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    After viewing this,you will never wish to visit Shianoukville

    Especially if you had been there pre 2015


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    I had the impression it was a tip twenty years ago.

    Not sure a video you can't embed of a place you can't spell will leave me better informed.

    It's the same with Phuket, really.

    Don't you realise the 'they're not what they used to be' tales of these places were going around decades before you got there?

    It doesn't seem to have stopped you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phuketrichard View Post
    Especially if you had been there pre 2015

    Changed a bit in 15 yrs!

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    Sorry misspelled Sihanoukville

    Hope i didn't hurt ur feelings to much
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    I long for the days of breakfast at Browns back in 2008 on Victory beach

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phuketrichard View Post
    After viewing this,you will never wish to visit Shianoukville
    Two day gig there beginning of January . . . but it is awful, but then it's just another Asian city modernising and growing too quickly

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    but it is awful, but then it's just another Asian city modernising and growing too quickly .......
    ........ and sucking the chinese cock.

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    Places change, whether better or worse depends on your perspective. I don't like lots of people but others do.

    Maybe the village I grew out of so quickly was the one in which I should have stayed. Such philosophising means the wine was good tonight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    ........ and sucking the chinese cock.
    As opposed to Russian? Or American? Or British?

    Is one worse than the other?

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    some posters do seem to have a particular thing for the chinese ones.

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    Jeez, when I was there back in 2002 it was a sleepy village with gated guest houses and clear seas with no mither .
    Cheap as chips also, no atms back then.
    Baht or dollars....

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    Last time I was in Phnom Pehn I asked some locals about Sihanoukvile and whether it was worthwhile visiting and they all told me the Chinese have ruined the place.

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    20 years ago they just told me it was a dump.

    Now I guess there's someone else to blame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    Places change, whether better or worse depends on your perspective. I don't like lots of people but others do.

    Maybe the village I grew out of so quickly was the one in which I should have stayed. Such philosophising means the wine was good tonight.
    economic growth will destroy culture and history, Beijing is the perfect example for that

    thank god in Europe, it's the opposite, local colorful villages in England, France etc... are being deserted economically, and therefore completely preserved for future tourists activities

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phuketrichard View Post
    Especially if you had been there pre 2015

    Un far king believable.

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    China is a virus that is destroying everything it touches. In the end it will eat itself but by then the cancer of its hegemony will have devoured all in its insatiable maw.

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    The chinese forever changed the area in 3 short years


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    Get ova it bitches, the world is fluid Bra, ya gota go with the flow.

    Shit changes and if ya wanna everything to be like yesterday go back ta ya mummies womb eh.

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    You stupid fuck, they've destroyed the fucking place having sold their soul to the Chinks and instead of controlled development they have an incoherent concretisation of a tropical seaside resort turning it into a fucking monstrosity without any style, plan or infrastructure.

    Contrast that fucking aberration with Penang's Georgetown which was designated a UNESCO heritage site because they realised the inner city of 200 year old shophouses with its arcade architecture and integrated run-off drainage systems was worth preserving and the high rise development was zoned elsewhere by Gurney Drive etc. It's a treasure trove of urban development over its 250 years life encompassing myriad styles whereas Sihanoukville is a concert abortion midwifed by Chink scum looking to screw the world taking profits and riding roughshod over human rights, freedom and decency.

    Only a moron would accept urban desecration as a natural concomitant to change.

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    Looks great !

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    " in Cambodia, everything is possible.

    No one can say this is a good thing for the locals

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    Wow, it looks totally different from when I was there in 2008.. it was kind of cruddy back then. I found the place not overly clean and the Chinese were starting even back then. Now it looks like Dubai with all the cranes. Sad really.. makes me very angry how China has taken over so many places for development and financial gain.
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    It's just depressing to see those vids, especially the before/after ones in post 16.

    I can see it happening in some parts of PI too. There's a mega construction site in Cavite (formerly Island Cove resort, many vids of the conversion on YT). Lots of Chinese workers, many of them illegally working - on tourist visas, no work permit. They trash the place, smoke in no-smoking zones, are loud, rude, noisy, etc.

    I've stayed in an Airbnb near Manila recently - lots of C-ppl living in the Condo tower. The hallway of the floor I was in - stank of ciggie smoke. The Condo units don't have balconies, so I guess they smoked in their flats and in the hallways. That Condo building was across a mall. On the 3rd floor of that mall, there was a huge online gambling operation, mostly C-workers, mostly men. You can really see the effect of the 1-child policy (probably 10 males to every female worker that I saw). The 3rd floor of that mall stank as well. The poor security guard of the place (Filipino) wore a face mask. I wonder how his lungs are faring.

    In an airport Hotel that I've also stayed recently (September) there were "no spitting, no smoking" signs, both in English & in Chinese characters. That sign wasn't there in the lift when I stayed in the same hotel earlier this year.

    That's progress... sigh...
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealKW View Post
    As opposed to Russian? Or American? Or British?

    Is one worse than the other?
    I will rely on your undoubtedly vast experience to answer that one.

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