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    1 rai is 1600sqm

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    Quote Originally Posted by danno5 View Post
    interesting - are there guidelines as to the allowable strength of the bamboo that you used for the structural design - or just a seat-of-the pants approach?
    There are but I can't do the maths, although I don't think it's necessary. I designed the same as if using wood and discussed it with my father who's a builder. He's designed many house, the plans are checked by a structural engineer, but never need changing.

    The bracing for this place isn't fully designed. We are using the 'shake' method!

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    Looks like fun to build

    I hope it works out Ok

    most of the bamboo houses I know are built up on stilts and shake very well

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    My bro in law has a bamboo house.
    Once he disagreed with this father and just left with the house 2 villages away...

    Good luck on you...Seen that it is now used on large schoo; buildings in indonesia, India and other places, I'll dig links for you about this...

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    Quote Originally Posted by forreachingme View Post
    My bro in law has a bamboo house.
    Once he disagreed with this father and just left with the house 2 villages away...

    Good luck on you...Seen that it is now used on large schoo; buildings in indonesia, India and other places, I'll dig links for you about this...
    I'd be interested in hearing about your BIB's house. I'm familiar with the buildings you mention. The school in Bali is called Green School, we visited there are few months ago, very impressive.

    If you have links others may be interested. There's some impressive stuff in Columbia too.

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    I just googled Bamboo school and things pop up...

    There is one webpage giving a 27 page PDF file about the making of a school as well.

    There are project up in Nepal, budget 45'000 Usd per school of 1000 scholars for the making of bamboo schools...

    I made some research on that a few years ago and might well build part of a house with bamboo in the future.

    Regarding the house of the bro in law, probably not worth for you, very basic construction typical of northern Philippines, simple square hut with grass type of roof...He just fold it and carried it away to another place.

    from here :

    www.sheltercentre.org/.../BAMBOO+SCHOOL+BUILDING


    Links from the PDF about bamboo:
    Reading Materials
    1. Gutierrez J.A. 2000. Structural Adequacy of Traditional Bmaboo Housing in Latin
    America. INBAR technical report no. 19.
    2. Janssen J. A. 1988: Building with Bamboo. University of Eindhoven, The Netherlands
    3. Janssen J.A. 2000 : Designing and Building with Bamboo. INBAR Technical Report
    No 20.
    4. Janssen J.A. 2000: Building with Bamboo: A handbook. Intermediate Technology
    Publications limited. 103-105 Southampton Row, London WC1B 4HH, UK
    5. Diane Diacon (1998) Housing the homeless in Equador: Affordable housing for the
    poorest of the poor. Published by Building and Social Housing Foundation, Memorial
    Square, Coalville, LE 67 3UT, UK
    6. Janssen J. A. 1991: Mechanical Properties of Bamboo. Eindhoven University of
    Technology. Published by Kluwer Academic Publishers, the Netherlands.
    7. Jayanetti D. L. and Follet P. R. 1998 : Bamboo in Construction: An introduction.
    Published by TRADA and INBAR for DFID
    8. Bamboo for Sustainable Development (1998):. Proceedings of the 5th International
    bamboo congress and the 5th International Bamboo workshop. INBAR proceeding No.
    7. Editors: Kumar A., Ramanuja Rao I.V. and Sastry C. B.
    9. Bamboo Current Research (1988) Proceeding of the International Bamboo Workshop
    November 14-18, 1988 Cochin, India. Editors: I.V. Ramanunja Rao, R.Gnanaharan and
    Charla B. Sastry.
    10. Bamboo, People, The environment (1995) Vol. 3. INBAR Technical report No. 8.
    Editors: Ramanuja Rao I.V. and Sastry C.B. (Ed.)
    11. INBAR: Transfer of Technology Model (TOTEM): Low Cost Bamboo based houses:
    Viviendas Del Hogar de Cristo, Guayaquil, Equador.
    12. Jorge Moran Ubidia: Building with Bamboo: A Doing yourself Manual. Special Edition
    for Workshop in Aizahal (Indian) Organized by INBAR and UNIDO-CBCT
    13. Jorge Moran Ubidia: Traditional Bamboo Preservation method in Latin America
    (2003)-
    14. IPITRI: Bamboo Housing Construction Techniques: Do it yourself

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    Significant more replies here than that other forum !!!

    Good to see TD take on board alternative ideas.....although KW has already adopted this in other ways of life...

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    Once the trusses were in place, the ridge and other purlins were added.




    The scaffolding being used shows the strength of bamboo.




    For rafters, we are using the smaller diameter bamboo, besides holding the thatching, these add bracing.




    The pic below shows where we were at when I left the job Monday, to return to work in Bangkok.



    They are now adding the thatch, which should be done when I return on Friday. The guys have been working really hard in 40 degree heat to get to this stage. Once the roof is on we can breath a sigh of relief knowing the bamboo is protected from the sun and rains (which could start any day).

