How much news is being repressed?

[VocalNeal]

Gossip, the lifeline of rural Thai communication.......

There are three types of mass communication in Thailand

Telephone

Television

Tela-Thai

[Zooheekock]

Absolute melodramatic rubbish.

Certain hardcore channels have been blocked - but that's expected.

"1000's" - You're as bad as betty.

Some 3,000 illegal community radio stations which were closed down by the National Council for Peace and Order since the military takeover on May 22 will not be allowed to resume operations, said Mr Sanya Krachangsri, head of the Ubon Ratchathani region of the National Broadcasting and Telecommunications Commission, today

As for the licensed community radio stations, he explained that the first 500 “primary” community radio stations would soon be allowed to go on air but under certain restrictions laid down by the NBTC such as the content to be aired must not be deemed incitement of public unrest, no political content and the stations must be operated by the licencees or by someone authorized by the licencees.

Also, the transmitters must be subjected to examination and approved by officials from the NBTC. If it is discovered later on that unapproved transmitters are used, the operators will have their licenses revoked.

For some 5,000 licensed secondary community radio stations, Mr Sanya said that not all of them would be allowed to resume operations. Under a new condition recently set, each operator which is a legal entity can operate only one radio station in each province.

Last but not least, he said that before the resumption of broadcast, each operator will be required to sign a memorandum of understanding with the NBTC committing himself to comply with the rules or conditions set by the NBTC.

3,000 illegal community radio stations face permanent closure | Thai PBS English News

Your apology is accepted.

[Zooheekock]

This is where you little part time hobby activists are wrong. They dont really care and the evidence is all around you.

The evidence all around is soldiers with M16s, mass internment, mass censorship and a military dictator who 4 years ago helped to use snipers against pro-democracy activists. And who is the hobby activist? Your boot-licking protestations before the oh-so-handsome 18-year-olds in khaki is just as much a political opinion as anyone else's and the seeming total vacuum of information from which you form your asinine opinions hardly qualifies you as a professional, does it?

So the TD crew are those that don't take this shit more seriously than even the Thais themselves and don't fall in line with the constant vitorol of the very vocal minority.

Here we come closer to the crux of the matter - the absurd, and fundamentally racist, assumption that there is one Thai way of thinking about this. As if it's anything other than pathetically stupid to think that from the fact that your wife thinks a certain way, you can deduce how 60 million other people think.

Lots and lots and lots of Thais are seriously fucked off with the coup. Just go online and read and you will find out. Does that mean that everyone thinks like that? Of course it doesn't. And it doesn't mean that any but a small minority are ever going to go out and demonstrate but that's true in every country. How many Americans ever went on an anti-Iraq war demo? And how does that square with the polling data? You'd have to be a complete fucking cretin to think that the fact that the demonstrations are so limited at the moment means that nobody cares. Really, just an unbelievably stupid thing to say.

So the TD crew are basically normal posters not radical activists for foreign politics.

You seem pretty unequivocally in favour of military dictatorship over democracy. I realise that in such profoundly unnatural environments as Teakdoor and Thaivisa, that's perfectly normal but in any society not composed almost entirely of weirdos, racists and retards, that would be considered both pretty fucking extreme and pretty fucking abnormal.

[Albert Shagnastier]

^^Nice try but you dig an even bigger hole.

You said "1000's of Community radio stations have been shut down"

your article above says "3000 ILLEGAL community stations face permanent closure"

You see the difference there?

By omiting the word "illegal" you spin the whole story.

So illegal radio stations are being shut down. Tell me - what do they do to illegal radio stations in the US or the UK.

Yes, you've guessed it - they shut them down.

[Albert Shagnastier]

The evidence all around is soldiers with M16s, mass internment, mass censorship and a military dictator who 4 years ago helped to use snipers against pro-democracy activists.

Once again - melodramatic and fear mongering rhetoric.

In BKK there are no soldiers on the street and everything is business as usual.

No mass internments.

No media blocks - over and above what you'd expect in a difficult political situation. Certainly no communication blackouts - and no propaganda being spewed.

