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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Tell that to the 42% of NaGastanis that aren't?

    What Percentage of Americans Owns Stock?

    by Lydia Saad and Jeffrey M. Jones

    Editor's Note: This article was updated May 12, 2022, with Gallup's latest data pertaining to Americans' stock ownership.


    "WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Gallup finds 58% of Americans reporting that they own stock, based on its April Economy and Personal Finance survey. This is slightly higher than the 56% measured in 2021 and 55% measured in 2020 but is not a statistically meaningful increase."

    What Percentage of Americans Owns Stock?


    Are they not important in NaGastan?
    After getting crushed by 2 huge bubbles in 2000 and 2008 by cocksuckers like Soros shorting , less regular ppl are in the market anymore. Then the same cocksuckers decided to make a never ending perma bubble

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    Again, not wishing to being a 'the end of the world is nigh' prophet, just an observation that it could be time to sell your risk down.

    When the War in Ukraine started, I went to cash in my 401k/pension fund/superannuation.
    The markets didn't react as I expected so, I went back into International stocks/shares.
    My largest personal holding is in an oil company

    When Janet Yellen started raising US Rates and World Inflation started to spike and I'm back in cash as of about 3 weeks ago.

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    Mortgage demand falls to the lowest level in 22 years amid rising rates and slowing home sales

    Key Points
    • The average contract interest rate for 30-year fixed-rate mortgages with conforming loan balances ($647,200 or less) increased to 5.40% from 5.33%.
    • Applications for a mortgage to purchase a home fell 7% for the week and were 21% lower than the same week one year ago.
    • Refinance demand dropped 6% for the week and was down 75% year over year.


    Mortgage demand falls to the lowest level in 22 years


    A US example, but echoes around the world.

    snubbs, maybe sell down your property portfolio
    Someone is sitting in the shade today because someone planted a tree a long time ago ...


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    OECD doubles 2022 inflation forecast in 38-nation group to 8.5%

    The OECD warned Wednesday that the world economy will pay a "hefty price" for Russia's invasion of Ukraine as it slashed its 2022 growth forecast and projected higher inflation.
    The Paris-based organisation, which represents 38 mostly developed countries, is the latest institution to predict lower GDP growth due to the conflict, which has sent food and energy prices soaring.

    In its latest economic outlook, the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development said global gross domestic product would grow by three percent in 2022, down sharply from the 4.5 percent estimated in December.


    OECD doubles 2022 inflation forecast in 38-nation group to 8.5% - World News

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    Last one ...

    World Bank warns recession 'hard to avoid' and Ukraine war creating a 'perfect storm'


    The World Bank has warned the hopes of averting recession for all countries will fade the longer the war in Ukraine continues.

    Key points:


    • The World Bank has dropped global growth rates to 2.9 per cent, down on the 4.1 per cent it had predicted in January
    • The sharp downgrade for the world's economy is also based on the potential return of "stagflation"
    • The agency also predicts 3 per cent global growth for2023 and 2024


    World Bank president David Malpass said for many countries "recession will be hard to avoid."

    The agency has now predicted the world economy will expand 2.9 per cent this year, but that's down on the 4.1 per cent it had forecast back in January.

    The sharp downgrade for the world's economy is also based on the potential return of "stagflation" — a toxic mix of high inflation and sluggish growth unseen for more than four decades.

    Ayhan Kose, director of the Prospects Group at the World Bank, said geopolitical tension, combined with interest rates rising and COVID disruptions, could create a "perfect storm".

    "When you put the three of them together, if those three risks materialise, we can easily find ourselves in the midst of a perfect storm," Mr Kose said.
    "That type of storm will push the growth rate this year to 2 per cent and next year, at the global level, 1.5 per cent.

    "When you have a growth rate at the global level around 1.5 per cent, that means you are in a very serious, severe downturn."

    The agency doesn't foresee a much brighter picture in 2023 and 2024: It predicts just 3 per cent global growth for both years.


    World Bank warns recession '''hard to avoid''' and Ukraine war creating a '''perfect storm''' - ABC News

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    Quote Originally Posted by David48atTD View Post
    Last one ...

    World Bank warns recession 'hard to avoid' and Ukraine war creating a 'perfect storm'


    The World Bank has warned the hopes of averting recession .
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    Recessions are supposed to be natural part of the business and credit cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David48atTD View Post
    Mortgage demand falls to the lowest level in 22 years
    The NaGastan citizens should have taken out a fixed rate, maximum mortgage on their property and bought NaGastan MIC stocks.

    Quote Originally Posted by David48atTD View Post
    38 mostly developed countries
    The other 157 countries will survive as usual.

    Quote Originally Posted by David48atTD View Post
    World Bank warns recession 'hard to avoid' and Ukraine war creating a 'perfect storm'
    The recession was already baked in, their illegal sanctions was the icing, for the 16%. The other 84% will survive as usual.
    A tray full of GOLD is not worth a moment in time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    You drunk trumpanzee imbecile, you have a problem with reality. Obama and his policies pulled America out of the GOP induced depression and into one of the longest periods of prosperity in American history. Fact are facts...

    Obama’s 2009 Recovery Act Kicked Off Over 10 Years Of Economic Growth
    Watch it bsnubbie … you have no idea the amount of knowledge accumulated by one who has 15 online Associate degrees. He be fiddin’ to learn you something.