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    photos not work or is it juz me...

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    so far it looks like any traditional bamboo house, albeit larger

    except for the concrete bit

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    ^ The high pitch roof is common in traditional buildings in tropical area. It allows ventilation so heat isn't trapped and extends the life of the thatch.

    The main differences between this and traditional bamboo buildings are:
    - Life span
    - Use of treated bamboo
    - Nut and bolt joins
    - Size

    Bamboo joinery is difficult, as this our first attempt we didn't want to be too ambitious.

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    The logging camps I worked on in Sarawak used bamboo buildings .
    As the logging area moved they just took'em down and re- erected them.
    would do about 5 rebuilds before they made a new one .

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    When we returned late Fri, 3/4 of the thatch was up.



    We had decided to use the 'Bi Jack' as opposed to the 'Ya Fat' type of the thatch. While I think the latter looks better, it's twice the price and doesn't last as long.


    Doing the ridge


    Here there will be a mezzanine floor incorporating a small living area and bedroom. From upstairs there will be a view over the mountains, a skilion roof will also be added.


    This pic shows the two poles that act as bracing, as well as supporting the roof. This allowed us to remove one of the columns creating a more open living area (if you look closely you can see a bamboo support, this will be removed). These pieces were quite tricky, as they combine difficult joints between two fixed points.


    Inserting bolts.


    This is the view looking out on the front yard. The bamboo support on the left will be removed, there will be a kitchen with a long bench at the front. As the trees shade the afternoon sun, we shouldn't need to add anything to protect the bamboo, so the area will remain open.



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    The scaffolding came down a few days ago, besides a few pieces of bracing, the frame and main roof are now done.

    This is the view as you enter the property



    And from a different angle


    Inside the house




    Looking through from the back, the workers are in the mezzanine area.




    Same view from further out, there will be a skilion roof in the front.



    From a distance




    We are now doing the floor upstairs using split bamboo. It's pretty slow going as neither the split planks or poles they sit on are level, so everything has to be packed up. We are fixing with small bamboo dowels, not nails. Once the floor is finished it will be polished. Any feedback is welcome.


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    Looks superb.

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    true, certainly looks good

    you had better get it finished before the wind blows

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog
    Looks superb.
    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy
    true, certainly looks good
    I'm impressed, keep the pictures coming!

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    Fascinating thread..the roof looks great and I can't wait to see how the flooring turns out. One question, do you think you will have a mosquito problem with those roof vents?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy View Post
    true, certainly looks good

    you had better get it finished before the wind blows
    It does look a bit like it's ready to take off, but I think with a little bit more work it'll be fine.

    Keeping the roof open will allow wind wind to escape. Bamboo has great tensile strength, so it should be able to withstand strong winds.




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    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy View Post
    true, certainly looks good

    you had better get it finished before the wind blows
    It does look a bit like it's ready to take off, but I think with a little bit more work it'll be fine.

    Keeping the roof open will allow wind wind to escape. Bamboo has great tensile strength, so it should be able to withstand strong winds.




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    Quote Originally Posted by shunpike View Post
    Fascinating thread..the roof looks great and I can't wait to see how the flooring turns out. One question, do you think you will have a mosquito problem with those roof vents?
    The floor will be OK, but not as good as a proper wooden one. Bamboo flooring is popular, but it's expenive and uses nasty glues.

    Mosquitos are a problem for all houses, it's just a matter of how you deal with them. Trying to keep them out altogether is difficult, I prefer to use fans and maybe the odd mozzie coil, as well as sleeping under a net.







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    Quote Originally Posted by Smithson
    Mosquitos are a problem for all houses, it's just a matter of how you deal with them. Trying to keep them out altogether is difficult, I prefer to use fans and maybe the odd mozzie coil, as well as sleeping under a net
    Yep, nothing much you can do about mozzies unless you want to keep your house closed up and all the doors and windows screened

    sleeping under a net is a much more relaxing way of avoiding being attacked

    evenings, maybe use a deterrent like nasty Neet

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    We've just come back from the build, it's pretty much done, however I had problems with my camera, so there's only a couple of pics.

    The mezzanine floor is completed, there's a half decent view, but most importantly the breeze blows through nicely. While it's very hot this time of year, once the rains start things cool down and night time temps are pleasant.

    The pic below shows the posts for the skillion roof.




    These are the rafters. They are only 30 - 40mm in diameter. Rather than go to the trouble of borax preservation, we have heat treated them over a fire. This traditional form of preservation is not as effective as borax, but the bamboo is so cheap that we thought we'd give it a try. I expect it will last as long as the thatch and we will replace them together.

    Done properly heat/smoke treatment hardens the bamboo making it difficult for bugs to attack, it also leaves a layer of creosote on the exterior, giving further protection.

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    Looks great, love how green you went on this project.. I hope it will inspire others to follow in your footsteps.. I will be doing something similar next year, hopefully

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