falling to $187.8 billion."

    Link - Analyst: Samsung Galaxy S4 Sales vs. Apple iPhone 5 Sales | Wall St. Cheat Sheet

    But again I repeat, who besides you and a few other angry die hard's gives a fuckwhat other people buy, a varied choice of products benefits us all, just like innovative producers that keep pushing the envelope,.... great

    A friend showed me a very nice new phone he had bought the other day, it suited his needs around photo stuff especially, I said great what a nice phone, and I meant it, I would never dream of getting negative or calling people twats because what phones they buy, life is way to fvucking short to invoke or invest any negative energy on things like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by larvidchr
    have hundreds of low to medium end models (Kia's ), that is the market Apple tries to tap into with the (Golf) 5c
    So you agree that the 5c is a low to medium model, why then does it have a top end pricepoint; Kia for the price of a Bentlye; More ($) is less (quality)... Horrible way to treat your loyal customers.

    For the same obvious reasons a Golf costs more than a similar Kia.

    Quote Originally Posted by larvidchr
    The Galaxy 4S, HTC and Sony phones you keep mentioning, is those company's quite good attempts at making a high end phone (Bentley) to compete with Apples
    Quite good or superior? Look at the sales, look at the functionality, the list goes on... iApple have lost it...

    You are factually wrong, iPhone outsells them all on an individual basis.

    Quote Originally Posted by larvidchr
    We will have to wait and see, if Steve Job's obsession with both inner (not seen) aesthetics and quality
    You mean Samsung parts; cause that's who makes the innards...

    Parts produced by the hired help Samsung to Apple specs. and put inside the phones in accordance with Apples high end and granted more expensive design philosophy.
    Apart from that you are on thin ice with the Steve Jobs aesthetics design demands, only you would question his influence and massive impact on change in consumer tech products.


    Quote Originally Posted by larvidchr
    Apple being unquestionable at the top of the heap, is held to much higher standards than everyone else, evident in for-instance the latest fingerprint debacle
    Mmmmm, top of the heap in which way? Not function (S4 is), Not build quality (HTC One is), Not camera, screen or video (Sony Z1 is), Not processos (LG is...); what? Oh yes, price and sheeples...

    "Oh yes" - and the most valuable company in the world, for that reason I'm not going to argue function, materials and quality with you others have settled that one al ready.

    You are correct though that the fingerprint scanner was a poorly though throught fuk up; nice implementation though...
    Dont know, don't have one so, if I get one I will let you know if it is quick and neat, or shit.


    Ps. Sorry, my answers in underlined bold, not shouting just fvucked up the quoting.
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    My last post was about the iPhone as well. I wasn't talking about tablets or iPods. Samsung don't just sell the S4, they still sell the S3, they sell the Note II, and they have a Note III coming out *today* and probably an S5 in October or November.

    They are still coming up with new products, as are Sony, LG and HTC.

    All Apple have really done is repainted the same stuff, there's really nothing new here.

    I mean Siri, who uses it?

    Anyone buying an iPhone to upgrade from an iPhone is fucking idiot.

    Which is why it's no surprise that people are dumb enough to dunk them in water if a web page tells them to.


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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    Which is why it's no surprise that people are dumb enough to dunk them in water if a web page tells them to.
    never underestimate the stupidity of people, harry, you should know that by now

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