You probably also believe that Jesus will return someday, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
It's funny how out of touch a "professional" like you claim to be, actually is.
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You probably also believe that Jesus will return someday, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
It's funny how out of touch a "professional" like you claim to be, actually is.
So, why did Google spend $12.5 billion on Motorola mobility?
I bet Motorola must be happy to read this - as are other hardware partners, to learn that (essentially), "you can't make any money, we're essentially selling it at cost, and we can because we're Google".Quote:
“I don’t think there would have been any other partner that could move that fast.,” Rubin told AllThingsD. “We went from zero to working product in four months.”
No wonder LG has dumped the tablet market, and I am certain that HTC will follow, dropping any more tablet development. Asus was paid by Google, but doubtful they will remain long either - especially when the Nexus won't sell as much as they hoped for.
Mind you, it's mostly intended to be a Kindle Fire killer, and Amazon doesn't care - you can consume their content on the Nexus too, just not as well.
If anything, this stands the potential to collapse the "tablet market" for Android devices further, leaving, at the end of the day, Samsung, Amazon, and Google - and a lot of consumers that will just pick up an iPad.
Exclusive: Google's Rubin and Asus's Shih on Cooking Up the Nexus 7 - Ina Fried - Mobile - AllThingsD
Exclusive: Google’s Andy Rubin and Asus’ Jonney Shih on How They Cooked Up the Nexus 7
Building the Nexus 7 tablet was no easy task, says Asus Chairman Jonney Shih.
First off, Google gave the company only four months to build the product. Then there was the task of building a high-end tablet that could sell for just $200. Plus, he said, Google can be kind of demanding.
“Our engineers told me it is like torture,” Shih said in an interview on Wednesday, shortly after the Google-Asus joint project was announced. “They ask a lot.”
That said, Shih said his team has learned a ton from working so closely with Google’s engineers.
To pull off “Project A-Team,” as the tablet effort was known inside Asus, Shih sent people to work at various locations, including Silicon Valley. That put his workers closer to Google, and also allowed his engineering team to have a 24-hour development cycle. Even then, Shih said, he had to add another 20 people to the project. And then another 20.
Rubin gives Shih and the team at Asus immense credit.
“I don’t think there would have been any other partner that could move that fast.,” Rubin told AllThingsD. “We went from zero to working product in four months.”
But, having built the device, the big question now is will consumers bite?
Rubin admits that he was upset a year ago that Android tablets just weren’t selling. After looking into some of the reasons, Rubin learned that while hardware really matters on phones, consumers are buying into a content ecosystem with tablets. Or, in Google’s case, not buying into an ecosystem.
In particular, Rubin said that Google lacked some of the ecosystem pieces that were necessary, such as a full compliment of TV shows, movies for purchase, and magazines that people want to consume on a tablet.
“I think that was the missing piece,” Rubin said.
The amount of tablet-specific apps have also been an issue, but Rubin said Google is sticking with its strategy of encouraging developers to write a single app for both phones and tablets, while taking some care to make sure the layout and button size are optimized for larger-screen devices.
On the hardware side, Shih and Rubin feel they have something that can serve as a full-fledged tablet computer while competing on price with the Kindle Fire. Despite its bargain-basement price, Shih notes that the device packs a high-end laminated display, quad-core chip and other high-end features.
One way the companies managed that is through razor-thin margins. Google is selling the device through its Google Play store, essentially at cost, and also absorbing the marketing costs associated with the device.
“When it gets sold through the Play store, there’s no margin,” Rubin said. “It just basically gets (sold) through.”
However, it appears that the Nexus 7 is headed for retail shelves, as well, though only the plans for the Google Play store were announced on Wednesday.
While that kind of cost structure could make life challenging for any other hardware makers looking to sell Android tablets, Rubin insists there is plenty of room left for Android tablet innovation.
I don't know what makes this stick out from the rest apart from running 4.1, and most people wouldn't even know what that is.
I can understand Amazon flogging so many Fire's, it's on their home page every time someone goes to buy something.
I doubt Google can get away with charging advertisers fortunes and then slapping their own advert on every Google search.
I count 1588 different tablets here, many of them running Android 4.0 and lots of them much cheaper than $200.
SUNSKY - Tablet PC
Yet, that's what they did, and what they keep doing....Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
You mean to say "I count 1588 shitty tablets here, most of which no one will ever purchase"Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
Link? I haven't seen a single Nexus 7 advert.Quote:
Originally Posted by CthulhuYet, that's what they did, and what they keep doing....Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
Who's actually counting how many they sell?Quote:
You mean to say "I count 1588 shitty tablets here, most of which no one will ever purchase"
No one, which doesn't matter, because no one uses them - last I checked only you and baldrick are raving about ultra-cheap low-so crap.Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
Of course TD's computer news thread is representative of the global market, right?
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I think this one if you want a hernia.