Your spin version,

"Snipers on buildings taking out civilians"

The reality,

There was a night of heavy rioting in BKK and the military were using live rounds as were the protestors. Sadly both civilians and soldiers lost their lives that night.

[FlyFree]

What a weird thread. I'm not talking about Al here, he's just trying to get attention.

But amidst a total crackdown on news and communication there seem to be lots of people who would otherwise consider themselves to have some sort of functioning brain sprouting total crap - confidently - as to how good things are based on talking to a few Thai around them. Nevermind the basic fact that those selfsame few Thai would probably never tell them what they really think anyhow.

Gives a whole new depth to the term 'moron', doesn't it?


And just for good measure, we have ZeCock talking sense.



I think I need a drink.

[Zooheekock]

^ I can't be fucking arsed. It's as pointless as arguing for gay rights at Westboro Baptist Church.

[Zooheekock]

^ That should be pointing at Albert's post but I seem to have had my editing rights removed.

[9999]

The evidence all around is soldiers with M16s, mass internment, mass censorship and a military dictator who 4 years ago helped to use snipers against pro-democracy activists.

Spare us the dramatics. The country is much more orderly than under the Yingluck Govt, but you extremists dont really care about the state of the nation, and have your western ideals in such high regard which the people you are trying to represent actually find a bit patronizing.

Your boot-licking protestations before the oh-so-handsome 18-year-olds in khaki is just as much a political opinion as anyone else's and the seeming total vacuum of information from which you form your asinine opinions hardly qualifies you as a professional, does it?

The only opinion I have is that you guys with strong opinions on Thai politiocs are not only sad, but overplaying it and care so much more than any Thai I have seen (oh but wait, I don't subscribe to fringe extremist attention seeking twitter accounts so I guess I'm just ignorant and missing the 'voice of the people')

Here we come closer to the crux of the matter - the absurd, and fundamentally racist, assumption that there is one Thai way of thinking about this. As if it's anything other than pathetically stupid to think that from the fact that your wife thinks a certain way, you can deduce how 60 million other people think.

Funny how you guys think just like Suthep when it pleases you. The overwhelming opinion on TD is that yourself, BB et al are a pack of raving loonies. This majority view is dismissed in a series of insults and condescension. Because the prevailing view is different to your own, you see it as worthless. This is exactly Suthep's view on democracy, so if you live by your own virtue, you'd have the no 1 person 1 vote thingy, a bit hyypocritical dont you think.

in any society not composed almost entirely of weirdos, racists and retards, that would be considered both pretty fucking extreme and pretty fucking abnormal.

Here you go agaijn. The democratic majority disagrees with you so you lash out with irrational insults. I suppose you would have TD as an autocracy run by a select few who's views were superior in order to run a site. The voice of the majority is meaningless because you are outvoted and no one agrees, so you and your mates should just make all the calls. Sound familiar?

[Albert Shagnastier]

That should be pointing at Albert's post but I seem to have had my editing rights removed.

The Lord moves in mysterious ways son.

[9999]

But amidst a total crackdown on news and communication there seem to be lots of people who would otherwise consider themselves to have some sort of functioning brain sprouting total crap - confidently - as to how good things are based on talking to a few Thai around them. Nevermind the basic fact that those selfsame few Thai would probably never tell them what they really think anyhow.

Not everyone is passionate about politics, or has much care for what does not affect them. I look around me and see Thais getting on and not caring. Do I not have enough exposure to Thais? Are the Thais I asscoiate with not relevant? Do we have to go and speak to 1000's of Thais to know this whole thing is being beat up, and aided by the likes of zoo and BB for the selfish pursuit of their political hobbies they will one day abandon when something more interesting comes along? Bit of a joke innit. Tell the extremists off for being extreme, and suddenly you're an oppressive junta supporter

If I had to weigh in with a political opinion, I'd say the country is way better off under the junta than Yingluck. Go ask the farmers what they would prefer? random fb extreme fb pages blocked but they get paid, or elections, another Yingluck govt and they get nothing? It's pretty obvious whats best for the nation but I dont go around spewing my unwanted views. This hysterical lefty mob couldnt give a fuck whats best for Thailand stacked up against their western lefty ideals, and furthermore they think everyone cares about and wants to hear their views.