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    The Dow Jones Industrial Average tumbled below the key 30,000 level on Thursday as investors worried the Federal Reserve’s more aggressive approach toward inflation would bring the economy into a recession.

    Calling a Super Bubble-screenshot-2022-06-17-05-42-a


    The major averages has suffered steep losses this week.
    The S&P 500 is down 6.6%, pulling back more than 24% from its all-time high from early January.
    The blue-chip Dow is off by 5.2% this week, and the Nasdaq has fallen 6.7%.

    The S&P 500 and Nasdaq Composite are both in bear market territory, down roughly 24% and 34% from their all-time highs in January and November, respectively, as rampant inflation and fears of slowing economic growth weigh on investors.
    The Dow, meanwhile, is about 19% below its Jan. 5 all-time intraday high.

    Dow drops more than 700 points to break below 30,000 as recession fears deepen

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    I'm still not impressed with this crash. Another 15-20% and then I'll pay attention.

    I didn't know that the central banks were stupid enough to believe believe that they could raise rates. I thought they were just going for broke. Pedal to the metal until the end. If they are dumb enough to raise rates then we'll get a crash alright

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    Possibly another 10% - 15% to the downside from here. Recovery will not be V shaped as per 2020 (Covid). A protracted U shaped recovery over 2-3 years.

    No point rushing in to buy the dips. Dollar cost averaging will be the way to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David48atTD View Post
    perfect storm
    It sure is and the world is teetering on the brink of a major recession. In the future will have a label like the "dirty 30s".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    It sure is and the world is teetering on the brink of a major recession. In the future will have a label like the "dirty 30s".
    will history repeat and we have a world war ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    It sure is and the world is teetering on the brink of a major recession. In the future will have a label like the "dirty 30s".
    Don’t panic, Covid in 2020 was a far bigger worry for the markets.

    The money printing will begin again by the end of 2022 - this will start another feel good factor and keep us all on the merry go round.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceman123 View Post
    Possibly another 10% - 15% to the downside from here. Recovery will not be V shaped as per 2020 (Covid). A protracted U shaped recovery over 2-3 years.

    No point rushing in to buy the dips. Dollar cost averaging will be the way to go.
    Could be something in that Icey.

    Apparently, referencing the US Market the average Bear Market is about a #30% decline.

    On average, bear markets have taken 13 months to go from peak to trough and 27 months to get back to breakeven since World War II.
    The S&P 500 index has fallen an average of 33% during bear markets in that time.
    The biggest decline since 1945 occurred in the 2007-2009 bear market when the S&P 500 fell 57%

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceman123 View Post
    Don’t panic, Covid in 2020 was a far bigger worry for the markets.

    The money printing will begin again by the end of 2022 - this will start another feel good factor and keep us all on the merry go round.
    We are just beginning to feel the inflation from the 2020 money printing bailouts.

    I didn't expect that the central banks were naive enough to raise rates like this. If they do this for much longer , the houses of cards like tesla will start to come down.

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    This guy is one of my go to guys when I want creditable, 'big picture' financial information.

    Mohamed El-Erian, University of Cambridge Queens’ College president and Bloomberg Opinion columnist, says Federal Reserve President Jerome Powell must address past, present and future issues in his speech at Jackson Hole.



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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    will history repeat and we have a world war ?
    There's one going in Europe and they are trying pretty hard to start one in Asia too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    There's one going in Europe and they are trying pretty hard to start one in Asia too.

    Thought you, OhOh and Sabang said it wasn’t a war? Just an SMO?

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    Quote Originally Posted by David48atTD View Post
    This guy is one of my go to guys when I want creditable, 'big picture' financial information.
    Try Warren Buffet the sage of Omaha, most of what people listen to is just noise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceman123 View Post
    Try Warren Buffet the sage of Omaha, most of what people listen to is just noise.
    The oracle, Warren Buffet is great. But he's largely static, preaching the basics of investing, value investing superbly.

    Where Mohamed El-Erian is more dynamic, more reactive to the changing events.

    Why I like his dynamic element is because I manage my Super/Pension/K41 Fund, as in Cash/Bonds/Local Shares/International Shares, cycling my money through the various options based on how I view the Market.

    I'm in Cash ATM

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    Quote Originally Posted by David48atTD View Post

    Why I like his dynamic element is because I manage my Super/Pension/K41 Fund, as in Cash/Bonds/Local Shares/International Shares, cycling my money through the various options based on how I view the Market.

    I'm in Cash ATM
    Jesus David that’s a lot to be losing sleep over.
    Take your cash today and put it in a Vanguard index fund, if you do not have a Vanguard account just buy VAS on the ASX
    Don’t play with it just leave it until you retire - I’m guessing 12-15 years.

    Very few people beat the market by their own research, same as most professional advisors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrWilly View Post
    Just an SMO?
    I presume you have a link to confirm Russia's governments declaration of war.

    If not you're are wrong, once again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    I presume you have a link to confirm Russia's governments declaration of war.

    If not you're are wrong, once again.
    Oh do fuck off you tiresome twat.

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    C'mon lads keep on topic I am trying to teach Newbie Dave.

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