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Kouziro is one large Android-powered tablet
by Edwin - on July 10th, 2012
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Just how large (or small) do you think that an Android-powered tablet should be? Well, many would say that Apple’s offering in the form of the iPad hits the sweet spot at 9.7″ in size, while others figured out that there is also room for a 7″ tablet – and they’re not wrong, either. Well, I suppose there are always trailblazers out there who want to come up with something different, and here we are with the FT103 Kouziro that hails from Frontier, which is a great looking Full HD tablet at 21.5” in size – powered by Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich, of course.
It will run on a 1GHz Dual Core TI OMAP 4428 processor, coupled with 1GB RAM and 8GB of internal memory. Not only that, there are also a couple of USB 2.0 ports, a micro USB port, micro HDMI support, Wi-Fi, Ethernet, and Bluetooth 2.1 connectivity, and a very basic 1.2-megapixel camera. Unfortunately, this little puppy is not exactly what you deem as portable – it tips the scales at a whopping 5 kgs!
^ actually I would have a use for about 100 of those over the next year if they come in at the right price.
would make great wall mounted POS information systems - maybe not robust enough though.
^?
If it's wall mounted why is being robust an issue? Are you thinking of mounting them in aircraft?
The 7" Apple Tab rip off rumours just won't go away....
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Thu, Jul 12 2012 | Published in News Apple’s new iPad Mini will be its ’slimmest ever tablet’
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Apple’s much-rumoured (and now photographed – maybe) iPad Mini will be the Cupertino-based company’s thinnest yet, coming in at just 7.2mm. This comes from a source in Apple’s supply line who spilled the gadget beans to Japanese blog Macotakara.
If true – it will make the iPad Mini thinner than the Kindle Fire, Nexus 7 and Toshiba AT200.
The nano-sized slate is expected to be announced with the new iPhone 5 in September. It’s expected to land in the UAE in time for Christmas in December.
Here’s a few more tech tidbits we picked up from the Apple source:
iPad Mini 3G
The source stated that the iPad Mini will land with built-in 3G, like Apple’s current range of tablets. That means it’ll beat out the Wi-Fi only Google NExus 7 and Amazon Kindle.
iPad Mini price
The super-slim tablet will come with highly-specced innards, including a Retina Display to make the most of that now smaller 7in screen estate. It won’t be the cheapest tablet on the block, but the iPad Mini is expected to cost between US$250 and US$360. That will put it bang in Amazon and Google territory for 7in slates.
iPad Mini from Brazil
The iPad Mini is expected to be the first product to roll out of Foxconn’s new Brazilian plant. Production of the new tablet is expected to kick off in September.
Are you in the market for a 7in slate? Would you pick up the iPad Mini if it comes to gadget fruition? Let us know in the comments below – or let us know on Facebook and Twitter.
No, they won't go away, and as before, they are wrong.
It won't be an iPad.
No, it will be an iPad Mini.
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It won't be anywhere close to the iPad family. While the dimensions are something "do-able" in terms of keeping it developer friendly, I don't see the advantage for Apple in a 7.85" form factor.
Mind you, I would *LOVE* to have one, as it would fit perfectly in my car's console, and I would buy one just for that, but I don't really see the advantage, at this point in time, to Apple releasing such a thing.
"To counter the rise of the 7" tablets, that are eating it's lunch" you might say, but realistically, they aren't. $199 is not a market that Apple wants to play in, and the rather large market of used Kindles (and other 7" tablets) indicates that the 7" form factor is a good "entry level drug" to the tablet market, and that those early adopters are then moving on to an iPad when they have outgrown the Kindle - at least that's what the numbers indicate, with the "other tablet" market shrinking from quarter to quarter, and the iPad gaining market during that same time. Mind you, this is also correlated with the Kindle sales initially being very strong, albeit very brisk, as Amazon has seen a shrinkage of their sales of over 70%. Apple hasn't. While it still sells out of every iPad it sells.
Combine that with the new iPhone to be released in September (well, really, October), the upcoming holiday season, and a new iPad (4) coming in April of next year, there isn't really any special reason for Apple to release something new in the iPad family this year.
... unless everyone is forgetting that Apple needs to release a new version of the *iPod Touch* this year (also in September, well, October) - which is getting dated, and traditionally either sported pre-iPhone tech, or post-iPhone tech (back when the new iPhone came out in July). Take that to the logical conclusion, and you might have Apple release a new iPod Touch in that form factor, and that's really a HUGE *maybe* - albeit the price points of the iPod Touch would coincide with what Apple could package and sell it for.
- WiFi only.
- 16GB version for $249 or $299
- 32GB version for $349 or $399
- a 3G version would be nice, but then it'd be an iPad. Without 3G, it's an iPod Touch :-)
(it could be combined with the discontinuation of the iPad 2 16GB model at $399
- albeit I don't have those sales number handy right now - I think it is still selling significantly well to be worth keeping in the pipeline) - though the 'competing' devices really wouldn't be - no more so than the iPod mini competed with the original iPod (the trade-off is size for price).
Most of all, it would be an important way for Apple to test the waters, if they wanted - which they claim often that they don't do, but they do.
Still, I'm not convinced yet of such a thing being out - there'd be more parts and samples sneaking to the surface by now.
