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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
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    Why not? It's not really a surprise after you paid 10,000 under the table to the OBT to "fast track" your blue book. Of course , it will all be above board and the OBT's intervention will have nothing to do with the increased price and she won't be getting a cut at all.

    Yeah Nev but there is a small difference tween 10k to ease something through, which can come out of money brought, and 228K (the actual cost) which is the quoted cost of supply and fit the system for 30/100 which seems to be what we need, with both zone 3 and the pool still to build.

    We all know where those 'easements' end up and I can live with it, was half expecting it, OBT confirmed it and indeed it came to pass.

    In a different ball-park is 200k+ this is not tea money, and i am certainly not swanning around with this sort of cash in the wallet - its the cost of something when the choice is 1. PEA, or 2. err... well no one else. I say i was not expecting it because the 'tariff board' in the PEA office implied a lot less. but that board was only for the meter - nothing else! so maybe I am just a dumb-ass and should have realised that the work should be costed properly, etc. my mistake but again... ignorance on my part made me 'jump' a bit when the figure was given.

    its Ok... i calmed down now!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thai Dhupp View Post
    228K (the actual cost) which is the quoted cost of supply and fit the system for 30/100 which seems to be what we need, with both zone 3 and the pool still to build
    May well be. Unfortunately you must not be in an area with multiple dwellings running off one or more transformers installed at no cost to individual home owners. Looks you will have to bite the bullet and pony up the cash.

    Chances are slim but perhaps you can recoup some if a new build nearby uses your power.

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    Again... thanks for all the input, advice and comment of 'supply'

    so today, we met with Mr. PEA, and the bottom line is 228,000 THB

    I am calmer now and when he explained why it was this much and

    what they were doing for the money, it made some sort of sense.

    * There is NO OTHER TRANSFORMER within 1Km of TD Towers (we drove round everywhere to check. There were 2 within 1km but they were factory / commercial and dedicated - no sharing).

    * The transformer I am getting is new, and it is exclusive. mine., again... no sharing

    * This transformer will be WITHIN my boundary

    * The supply I am getting is 30A (i think - lol will just double-check)

    * The meter is 30/100

    * All the cabling within TD Towers will be underground - buried, armored cable with proper tiles and tape

    I think this is all OK. 7 AC units in zone 1 and 2, with 4 more to come in zone 3, swimming pool pumps still to come. oven, microwave, kettle, big fridge freezer, washer-dryer, fans, etc etc+entertainment, PCs, etc.

    He has discounted it by 60k

    of course, all these quoted figures are beyond checking. they are what they say they are and thats it. I know though that K.Pot paid 400K to get a similar supply to his house withis also 'non-estate'

    Maybe this is one downside to living in the rural idyll...

    I have agreed it now so not going back unless there is a really REALLY compelling reason!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    May well be. Unfortunately you must not be in an area with multiple dwellings running of one or more transformers installed at no cost to individual home owners. Looks you will have to bite the bullet and pony up the cash.

    Chances are slim but perhaps you can recoup some if a new build nearby uses your power.

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    See my last post, Norton. You nailed it exactly!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thai Dhupp View Post
    See my last post, Norton. You nailed it exactly!!!
    Looks like we were posting at same time. Had I seen yours wouldn't have bothered posting my 2 cents. Would have only said. "Yup".

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    Power supply update

    I did check with PJ what was discussed in 'local language' while I was inside the house.

    Apparently, no! it was not' help us to fcuk the farang over for Thailand!''

    instead, PJ, bless her was getting the low-down on long term costs of going with this supply proposal,

    so currently the 15/45 supply is at approx 8 THB / unit (does that sound about right?)

    With this new dedicated set up, the unit cost will fall to 3.8 THB.

    So around a 50% saving per unit.

    *quickly does calculation in head* 228,000 / APPROX 4 THB saving per unit = 57k units.... and I break even on the cost of installation!

    What do we think the monthly consumption will be in a larger, but very energy efficient house?

    Oh - today I was testing all the electrics in each room. Bedroom 1 AC had it comfortable in minutes, the main living room has 2 smaller units, got the room to a very cool temp in about 10 minutes then turned off one unit and maintained the temp until I left the room.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thai Dhupp View Post
    (does that sound about right?)
    Yes..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thai Dhupp View Post

    * The transformer I am getting is new, and it is exclusive. mine., again... no sharing

    * This transformer will be WITHIN my boundary
    So, you will be responsible for the maintenance of it?

    If so, I'd be putting one of these around the pole to stop the cute animals running up it and becoming an instant BBQ.



    If you want something cheaper, just fashion a cone of metal ... does the same for less.

