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    Thumbs down Sometimes, IMHO, Art is shit

    The 2022 Archibald Prize Winner ...

    Sometimes, IMHO, Art is shit-c92621c675c6e64adcee448b2b495e20722e026f-jpg

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    ^ Archibald Prize 2022: Portrait of artist Karla Dickens by Indigenous painter Blak Douglas wins coveted prize

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    And then there is the Packing Room (the people who unpack and hang the images) Archibald Prize Winner ...

    Sometimes, IMHO, Art is shit-1651650259-sid84785-m-jpg

    A portrait of film maker Taika Waititi by Claus Stangl has won the Archibald Packing Room Prize. Credit: AAP

    ...sigh
    Someone is sitting in the shade today because someone planted a tree a long time ago ...


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    I agree but the problem with judging art is it's subjective.

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    ^ in your opinion.

    ^^ that looks like its a 3D picture

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    He's indigenous, so obviously his art has more value, to some. Blak is not his given name, it just helps make him more edgy. I wouldn't want it on my wall but it has provoked a response which is already a success.
    This is the story of the picture:

    Title:Moby Dickens
    Size:3m x 2m
    Medium:Synthetic polymer on linen
    Edition:1
    Year:2022
    Provenance:Archibald Prize 2022
    Price:Sold

    Influenced by one of my favourite Spiritually we all know that the ‘Mother’ (Earth) is angry at us. Renaissance painters ‘Masaccio’, I sought to find a biblical metaphor representative of the Lismore flooding disaster. I needed look no further than the quintessentially disgruntled resident artist - Karla Dickens. My renowned ‘flat bottomed clouds’ number 14 here, indicative of the number of days & nights the deluge lasted first time round. That’s DOUBLE what Noah encountered. The leakingbuckets here serve as a cryptic acknowledgement of the generic 50% takings of commercial galleries. We as artists slave on our product only to have the wealthy ‘slave master’ tax half of our earnings at end of the work day. The rising muddied waters also a symbol of the the artists position within the ‘art world’… trepidatious, unchartered and ominous. One would thus think that a devoutly religious Prime Minister might significantly take note of the communities desperate call for assistance.

    Winner: The Archibald Prize 2022 - Blak Douglas

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shutree View Post
    14 here, indicative of the number of days & nights the deluge lasted first time round. That’s DOUBLE what Noah encountered.
    I erred. It rained on Noah for only 7 days, then the flood lasted for forty. Is that right? Or did it rain for forty?

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    Quote Originally Posted by malmomike77 View Post
    ^ in your opinion.
    Exactly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shutree View Post
    Is that right? Or did it rain for forty?
    It rained for 40 days and 40 nights...Genesis 7:12

    He was given 7 days notice...Genesis 7:4

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    Is that top pic Mendip emptying his pond after a skin full of Lao moonshine?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    I agree but the problem with judging art is it's subjective.
    Modern art is fucking garbage.

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    That Archibald prize winner is just awful.

    Methinks a bit of reverse racism at play.

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    I guess I should get the Andy Warhol Prize for this-


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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceman123 View Post
    That Archibald prize winner is just awful.

    Methinks a bit of reverse racism at play.
    I think the picture is shyte. But there is no such thing as reverse racism.

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    The art doesn't matter, its what some gulible idiot will buy it for. Hurst and Emen, their "works" are worth multiple times their sale price. So if you have money, taste and quality has fook all to do with it and the shit that gets peddled to "money with no clue" gets easier as the years go by. But they are orange, tasteless, cashed up and happy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    It rained for 40 days and 40 nights...Genesis 7:12

    He was given 7 days notice...Genesis 7:4
    Don't Lose My Number - Phil Collins from Genesis 1985

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    Art is now a glorified bitcoin investment. Art is and always will be subjective. This allows many works of absolute shite to be classified as art and purchased by people with more of an eye to investing, rather than what can be actually considered art by a majority of the population.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    It rained for 40 days and 40 nights...Genesis 7:12

    He was given 7 days notice...Genesis 7:4
    Thanks. That is how I remembered it from my schooldays. I really should read the book.

    Anyway, when Mr. Douglas wrote that the rain of 14 days in Australia was "DOUBLE what Noah encountered" he was writing complete tosh. I guess he skipped Bible class or maths, or both.

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    there is real art and there is garbage. what the garbage is for:
    rich person orders "artist" to make art for 25000usd. after the creation, the rich person let's the art being valued by an "art-specialist", often a person out of his own circle. The piece of art is being revalued at, say, 40million usd. rich persons donates 40million piece of art to art galary and subtract this 40 million on his tax form.... That creates this sh[t.

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    Jackson Pollock's style was abstract expressionism . His paintings sell for between $20million to $50million personally I find it difficult/impossible to justify the value.

    Here are a couple of things said about him:

    "Pollock dripped paint onto canvas to convey the emotion of movement. He explored themes including surrealist navigation of the unconscious and Jungian symbolism"

    "Jackson Pollock's greatness lies in developing one of the most radical abstract styles in the history of modern art, detaching line from color, redefining the categories of drawing and painting, and finding new means to describe pictorial space"


    All that aside I needed a large painting for a fairly expensive house I am building. (for myself) The tiles in the house will be light grey and I wanted something to tie in that was abstract, original and worth the coin.

    I acquired this painting, I won't give the name of the artist at this stage as you may Google and value. Only clue - Artist is multi-millionaire not some tosser from ebay.

    The question I have to ask is whether it was worth the $17,500. I know that all art is subjective but I am interested in opinions.

    Sometimes, IMHO, Art is shit-10-jpg

    This is not the painting in situ but a crappy pic taken by me to allow you to see. Wall in background is cream will be off white in it's new home.

    The painting is signed in Reverso and has a certificate of authenticity Dimensions are 130cm x 130cm

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    I think I can do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceman123 View Post
    The question I have to ask is whether it was worth the $17,500. I know that all art is subjective but I am interested in opinions.
    I have no idea as to its value, FWIW I quite like it.

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    You probably could have flown to Bali and commissioned an artist to paint that for cheaper.

    But I like it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    I think I can do that.
    Crass bragging, thinly disguised as a request for input?

    Not really your style, Miss K.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    Crass bragging, thinly disguised as a request for input?

    Not really your style, Miss K.
    When is your colonoscopy due Cyrille?
    It will be the only day that you are not full of shit
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    Just a joke. I don’t think much of the piece.

    I have a friend who does this kind of art for fun. Looks about the same.

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    I have a friend of many years that works in this medium. If you stop and look at the piece and analyze it intelligently, you can see something in the art form.

    This is a piece my friend did...

    Sometimes, IMHO, Art is shit-img-2066-jpg

    An explanation that is not my words, so a quotation box...

    (artists name) complex compositions combine intense color and organic subjects inspired by nature, executed with a sculptural sensibility. Each painting is a coherent ecosystem where color, movement, mass, transparency and opacity work in concert or in tension.

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