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    Is it cheaper to rent in Cambodia than building a house in Thailand?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweaty View Post
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    Same tax situation as Thailand, and to be fair, the majority of the world.
    Pension income from outside is taxable in Thailand?
    When remitted to Thailand, yes.
    I wonder how many people actually pay that.


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    Sweaty, you heard off "dual tax treaty" look it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Airportwo View Post
    Sweaty, you heard off "dual tax treaty" look it up.
    Nope, but I have heard of a "double tax treaty".

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    Well, I get four monthly pension checks from the US - one USG and three Social Security - and I sure pay no local tax here on any of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
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    Archaeology.
    interesting, you carry the dirt to the truck ? or you actually do the scientific work ?
    He's the one who brushes the dirt off and then calls over the proper archaeologists to have a look.
    You wouldn't know a "proper archaeologist" even if he smacked you in the head.

    There's no such thing, in fact.

    Proper archaeologist!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton View Post
    Well, I get four monthly pension checks from the US - one USG and three Social Security - and I sure pay no local tax here on any of it.
    Are you a resident of Thailand?

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    ^No. Permanent resident Philippines.

    The point, however, is that US pension checks can only be paid into US bank accounts. Once they are paid into my US Citibank account, and I transfer funds when I need to to my Philippine Citibank account, how is the Philippine, or any other country's government, going to know the origin of those funds? It's simply a bank-to-bank wire transfer....are you suggesting those are subject to local tax, in Thailand or anywhere else?
    Last edited by Davis Knowlton; 07-08-2016 at 06:41 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton View Post
    ^No. Permanent resident Philippines.
    Not really relevant to Thai taxation statutes then.

    So I stand by my original statement and would dispute your "Bullshit" claim unless you can prove otherwise.

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    ^ See ^^ above. How would the Thai have any idea that the source of my wire transfer money was from a pension?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton View Post
    ^No. Permanent resident Philippines.

    The point, however, is that US pension checks can only be paid into US bank accounts. Once they are paid into my US Citibank account, and I transfer funds when I need to to my Philippine Citibank account, how is the Philippine, or any other country's government, going to know the origin of those funds? It's simply a bank-to-bank wire transfer....are you suggesting those are subject to local tax, in Thailand or anywhere else?
    Being a US person residing in the Philippines has absolutely no bearing on Thailand's tax regulations.

    Yes, I am not only 'suggesting' but stating that foreign income of resident foreigners when remitted to THAILAND is taxable in THAILAND.

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    Fine. Pay the Thai. Enjoy. I will continue not to pay double taxation here.

    I note that you didn't address my query, but then quite frankly I find you a bit thick, so don't bother trying to work it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton View Post
    ^ See ^^ above. How would the Thai have any idea that the source of my wire transfer money was from a pension?
    When dealing with tax authorities the onus of proof is on the individual. ie prove that the money you have just remitted into Thailand from your foreign account is NOT foreign income.

    I am simply stating Thai tax rules here, not trying to justify the morality of the regulations!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton View Post
    Fine. Pay the Thai. Enjoy. I will continue not to pay double taxation here.

    I note that you didn't address my query, but then quite frankly I find you a bit thick, so don't bother trying to work it out.
    I didn't address your query because quite frankly you edited it.

    Interesting that you think I am a bit thick for simply stating Thai tax regulations.

    Maybe it's you who is 'a bit thick' when your "Bullshit" call was the one that is incorrect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton View Post
    Fine. Pay the Thai. Enjoy. I will continue not to pay double taxation here.
    Hmmm I'm not sure how much more simple I can make this but......

    You are NOT resident in Thailand, Thailand's tax regulations do NOT apply to you.

