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    Iraq kicks US troops out of the country


    President Obama announced this afternoon that US troops will finally be out of Iraq by the year’s end.

    Though this had been the president’s plan since he first campaigned for office, until the very last moment US diplomats and leading military officials tried to ink a secret plan that would allow Americans to stay in Iraq for years to come.

    "After nearly nine years, America's war in Iraq will be over,"
    President Obama announced this afternoon from the White House in Washington DC.

    To many, the move comes too little, too late — with 4,400 Americans killed in Iraq since the war began under President George W Bush; some top-brass at the Pentagon have insisted only months earlier, however, that a withdrawal in 2011 might not be wise.

    Commenting on the planned withdrawal earlier this year, US Defense Secretary Robert Gates said he own message to troops in Iraq was that Americans “just be present in some areas where they still need help.”

    Meanwhile, America tried inking a deal with Iraq that would grant US troops immunity for war crimes overseas that would lend to ongoing military presence into 2012, despite the president’s initial campaign promise to withdraw troops as soon as possible.

    Obama today says that the move to withdraw is with “full agreement about how to move forward” from both countries, but also comes after Iraq was unwilling to extend powers to the American military that would put them above the law.

    Bottom line: Iraq told Obama to get out.

    The US and Iraq had debated keeping residual forces overseas long after the proposed withdrawal would take place, but with no guarantee over the legal loopholes US servicemen would be granted, a full removal of troops will occur by January 1, 2012, says Obama today.

    As recently as April of this year, Secretary Gates told reporters, "I think there is interest in having a continuing presence,” but noted that it would come to whether or not Iraq would want American military men to stay. It shouldn’t be that much of a surprise then that, following a video conference with Iraq prime minister Nouri al-Maliki this morning, Obama announced his plans to end the operation.

    According to Iraq Body Count, 100,000 civilians have been killed in the eight-plus years of the war. Fiscally, it costs America over $800 billion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neo
    Iraq kicks US troops out of the country
    really ?


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    a full removal of troops will occur by January 1, 2012
    A total meltdown of authority and increased civil conflict will occur from January 2nd, on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mid View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Neo
    Iraq kicks US troops out of the country
    really ?

    Depends how you look at it I suppose..

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    Nothing to do with his campaign before presidency. This is about looking to boost his votes as the majority of US citizens have been fooled. No doubt this deed will fool them yet again!

    And what for the private organizations?

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    well for mine the yanks would be outa there in a heartbeat given half a chance , well before Iraq could get itself organised to kick them out ..................

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    The local tribal leaders will go back to what they are best at without the Americans bothering them with human rights and other western imported wisdom.

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    If it is so than good but I still am doubting it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesus Jones
    No doubt this deed will fool them yet again!
    Fooled into what? He did not start this war. What could be worse than if he lost the upcoming election and one of your kock brothers robots got elected in his place?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neo View Post
    a full removal of troops will occur by January 1, 2012
    A total meltdown of authority and increased civil conflict will occur from January 2nd, on.
    Yep..

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    The US armed forces are expected to leave. The US State Department Private Army, "led" by Hillary, will remain and increase in size with the addition of mercenaries trained and recruited from Qatar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lostandfound View Post
    The local tribal leaders will go back to what they are best at without the Americans bothering them with human rights and other western imported wisdom.
    In a round-about way, Iraq was much more stable during the Saddam years.

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    There's no roundabout about it, the whole region was more stable under Saddam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neo View Post
    There's no roundabout about it, the whole region was more stable under Saddam.
    Wasn't the aim to destabilize Iraq as it is now with Libya and others that are on the cards? Create a crisis and appear to offer the solution while robbing the countries of their resources!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesus Jones View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Neo View Post
    There's no roundabout about it, the whole region was more stable under Saddam.
    Wasn't the aim to destabilize Iraq as it is now with Libya and others that are on the cards? Create a crisis and appear to offer the solution while robbing the countries of their resources!
    It's been the age-old stategy of minipulation for some time now.
    Invent a boogieman. Repeat it often. Justify.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lostandfound View Post
    The local tribal leaders will go back to what they are best at without the Americans bothering them with human rights and other western imported wisdom.
    Plus the Sunni will massacre the Shia and vice versa. Iran's influence will grow as Turkey's wanes. And let's not even get started on the Kurds.

    This was a fuck up from the minute that c**t George Bush and his dad and mates saw an opportunity to line their pockets, paid for with US tax dollars and soldiers' lives.

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    While in the Good old Western World, we kill each other and elect millionaires who protect billionaires so that the rest of us can support the whole corrupt bollocks of a world.

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    apparently the Iraq government had a fallout with the Obama administration and told them to fuck off,

    something about extending an agreement on immunity,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neo
    Iraq was unwilling to extend powers to the American military that would put them above the law.
    And rightly so. A country that is garrisoned by foreign troops that are not answerable to the laws of that nation is a country under foreign military occupation, it is as simple as that.

    The UN and Amenawackjob wish to thank you, for making them look good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang
    a country under foreign military occupation, it is as simple as that.
    I think that was a given, now the real question is will the US leave ?

    I suspect they will find an excuse to stay,

    like a sudden Taliban uprising who found recently a conveniently located weapon cache

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    This is not news. Dubya made a speech back when he was in office that troops would be out that date.

    It's time anyhow...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee
    Dubya made a speech back when he was in office that troops would be out that date.
    indeed, seems like Obama didn't touch a thing to Bush plan, actually looks like he was trying to extend it, the little treacherous bastard

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    ^
    That he is and wants to take credit for this 'new revelation' or some such shit.

    BTW, did y'all know that Obama’s Failed Stimulus Cost More than 9 Year Iraq War?



    As President Obama prepares to tie a bow on U.S. combat operations in Iraq, Congressional Budget Office numbers show that the total cost of the eight-year war was less than the stimulus bill passed by the Democratic-led Congress in 2009.


    According to CBO numbers in its Budget and Economic Outlook published this month, the cost of Operation Iraqi Freedom was $709 billion for military and related activities, including training of Iraqi forces and diplomatic operations.
    The projected cost of the stimulus, which passed in February 2009, and is expected to have a shelf life of two years, was $862 billion.
    The U.S. deficit for fiscal year 2010 is expected to be $1.3 trillion, according to CBO. That compares to a 2007 deficit of $160.7 billion and a 2008 deficit of $458.6 billion, according to data provided by the U.S. Office of Management and Budget

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    ^ the bailout was a necessity, not the Iraq war

    two were very expensive projects and it's hard to know exactly how much they have cost,

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    And the effect on the economy if Iraq's oil production goes to shit and oil prices go through the roof again?.....

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