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    Quote Originally Posted by Thai Dhupp View Post
    English construction company? English site manager? ... don't tell me you are paying English prices too!?

    What are you actually building, if I may ask?

    (and don't say 'a house')
    I originally got 6 companies to quote on my design, 4 of which were solely Thai owned & operated. The company I selected was admittedly on the high end of the quotes but I liked the "prospective customer experience" in what I suppose was the tendering process. I saw a lot of their work & being able to converse freely in English is a huge benefit. Its not much higher than the solely Thai quotes so i'm happy with the agreed price. I'm a complete construction cretin so I wanted to be nursed through the build which is exactly what I'm getting so far.
    Its a two & a half rai plot & we're building a bungalow with landscaping front & rear. I'm planning on getting old & infirm there so lots of flat areas & low, wide steps if needed

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    This is a really great account and story! I have spent the last few days reading through and learning a lot from your project as so many others have already said. I was wondering if you made any changes to the original contract that you posted at the start as I am now planning my own build in Thailand, looking to begin in the new year as now at least there is a) the building permit and b) a (very steep!) freshly built road up to the land.. so pretty much (sic) ready to go!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by knowsitlike View Post
    This is a really great account and story! I have spent the last few days reading through and learning a lot from your project as so many others have already said. I was wondering if you made any changes to the original contract that you posted at the start as I am now planning my own build in Thailand, looking to begin in the new year as now at least there is a) the building permit and b) a (very steep!) freshly built road up to the land.. so pretty much (sic) ready to go!!
    hi Knowsitlike and welcome. I see you have just joined up, and here on this great forum is the place to get all the advice and support you wlll ever need!!

    With regards to the original contract, no.. clauses remain as they were at the start. I forgot to include one for the termite control but my builder did it anyway, at no charge as we had spoken about it at one of the meetings pre-contract.

    There have been a few items not in the contract that we have done - the duct bank under zone 2, the external window detailing (i have not yet posted those pictures), and additions to the budget for, say the wall and floor tiling, where we changed out minds nearer the time. There has not been too much of that though.

    We wanted to retain control of the kitchens and bathrooms - others might want all that written in to the contract - but by keeping it separate, we keep 100% control of what goes in. No compromises. We might still have k.pot build part of the kitchen, not decided yet. What we did put in was the labour part in the contract- whatever we buy he fits, if required. We will definitely use that clause for the sanitary ware, definitely not for the AC, and maybe for the kitchen!!

    Keep your options open

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nigglyb View Post
    I originally got 6 companies to quote on my design, 4 of which were solely Thai owned & operated. The company I selected was admittedly on the high end of the quotes but I liked the "prospective customer experience" in what I suppose was the tendering process. I saw a lot of their work & being able to converse freely in English is a huge benefit. Its not much higher than the solely Thai quotes so i'm happy with the agreed price. I'm a complete construction cretin so I wanted to be nursed through the build which is exactly what I'm getting so far.
    Its a two & a half rai plot & we're building a bungalow with landscaping front & rear. I'm planning on getting old & infirm there so lots of flat areas & low, wide steps if needed
    very nice!

    With 2.5 Rai, never mind the 'wide steps' for getting old- you better budget for a ride-on mower too.

    I have future-proofed TD Towers with space for a lift unit if i ever need it!

    lol way i feel at work just now, i think i might give K.Pot the instruction to go- ahead!!!

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    TD, evening as i assume it is out there. Sorry to be a pedant but isn't it PJ Towers?

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    Cheers Thai Dhupp, and thanks for posting that contract certainly a good starting point even if it blinds the local construction firms into a daze at least you feel you have all the points down you want to make before the going gets fun.

    The duct bank you refer to was that the under foundation piping for cable runs across the footprint you laid early in the build? not sure I remembered that right.