It's funny, I dont get many greens. I got a full book for this thread. The people have spoken! BB and Zoo should just STFU about Thai politics. There not much left to say they haven't already said at least 50 times over anyway.

[Albert Shagnastier]

Not everyone is passionate about politics, or has much care for what does not affect them. I look around me and see Thais getting on and not caring. Do I not have enough exposure to Thais? Are the Thais I asscoiate with not relevant? Do we have to go and speak to 1000's of Thais to know this whole thing is being beat up, and aided by the likes of zoo and BB for the selfish pursuit of their political hobbies they will one day abandon when something more interesting comes along? Bit of a joke innit. Tell the extremists off for being extreme, and suddenly you're an oppressive junta supporter If I had to weigh in with a political opinion, I'd say the country is way better off under the junta than Yingluck. Go ask the farmers what they would prefer? random fb extreme fb pages blocked but they get paid, or elections, another Yingluck govt and they get nothing? It's pretty obvious whats best for the nation but I dont go around spewing my unwanted views. This hysterical lefty mob couldnt give a fuck whats best for Thailand stacked up against their western lefty ideals, and furthermore they think everyone cares about and wants to hear their views. It's funny, I dont get many greens. I got a full book for this thread. The people have spoken! BB and Zoo should just STFU about Thai politics. There not much left to say they haven't already said at least 50 times over anyway.

Spot on mate

You just got another one too.

[Butterfly]

I am not happy with coup either, but it's still a better alternative to what what's coming

and frankly, coup in Thailand are pretty much civilized, with a few notable exceptions

Thai politicians like Suthep and Thaksin were really stirring the pot and trying to put the country into a bloody civil war so they could get their way

as long as you will have politicians like Suthep, Chalerm, Thaksin, there will be no Democracy possible, as those characters only think in terms of win and lose for political power, and they don't care about sharing responsibilities. And let's be honest, responsibility is not a national character trait for the whole population, as we all know.

[9999]

as long as you will have politicians like Suthep, Chalerm, Thaksin, there will be no Democracy possible, as those characters only think in terms of win and lose for political power, and they don't care about sharing responsibilities. And let's be honest, responsibility is not a national character trait for the whole population, as we all know.

While we're throwing around our own irrelevant western opinions of Thai politics, I'd like to take the Honesty of Butters a step further, and say the Thai populace is not responsible enough or capable of having reasonable elections. The PDRC is clearly a joke and not fair, what is the best option left? Albert previously pointed out all the good things the junta has done. At the expense of what? some extremists have been silenced? ofc the loonies will say it's about the shitty Thai company I keep, but the Thais truly seem to prefer the army of Yingluck. The curfew is not bound to last, so I really see this military junta as nothing but a good thing. Maybe some other less than stable democracies should take heed of Thailand's shrewd lead.

[Butterfly]

Thai populace is not responsible enough or capable of having reasonable elections.

when they are selling their votes for 300 THB, they certainly don't

if they had any sense of decency and credibility, they wouldn't take the money from either side

[9999]

if they had any sense of decency and credibility, they wouldn't take the money from either side

But they do. The MIL certainly does. There's actually 2 newspaper clipping with her in it back in the 2010 strife, one in the yellow camp another in the red. Cant really blame her or others either, they are so distanced from these games being played at the upper echelons using the people and a few falangs like BB and zoo as pawns, why should they care or do anything other than cash in? Goes to show how much Thai people care. At least in this area no one gives a shit and this is a supposedly hard core red area. My scenario though is much different to the hysterical tefler mob surrounded by Thais who want to tear down the army and the establishment but are too scared and need some falangs to prep them up of course this silent majority of politically passionate Thais would never take an election bribe

[9999]

Looks like the forgot to supress the news of the esteemed junta cracking down on the Phuket mafias that have eluded 'real' governments for decades. I kind of like the take no shit stance from the army. Phuket scams are not the flavour of the month though, so expect this to be quashed for some insidious reason by the ever fickle TDFTFFD (Teak Door Falang Teflers for Farcical Democracy).



