Thread: U.K. Support for Scottish Independence Is Increasing, Poll Says

I can't see those drunk sweaties lying in a pool of piss begging at Victoria station making the same coin if they had to do it in Glasgow.

Those cliches will be your problem after 2016

Scottish Independence: Salmond hails Scots prospects ahead of White Paper

Alex Salmond in front of a Saltire flag
Mr Salmond said the paper will show that Scotland's public finances are healthier than the UK's

First Minister Alex Salmond has said that no country has ever been better equipped than Scotland to become independent.

Mr Salmond was speaking ahead of Tuesday's launch of the White Paper which will set out detailed plans for independence.

He said the document would put beyond dispute Scotland's capacity to be a successful, independent country.

However, opponents said the report had to be frank about the challenges ahead.

A formal meeting of the Scottish cabinet will take place at Glasgow's Science Centre on Tuesday, before the White Paper's launch, before politicians return to Edinburgh for a statement in Parliament.

Speaking ahead of the launch Mr Salmond said: "The Scottish Government is setting out plans for the future, and from Tuesday we will seek to engage the whole Scottish population in a debate about how to build a better Scotland.

"We will set out a series of reasonable proposals and ask people to judge for themselves this common-sense approach.

"The white paper will detail how Scotland's public finances are healthier than the UK's and will show that we have raised more in tax per head than the UK as a whole for every one of the last 30 years.

"As well as demonstrating these firm foundations, the white paper will put the focus of the referendum campaign firmly on Scotland's future and the issues that matters most to people - jobs, economic growth and security."

'Plan B'
But his critics say the White Paper will be judged on whether it tackles concerns over issues like the currency and longer term financial challenges.

Scottish Secretary Alistair Carmichael said: "In 48 hours there will be no way for Alex Salmond to escape the difficult questions," while Alistair Darling, the leader of the Better Together campaign, also said a currency union was looking like a "non-starter" and called on the SNP to explain their "Plan B".

More than 200 members of the media - from across the UK, the US, Europe, China, the Middle East, Japan, Australia and Russia - have so far registered to attend the White Paper launch event, which will also be streamed online.

The guide to independence will be available online at scotreferendum.com

Don't forget to take your share of this:

UK National Debt Clock - No-nonsense Guide to Britain's Debt Crisis

Yes, we will take out 8.4% share.

Every Billion counts.

At around £20k per head we can manage that.

Here is the White Paper. I shall be reading this tonight and tomorrow.

Scotland's Future

Originally Posted by Rainfall

Maybe the Scots should have a look at Norway which has been collecting the profits from North Sea oil in its government pension fund. It's total value is $783.3 billion at present, divided by 5 million population it's an asset of $157,000 each single Norwegian owns. Just imagine how much sweeter or earlier your retirement could be if the British government hadn't wasted your birthright to fill the pockets of international capitalists.

40 quid for a bottle of scotch? The scots will nay pay that.

Most of the ones I know would rather drink "voddy", Norway has also one of the worlds largest oil reserves, higher grade as well. But I'm all for it, can you take the Toon with ya?

Originally Posted by Mr Lick

40 quid for a bottle of scotch? The scots will nay pay that.

Of course we will:

Originally Posted by AndyCap

can you take the Toon with ya?

Aye, after all you are all just Scotsmen with your' heids kicked in.

There are now few people who still argue that Scotland does not have the strength or capacity to be independent. The UK Prime Minister, David Cameron, has recognised that this is the case[13].

Most countries in the world generate less wealth per head than Scotland - including the UK as a whole. If Scotland cannot afford to be independent, neither can the UK.

We pay our own way

Over each of the last 32 years, estimates show that Scotland has contributed more tax per head of population than the rest of the UK. In 2011/12 we generated £10,700 of tax revenues per head, compared to £9,000 for the UK[14].

We spend a lower proportion of both our national output and our tax revenues on social protection - things like pensions and welfare - than the UK, which means that Scotland is wealthy enough to look after our most vulnerable people.