    I appreciated your thoughts about rain water harvesting as this is something I want to do from the beginning, my land is far from a reliable official source and at the top of a hill. There is an option to dig a well further down and pump up but with a flat roof area and usual rainfall it looks feasible to do it from collecting, I heard in the same neighborhood that someone else already did this to good effect but it does take a huge tank setup, probably around 20k liters to make sure you have enough for a dry month even in a smaller house. I am ok to have a decent treatment plant post the storage of needed as this is more about supply than cost but will keep you posted on my learnings there.

    Have a good weekend, tell you what using this site with a mobile ain’t half a mither hey

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    Quote Originally Posted by knowsitlike View Post
    I appreciated your thoughts about rain water harvesting as this is something I want to do from the beginning,
    Knows, whilst you're waiting for TD and assuming you have read lots on here before you'll know options also exist for a pond, land size dependant, but if your plot is big its a possibility and its sounds like you won't want to but a well is a goer - dug at the end of the dry season local rates (40-70K maybe) vary and the ROI is loooooong but in the end its about stability of supply and you can use it for your house of course.

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    Hello NamPik, thanks for the suggestion and I was thinking about doing a couple of small holding ponds/dams in a gully that runs down the plot- more to see if it works at all to collect runoff through the year but I am not so hopeful on that. As mentioned and from talking to others in the area they have to deepwell (100-150m) quite far down the hill to make it work and so ideally I would avoid that if the rain collection is viable. Might end up doing all of the above! even collecting off the road (private) for planting etc as major issue there is water, the usual supply is from a small waterfall but so many people are tapping that it is starting to run dry and is a source of problems in that community..

    Anyhow back to TD’s thread, would be good to see the roof guttering and how he might later build in a water collection storage as my calculations are it needs a big volume.

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    Knows, just a word on water storage before we move on, mozzies, you need to account for them in whatever storage or you'll end in a nightmare. Open Storage ponds the solution is fish + a food source. Over and out.

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    So...what's all this then...?


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    Stair rail infills?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NamPikToot View Post
    TD, evening as i assume it is out there. Sorry to be a pedant but isn't it PJ Towers?
    In her mind maybe, but the reality is somewhat different.

    She owns the land.....

    The house is mine, and I got a lease on the land

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    Quote Originally Posted by NamPikToot View Post
    Stair rail infills?
    Good guess, but ...no

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    [QUOTE=knowsitlike;3839991]The duct bank you refer to was that the under foundation piping for cable runs across the footprint you laid early in the build? not sure I remembered that right.

    Yes... just some access arrangements from front to back to avoid digging it all up in the future

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    Sorry a joke, the give away is the angle, they part of the balcony areas?

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    Quote Originally Posted by knowsitlike View Post

    I appreciated your thoughts about rain water harvesting as this is something I want to do from the beginning.... y
    Ok...i went over it earlier in the thread and I am going to do it but not as part of this build. the guttering was not part of the contract as I want a specialist in for it.

    Basically, water harvesting is... making use of all water that enters your plot.

    You can use waste water from say, showers and washing machines for watering the garden, even flushing toilets, as long as it is thoroughly filtered

    you can use rail water for all of the above, plus drinking (through the correct filters), inputting the washing machine, even input to the shower or bath.

    If you design the pipework to cater for the future (I did) you can add any or all of this at a later date.

    You need a harvesting method, say a gutter system, a storage capacity to suit your needs (tankage) a pump system to circulate the collected water and input it back to your domestic use.

    if you want toilet flushing, shower use and drinking water, you can't have a single tank if you are using both sink waste water and rain harvesting.

    If you decide to use the sink / shower / washing machine water solely for irrigation (good idea with all those phosphates) life is easier. The rainwater supply can achieve as much of the other options as you want, depending on supply volume of course.

    Just my ramblings, not cast on tablets of stone...

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    Quote Originally Posted by NamPikToot View Post
    Sorry a joke, the give away is the angle, they part of the balcony areas?
    No..its a fair guess as we WILL be doing that and the pieces look 'similar'

    Not part of the balcony area either, but nearer to their fixing place!

