I've been using 8 about 3 months now and it does grow on you eventualy.
Must admit it was a complete pain in the arse to start with, so I had to download the classic start menu from windows 7. Now all is good.
It's more like 50%, and Ubuntu works with any hardware. Maybe it's a long time you didn't check it out.
Canonical has released Ubuntu 13.04 Raring Ringtail, most likely the last release of Ubuntu that will primarily cater for laptop and desktop users. For Ubuntu 13.04, Canonical focused on tightening up the core of the OS and polishing the Unity interface in preparation for Ubuntu’s smartphone and tablet debut, which is slated to occur in October with the release of version 13.10. There’s also the usual slew of package updates, a new Linux kernel, and a couple of new features, too.
The first thing you’ll notice is that the PC in general, is faster and more responsive. This is down to Canonical putting a lot of time and effort into tweaking Ubuntu’s core libraries, to reduce the CPU and memory usage of system processes, resulting in a snappier interface (Unity) and installed apps. This tightening of Ubuntu’s core should also reduce power consumption, which is good news for laptop users. While these changes will obviously help laptop and desktop users, their primary purpose is to prepare Ubuntu for its debut on smartphones and tablets, which generally have less RAM and weaker processors.
So you obtained this from Microsoft?Originally Posted by Tickiteboo
lolz...Ubuntu stopped being cool in like 2011 dudeOriginally Posted by Butterfly
I don't see the point in an upgrade unless you want to use touch screen.
Wrong on both counts.Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
My Windows 8 refuses to start these days, "bad pool header". Good job I didn't pay for it.
That's true. At work they asked me if I wanted it installed to replace XP. I told them to go ahead even though I was quite pleased with 7 which I use at home. I thought I would try it out even though I heard some negative reactions from users. I had no idea it was such a radical change from 7 and XP. My fault but I will figure out a way to live with it.Originally Posted by Butterfly
^ Lemme get this straight, first you declare Ubuntu incompatble with half the hardware in existance and then with the next breath you ask me if my hardware is windows 8 certified?
I've installed and run ubuntu on no less than 30 different work computers, all wildly different ages and specs over the last three years. Never had any trouble with bsod and certainly never had to install stupid anti virus software.
Actually, the only place any instance of windows that i have to maintain that doesn't give me headaches sits inside virtualbox.
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Even Ubuntu has a certified hardware list, you numpty. Try installing it on a Samsung laptop for example. I don't recall installing Windows ever being able to brick a laptop.
And as for thinks like 3G modems, it's pot luck if you get one that works or not.
Most vendors don't even bother writing drivers for Ubuntu, and if Canonical don't do it, you're out of luck.
Give it some more time humbert, Windows 8 is Windows 7, just with an extra interface for touchscreens. Just learn a few keyboard shortcuts and swipes and you will see it's pretty nifty,,Your snipping tool is still there, Click Windows+F, then search apps ,then pin it to your taskbar.Originally Posted by Humbert
There are a few shit things about it, like the start menu, but you will soon learn if you give it time.
Skype for Win 8 is shit and has virtually any features, so I use the desktop version. I also have Chrome running on Windows 7 mode so I can have the taskbar at the bottom.
TBH I use the desktop more than the Win 8 interface. Most of the stuff I have on the Win 8 interface jumps to the desktop to work anyhow.
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That's the point. You can install Classic Shell and use it like Windows 7, but Windows 8 is only a swipe away (although I rarely use it).
Ubuntu will run on everything, the older the PC, the better. Most users don't need the latest PC hardware for doing the lame stuff that they do. Actually, they could use the hardware of PCs 6 or 7 years ago, and they wouldn't tell the difference.
A bit like a grandmother driving a Ferrari, she wouldn't tell the difference and would be better off driving her wheel chair for what she does.
then why upgrade ? isn't it demonstrating even more the stupidity of those who do ?Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
It s actually the contrary, most 3G modems works right out of the box by using generic linux kernel drivers and there is no need for a product specific proprietary driver unless the mfgr has managed to do a fuckup.Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
Which drivers, not part of the generic linux driver collection, are specially needed for Ubuntu?Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
Most of the Huawei range will not work out of the box, and they are probably the biggest 3G dongle manufacturer. I could list all the model numbers but that would be pointless, I'll leave you to Google it.
Like most things in Ubuntu you can normally frig it or use NDISWrapper, but that is definitely out of the reach of the average user.
You only have to look at this example of such nonsense to realise that Windows is the way to go:
Who the fuck wants to go through those hoops when you can plug it into Windows and get it working with a couple of clicks?NM Mobile Broadband workaround
Lubuntu ships with console PPP dialer wvdial, and menu driven PPP
configuration utility pppconfig.
1. wvdialconf/wvdial
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Plug in your modem and run "sudo wvdialconf". If everything is ok,
wvdial will generate a configuration file /etc/wvdial.conf
Edit this file, uncomment and enter Phone, Password and Username.
Run "sudo wvdial" to get a connection
If you need to enter an Access point, add following lines to the
/etc/wvdial.conf:
Init1 = ATZ
Init2 = AT+CGDCONT=1,"IP","your.access.point.name"
2. pppconfig/pon/poff/plog
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Run "sudo pppconfig"
Select "Create a connection"
Enter connection name, e.g.: 3g
Select "Use dynamic DNS"
Check Authentication Method for provider and hit "Ok"
Enter username
Enter password
Enter port speed
Select Tone
Enter phone number, e.g.: #777
Try autoprobe modem.
If it fails just enter your modem device, e.g.: /dev/ttyUSB0
To find out your modem device unplug it/plug it, run "dmesg" and see
log output.
Select "Finished Write files and return to main menu"
Quit
A new configuration file will be placed in /etc/ppp/peers/ folder.
Now when you have made a PPP configuration run "sudo pon 3g" to
initiate connection.
"3g" is a provider name you've entered before.
Run "sudo plog" to see connection log output.
Run "sudo poff" to disconnect.
I've configured ubuntu to work with all the major thai carriers 3 g service, also cat cdma. Also 2 different Singapore telecoms with usb dongles supplied in Singapore. Vietnam 3g also, all done over 10 or so different machines over the last few years.Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
Really do you know anything about Ubuntu and it's capabilities or are you just making this up as you go along?
IndeedOriginally Posted by Butterfly
Admittedly, spastics should not try and use Ubuntu.Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
Anyhoo Microsoft stock is going to zero, it's a good long term short-sell in my book.
What are they gonna do when every pc ships with android or ubuntu installed?
Yes they are the biggest and all of their 3G dongles works right out of the box if you are using a recent Ubuntu build.Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
A workaround from 4 years ago, from Ubuntu 9.04, are you kidding?Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
Network Manager has been much improved since then and can nowadays handle all kind of 3G dongles from all mfgrs.
Windows forces you to install a Connection Manager software from the dongle, a software which is provider branded so you will end up with one installed for each provider you have and they will often conflict with each other.
^^ Being stuck on Xp is not such a bad place to be.
Just wiped my windows 8 off this machine, what a load of shit that was.
Right at the top of the shit-pile was Novotels Mobilink lite, that was a bastard to get runninng well on 64 bit machine! plug and play my arse.Originally Posted by lom
^ Just trying it out, that whole Metro thing licks balls, just like ubunty unity, what on earth were they thinking?
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