The head cop himself says they can only move here with the military. But alas, this does not agree with the line of the loony lefty falang saviours so they will no doubt fabricate an ulterior motive for the army moving on this, and gloss over why it was always allowed to run in their beloved Yingluck govt.

[Thormaturge]

By omiting the word "illegal" you spin the whole story.

So illegal radio stations are being shut down. Tell me - what do they do to illegal radio stations in the US or the UK.

The UK and US do not close down stations simply because they broadcast information that is deemed unfavourable to the government, but then the US and UK are not under Martial Law.

[Albert Shagnastier]

By omiting the word "illegal" you spin the whole story.

So illegal radio stations are being shut down. Tell me - what do they do to illegal radio stations in the US or the UK.

The UK and US do not close down stations simply because they broadcast information that is deemed unfavourable to the government, but then the US and UK are not under Martial Law.

ILLEGAL community radio stations
community radio stations.

See the difference there?

You think you can just set up a transmitter and arial and say what you want in the UK?


I used to play on pirate radio as a teenager and it was illegal - and all we were doing was playing jungle music - no politics.

Here people set up what they want when they want - it's Thailand.

I think you are well aware of the disgusting vitriol spewed forth by both sides inciting hatred and discord.

So the army shuts down the hate mongers.

The UK should have shut down abu hamza a lot earlier too.

[FloridaBorn]

^^Nice try but you dig an even bigger hole.

You said "1000's of Community radio stations have been shut down"

your article above says "3000 ILLEGAL community stations face permanent closure"

You see the difference there?

By omiting the word "illegal" you spin the whole story.

So illegal radio stations are being shut down. Tell me - what do they do to illegal radio stations in the US or the UK.

Yes, you've guessed it - they shut them down.

Who said they're illegal? By who's standards? And do you have ANY clue how many radio stations and other sources of communication in the past under similar circumstances have been considered illegal by military junta's and other dictatorships that were labeled such in the name of politics in order to shut them down?

The US and the UK presumably have a legal process they go through before arbitrarily shutting down such media sources and it's not done by a military junta.. Weak straw man, raise your game.. Though the impression is you've already raised it as far as you can, which is pretty weak..

[FloridaBorn]

In BKK there are no soldiers on the street and everything is business as usual.

Absolutely utter nonsense! (I'd like to use a harsher tone) My missus works downtown and sees them every day going to work and EVERY single one of the most recent media pics has come from downtown Bangkok, or are those fabricated in your simple little mind too? Besides I read somewhere recently you were in Phuket so which is it? You seem to get around a lot in a very short period of time..

[FloridaBorn]

What a weird thread. I'm not talking about Al here, he's just trying to get attention.

But amidst a total crackdown on news and communication there seem to be lots of people who would otherwise consider themselves to have some sort of functioning brain sprouting total crap - confidently - as to how good things are based on talking to a few Thai around them. Nevermind the basic fact that those selfsame few Thai would probably never tell them what they really think anyhow.

Gives a whole new depth to the term 'moron', doesn't it?


And just for good measure, we have ZeCock talking sense.



I think I need a drink.

No shit! I'm with you, you buy the first round, I don't even drink and this thread is pushing me that way as my head is spinning already with the tripe being posted so why not?

[BaitongBoy]

the Honesty of Butters

Is this a new gay porno movie?...

[BaitongBoy]

when they are selling their votes for 300 THB, they certainly don't
if they had any sense of decency and credibility, they wouldn't take the money from either side

Butters still in first grade...Yawn...Retard...

[Thormaturge]

I think you are well aware of the disgusting vitriol spewed forth by both sides inciting hatred and discord.

So the army shuts down the hate mongers.

....er no. The army shuts down the hate mongers on one side of the debate...the side it deems illegal. You can continue to spew forth any amount of anti-Thaksin, anti Pheu Thai, vitriol and that's perfectly legal.

Imagine the US with a Republican government and they shut down everything except Fox News.