    There are 10 of them...
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    Right, Red wine time

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    ...there are 10 of them.....

    and there are 10 windows.










    yes... Lanna style window detailing.








    The idea came from window research... the ones we found were very ornate, with the detailing running up over and around the shuttering.

    Then we found this simpler one:




    So my version is a 'tip of the hat to tradition' without going too OTT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NamPikToot View Post
    Right, Red wine time
    Wish I could.. I'm at work!!!

    Feel free to drop a bottle off!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thai Dhupp View Post
    Wish I could.. I'm at work!!!

    Feel free to drop a bottle off!!
    Feel for you, sorry shouldn't have mentioned it. It is an early start for me but i've been up since 5am so it feels later than it is and with the spectacle of Dill fending piss taking posts with photoshopped japes when the Mancs get royally turned over starting in 38 minutes it feels like a good time for a glug.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NamPikToot View Post
    Feel for you, sorry shouldn't have mentioned it. It is an early start for me but i've been up since 5am so it feels later than it is and with the spectacle of Dill fending piss taking posts with photoshopped japes when the Mancs get royally turned over starting in 38 minutes it feels like a good time for a glug.
    this might be the day of the start of the United 'revival' after their warm up performance at Newcastle.

    Got a strong team of players just not playing well together but its only a matter of time til something happens..

    ... and I include the removal of the 'special one' with a shepherds crook as one of those options!

    He's probably one of the few managers who knows the opposition players better than his own... anyway.. let see what happens

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    Ceiling insulation

    The plan was for double insulation to prevent any heat in the roof void from making its way into the home.

    K.Pot is therefore laying the ceiling insulation to compliment the roof insulation he already placed.











    Elven safet......oh...never mind!


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    TD, on a brighter note your gaff is really starting to take shape, the bit towards the end where the detail is added like now really brings the canvas to life.

    Any ideas on the garden?.

    My place will be firmly focussed on the outdoors and have been steadily planting trees for over 8 years now as they take so long to establish, had quite a few failures but perseverance is paying off. Also got the Mrs Dad to plant some so they'll be a reminder when the old chap has moved on. In fact, the very first thing he planted, a coconut has this year fruited for the first time which is great and makes her smile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NamPikToot View Post
    TD, on a brighter note your gaff is really starting to take shape, the bit towards the end where the detail is added like now really brings the canvas to life.

    Any ideas on the garden?.

    My place will be firmly focused on the outdoors and have been steadily planting trees for over 8 years now as they take so long to establish, had quite a few failures but perseverance is paying off. Also got the Mrs Dad to plant some so they'll be a reminder when the old chap has moved on. In fact, the very first thing he planted, a coconut has this year fruited for the first time which is great and makes her smile.
    NPT...I would like to re-create that jungle-style garden same as round the Jim Thomson house in BKK.

    Practically speaking though - we need some open space probably with a bit of lawn.

    A few flowering plants, and of course the obligatory fruit trees.

    Personally i want to plant anything / everything that discourages mosquitoes! not sure if lavender does well in LoS....

    I'm more the hardscaping guy - fire pit, pool waterfall, various 'features' i can include in my photography, koi pond, ideally with bridge, etc etc.

    I want an easy maintenance garden so raised beds i think (oooh me poor ol' back) so mainly shrubs and food plants for her. She actually likes gardening so my involvement may well be limited to cutting grass, sitting on deckchair giving direction, or making sure the pool temp is uniform, from the comfort of my pool-temp-checking-vehicle.. (OK.. Lilo).

    TBH i did not give a whole lotta thought to this so suggestions for consideration are more than welcome.

    I would like to create a little Britain garden within the garden if possible, to remind me on home now and again. rose trees, bench, wisteria, raspberries, etc, you know what i mean and i bet all of that is impossible with the climate!!

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