Taken as a whole, Scotland's national accounts are healthier than the UK's. Over the last five years they have been stronger to the tune of £12.6 billion - almost £2,400 for every person living in Scotland. That is money that could have been used to deliver more for public services such as our schools and hospitals, to reduce taxes or to cut the amount we need to borrow. More importantly, it shows that Scotland has firm financial foundations. We have the economic and financial strength we need to choose independence.

Thanks for that....I think, but you can see our predicament, once you lot have shoved off, were the far Norths unwanted, so we might as well fuk off with ya or start our own process. Why do we have to stay with Brummies and lager shandy drinking Londoners?

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Every Billion counts.

On independence, Scotland will accept a fair share of the existing UK debt. The amount of the debt that we accept will be subject to negotiations. We will also be entitled to a fair share of UK assets (assets that our taxes have helped to pay for). The debt could be apportioned by reference to the historic contribution made to the UK's public finances by Scotland. An alternative approach would be to use a population share. In either case, Scotland's debt is projected to be lower as a proportion of GDP than that of the UK as a whole.

Originally Posted by dirk diggler

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Every Billion counts.

On independence, Scotland will accept a fair share of the existing UK debt. The amount of the debt that we accept will be subject to negotiations. We will also be entitled to a fair share of UK assets (assets that our taxes have helped to pay for). The debt could be apportioned by reference to the historic contribution made to the UK's public finances by Scotland. An alternative approach would be to use a population share. In either case, Scotland's debt is projected to be lower as a proportion of GDP than that of the UK as a whole.

First two words are the key there.

If Jabba doesn't win the referendum hopefully he'll pass the baton to someone less smug.

If Scotland cannot afford to be independent then neither can the UK. So even if it is not the ultimate answer it's still better than it's current situation.

I would be embarrassed if I was a Scot. Look at your leaders....Salmond, what a fucking joke of a man. He wants to be Braveheart but he cant even take care of himself in terms of eating a healthy diet and exercising, fucking disgrace if you ask me.

Then you have Nicola Sturgeon, Jesus fucking wept, she looks like a fucking cagefighter and sports a barnet that must be the result of a bet she lost.

Good luck showing off your new leaders to the world, innit, look at us, we deep fry mars bars and we're all ugly as fuck!

Originally Posted by dirk diggler

If Scotland cannot afford to be independent then neither can the UK. So even if it is not the ultimate answer it's still better than it's current situation.

In what universe does that make any sense?

A visitors guide to Scotland:

Originally Posted by flashbang

I would be embarrassed if I was a Scot. Look at your leaders....Salmond, what a fucking joke of a man. He wants to be Braveheart but he cant even take care of himself in terms of eating a healthy diet and exercising, fucking disgrace if you ask me.

Then you have Nicola Sturgeon, Jesus fucking wept, she looks like a fucking cagefighter and sports a barnet that must be the result of a bet she lost.

Good luck showing off your new leaders to the world, innit, look at us, we deep fry mars bars and we're all ugly as fuck!

They are not our leaders you idiot. We are not voting for Alex Salmond or SNP. We are voting for Independence. If successful we will vote for our desired leaders.

Originally Posted by flashbang

Quote:
Originally Posted by dirk diggler
If Scotland cannot afford to be independent then neither can the UK. So even if it is not the ultimate answer it's still better than it's current situation.

In what universe does that make any sense?

Which part are you having difficulty with, the truth?

Originally Posted by Gerbil

A visitors guide to Scotland:

Now, I'm all for good banter and I'll give as good as I get, but that was a pretty poor effort. Lame and unfunny. The potential is there for hilarity when ripping into Scotland but that was shit. Nobody rips into Scotland better than we do.

In a little over 2 years time you would probably marry her for a visa.

Good luck to the Scots whatever their decision . The timing for this referendum probably couldn't have come at a worst time with so much uncertainty re the world economy and the on going financial and debt crises which won’t ever be resolved until the white collar criminals of Wall Street and the City of London and their bought political abettors face the inside of a prison cell.

Originally Posted by flashbang

Scottish accent on a girl is a big turn off, they sound blokes who are gonna kick the shit out of you.

Give over. Your giving me the horn.

I find the Edinburgh accent quite attractive on a woman.