    And you might want to consider some on the 'in/on-line' protectors which stop the furry critters running up the line as opposed to scampering up the pole.

    I've lost count of the number of possums I had to clean off the transformers at the work-shop that fried themselves.

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    ^It's the scaly critters too, that can pose a problem, so the barrier needs to hug the pole fairly tightly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David48atTD View Post
    So, you will be responsible for the maintenance of it?
    There is practically no maintenance on the transformer over years. And the installation will be a bit more sophisticated and lasting unlike the picture shown... (no creatures climbing up, beside the birds sitting comfortably)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    There is practically no maintenance on the transformer over years
    True however they tend to go boom when lighting strikes them. We lose 3 or 4 a year in the moobaan.

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    No lightning conductors? On the pole.
    The apartment building built beside our house has a lightning conductor on the pole where the transformer is. Seems to work as it has been hit at least once, with a terrific boom and flash, but the transformer was OK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thai Dhupp View Post
    so currently the 15/45 supply is at approx 8 THB / unit (does that sound about right?)
    No, ~ double normal rate, maybe they have a higher charge for temp connection?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Airportwo View Post
    No, ~ double normal rate, maybe they have a higher charge for temp connection?
    ahhhh...OK.. anyway.. it is a 'bit' cheaper that the standard tariff. maybe the tariffs are different in different parts of the country?

    the transformer has been ordered now. we will be requesting that lightening conductor - seems like a sensible idea.

    The transformer we are getting comes with a 3- year all inclusive maintenance program included in the price

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    Again, thanks all for the contribution and suggestions - as I think most of you know - i am not strong on electrics - i am learning as we go, from peeps who know a lot more than me!

    cheers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thai Dhupp View Post
    ahhhh...OK.. anyway.. it is a 'bit' cheaper that the standard tariff. maybe the tariffs are different in different parts of the country?
    If you ever work out the tariffs let me know, they change with consumption also:-
    1.1.1 Consume up to 150 kWh. per Month 8.19
    First 15 kWh. ( 0 – 15 th) 2.3488
    Next 10 kWh. ( 16 th – 25 th) 2.9882
    Next 10 kWh. ( 26 th – 35 th) 3.2405
    Next 65 kWh. ( 36 th – 100 th) 3.6237
    Next 50 kWh. ( 101 st – 150 th) 3.7171
    Next 250 kWh. ( 151 st – 400 th) 4.2218
    Over 400 kWh. ( 401 st and over)

    Easy to understand for the layman

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    PEA tariffs can be found here (tariffs page): https://www.pea.co.th/en/electricity-tariffs

    PEA latest tariffs PDF download link (in English): https://www.pea.co.th/Portals/1/dema...-21-145427-433

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thai Dhupp View Post
    so currently the 15/45 supply is at approx 8 THB / unit (does that sound about right?)
    The "temporary service" rate perhaps - although that seems to be 6.8 baht. See schedule 8 of the tariffs PDF file above.

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    Thanks all for the tariff info - must say I am not a lot wiser but ... whatever it will be it will be.

    We are getting hooked up with our own transformer, and yes...they fit lightening protection as standard here.

    Onward, onward!

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    Bathroom Update

    Ok its all but finished now...just needs the towels and accessories. We have checked all the facilities and everything is working




    Shower cubicle with shower seat


    Her's and ..her's also, basins...


    Shelves behind the bath


    it's big enough for 2...'apparently'


    Basin / tap detail


    There is a glass cubicle around that shower, not so visible in this picture




    This bath is big enough for a full-sized me.


    General layout.

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    Boundary doors

    Yes.. fitted and not working...just need err... paint




    workmanship is a bit 'rustic'


    PJ and daughter no.2 go to check the back gate...


    is, of course, a temporary arrangement until the main gate man can fabricate the pedestrian doors too

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    Dining room lighting

    Not going around room by room to look at the lighting, but the dining room set has turned out better than I hoped.











    There are now 3 different light sources in the dining room now - the table crystal globes, the ceiling lighting and the strip lighting in the recess.

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    Bathroom visitor


    Did you see it yet?



    He appeared at the same time we had a 'hiccup' with the ceiling boiler


    OK.. He's not staying!

    The boiler started cascading water through the ceiling- lucky i went in to check something else.

    K.Pot will fix the room, I fixed the man who did not connect the boiler correctly.

    We previously had an issue with 'flow' i.e. there wsn't any.

    Now....Gallons coming though, and all hot.

    We paid the guy locally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thai Dhupp View Post
    look at the lighting,







    Oh, what fun could be had ...



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    Quote Originally Posted by David48atTD View Post
    Oh, what fun could be had ...
    The fun will be cleaning the dust off all the wee bits on the light.

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