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    Wow. Three consecutive posts attempting to justify your claim. Don't take it personally, I think a number of posters are thick - you're not alone. I suspect I probably lived in Thailand longer than you have, but that's really neither here nor there. Wallow in your self-righteous ignorance. Have an adequate evening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweaty View Post
    I am not only 'suggesting' but stating that foreign income of resident foreigners when remitted to THAILAND is taxable in THAILAND.
    Hi sweaty.
    Which tax would the remittance be subject to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT View Post
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    Archaeology.
    interesting, you carry the dirt to the truck ? or you actually do the scientific work ?
    He's the one who brushes the dirt off and then calls over the proper archaeologists to have a look.
    You wouldn't know a "proper archaeologist" even if he smacked you in the head.

    There's no such thing, in fact.

    Proper archaeologist!
    Excellent, so you admit you're not a proper archaeologist then.


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    What do you call "a proper archaeologist" harry?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton View Post
    Wow. Three consecutive posts attempting to justify your claim. Don't take it personally, I think a number of posters are thick - you're not alone. I suspect I probably lived in Thailand longer than you have, but that's really neither here nor there. Wallow in your self-righteous ignorance. Have an adequate evening.
    You are correct, length of time lived in Thailand and your opinion on Thai tax regulations have absolutely no bearing on actual Thai tax laws, just as your living in the Philippines and your tax position there have no bearing on tax rules either. Starting to get it yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sweaty View Post
    I am not only 'suggesting' but stating that foreign income of resident foreigners when remitted to THAILAND is taxable in THAILAND.
    Hi sweaty.
    Which tax would the remittance be subject to?
    Personal income tax.

    ::Personal Income Tax::

    But Davis' opinion counts for more because he lived in Thailand once. What would the Thai tax people know about their own laws?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton View Post
    ^ See ^^ above. How would the Thai have any idea that the source of my wire transfer money was from a pension?
    They would not know. The guy shoots himself in the foot because pensions are not included in the assessable income.



    Assessable income is divided into 8 categories as follows :
    income from personal services rendered to employers;

    income by virtue of jobs, positions or services rendered;

    income from goodwill, copyright, franchise, other rights, annuity or income in the nature of yearly payments derived from a will or any other juristic Act or judgment of the Court;

    income in the nature of dividends, interest on deposits with banks in Thailand, shares of profits or other benefits from a juristic company, juristic partnership, or mutual fund, payments received as a result of the reduction of capital, a bonus, an increased capital holdings, gains from amalgamation, acquisition or dissolution of juristic companies or partnerships, and gains from transferring of shares or partnership holdings;

    income from letting of property and from breaches of contracts, installment sales or hire-purchase contracts;

    income from liberal professions;

    income from construction and other contracts of work;

    income from business, commerce, agriculture, industry, transport or any other activity not specified earlier.

    Pensions are not taxable.

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    It was already so easy to stay as long as you want in Cambodia, so wonder what is the interest of this new visa ?

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    That's what I'm wondering about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by can123 View Post
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    ^ See ^^ above. How would the Thai have any idea that the source of my wire transfer money was from a pension?
    They would not know. The guy shoots himself in the foot because pensions are not included in the assessable income.



    Assessable income is divided into 8 categories as follows :
    income from personal services rendered to employers;

    income by virtue of jobs, positions or services rendered;

    income from goodwill, copyright, franchise, other rights, annuity or income in the nature of yearly payments derived from a will or any other juristic Act or judgment of the Court;

    income in the nature of dividends, interest on deposits with banks in Thailand, shares of profits or other benefits from a juristic company, juristic partnership, or mutual fund, payments received as a result of the reduction of capital, a bonus, an increased capital holdings, gains from amalgamation, acquisition or dissolution of juristic companies or partnerships, and gains from transferring of shares or partnership holdings;

    income from letting of property and from breaches of contracts, installment sales or hire-purchase contracts;

    income from liberal professions;

    income from construction and other contracts of work;

    income from business, commerce, agriculture, industry, transport or any other activity not specified earlier.

    Pensions are not taxable.
    Welcome to the muppet family!
    What do you think an annuity is?

    How's your foot?

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