Not convinced? You were guaranteeing it a few days ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cthulhu
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I don't see an "advantage" - I just see Apple (for a change) seeing a market in which other people are making money, and which would probably be quite easy for them to enter.
Apple does things for two reasons - because they are good for Apple, and because they are better solutions for their customers.
I just don't see either favors being met here. The only other reason coud be by seeing a way to destroy Android, but they are already doing that in the tablet space, and by September will be doling out some serious pain to Google (no, not with new iPhone).
Yeah, that's where the "making money" thing comes in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cthulhu
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no fucking shit ??? what about other IT companies ? they don't do that ? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Cthulhu
I am ignorant, forgive me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chairman Mao
the 16 gb and 64 gb is storage on the hard drive (or whatever the ipad has eh)?
I read the whole thread.
16Gb, 32GB, and 64GB is internal storage space (flash drive,technically) that is used for storage of documents and data.
because I don't want somebody putting their fist through one of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
What kind of price are you looking at ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gerbil
I've seen the touch screen all in one PC's that run on Windows, not that shit Android for 13,000 baht in Tesco Lotus. I can't remember the make, but it's a well known brand
Just googled and that Kourizo is more expensive !!!!
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The marketing of this tablet is only in Japan and it’s clear that it would be sole Japan sale only. This is priced at approximately 35,000 yen available later in July. We personally doubt whether it would be shipped to other countries
SD card :rofl: you'd have to be a retard or a Jap to consider buying one of thoseQuote:
Its equipped with 8 GB of internal memory capacity and it would also include various connectivity options like USB slot, Ethernet cable and the 1.3 mega pixel front facing camera. Fortunately there is a micro SD card slot by which you can pump in additional amount of storage to include more memory. The tablet is with Wi Fi internet access as well as the Bluetooth 2.1 + EDR option as well.
Not sure at the moment. All in the concept stage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kwang
But I cant imagine the screen is going to be anywhere robust enough to put up with the abuse that it would get, even from normal people thumping away to get information.
Just compare the 'fragileness' of a tablet screen with the touch screens you see in other locations (ticket machines, info displays, etc).
Gorilla Glass is pretty durable, Toshiba ( which is who I think is the PC all in one manufacturer I was thinking of) do a 13" tab with it, 650 bucks though !!
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Toshiba announces Excite 10, 7.7 and 13 tablets, Thrive slates on their way out
Toshiba announces Excite 10, 7.7 and 13 tablets, Thrive slates on their way out -- EngadgetQuote:
You complained, Toshiba listened. After its Thrive tablets were widely panned for their short battery life and chunky, cheap-feeling design, the outfit decided to put those models out to pasture and start anew. So bid goodbye to the Thrives, then, and say hello to the Excite 7.7, 10 and 13 (yes, 13). If you've been paying attention, these are the same tablets we first saw in prototype form at CES (and again at Mobile World Congress), complete with their slim builds and textured aluminum backs. Now, though we know that all three will pack NVIDIA's Tegra 3 SoC, and ship with unskinned Ice Cream Sandwich. The 7.7, in particular, sports the same AMOLED display inside the Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.7, while the 13-incher steps up to 1600 x 900 resolution (as opposed to 1280 x 800). Oh, and for those of you who think you'll miss the 10-inch Thrive's full-sized SD slot, that feature carries over to the Excite 10 and 13. (As you can imagine, there was no room for the full-sized USB and HDMI ports on tablets this thin.)
Before we go any further, though, we're sure you want to hear more about that 13-incher in particular. First off, no, we're not joking. This is a 13-inch ARM-powered tablet. Not a 13-inch slate with Ultrabook specs; just a really big Android tablet. Why would you want such a thing, you ask? Well, Toshiba's banking on you using this indoors, particularly in the kitchen where you might want to glance at recipes or the weather forecast. In conversations about the product, company reps emphasized the tablet's tough Gorilla Glass display, though they seem oblivious to the fact that you could do all of the above with a $400 iPad 2, or any other mid-range tablet, for that matter. It's an important thing to consider, given that the Excite 13 will set you back a princely $650 for 32GB when it goes on sale June 10th.
In addition, the Excite 13 will be available with 64GB of storage for $750 (!). The Excite 7.7 is also coming June 10th, at which point it'll cost $500 for the 16GB flavor and $580 for the 32GB configuration. The 10-inch will beat them both to market, arriving May 6th starting at $500 for 16GB of built-in storage. There will also be a 32GB version for $530 and a 64GB number for $650. For now, we've got photos below, and you can check out our hands-on from CES if you prefer your gadget porn have some video.
Not sure what you are saying here - capacitive screens should be your desired goal (as in most tablets) as they do not have any moving parts, nor components that can be damaged from abuse -- on the other hand, most of the kiosk-like applications you listed make use of resistive touchscreens, which use a surface membrane that eventually wears out or gets abused.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gerbil
The only advantage of resistive screens is that they work for people wearing gloves (as it senses actual pressure), instead of responding to the skin's capacitive resistance.
As Kwang points out, Gorilla Glass is frequently used these days, for tough applications, and there's not much "fragile" about it, for kiosk applications.