Thread: U.K. Support for Scottish Independence Is Increasing, Poll Says

Originally Posted by ENT

Cumbrians are genetically closer to the Welsh and Scots than English, and Yorkshiremen have more kinship with Vikings than Saxons.

The home counties English are closer to Saxon, Flemish, Dutch and Norman, very little Viking.

You'd have thought that people would've interbred a bit by now.

So, as I have Irish ancestry should I stop calling myself English?

Originally Posted by ENT

Answer to your question is;
Citizen of the U.K.

Actually, it's British.

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

Originally Posted by ENT

Cumbrians are genetically closer to the Welsh and Scots than English, and Yorkshiremen have more kinship with Vikings than Saxons.

The home counties English are closer to Saxon, Flemish, Dutch and Norman, very little Viking.

You'd have thought that people would've interbred a bit by now.

So, as I have Irish ancestry should I stop calling myself English?

No, you're a mongrel, like the rest of us.

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

Originally Posted by ENT

Answer to your question is;
Citizen of the U.K.

Actually, it's British.

That's the designated and preferred self description of the English, and extended to include the Irish Welsh and Scots, by decree, not by consent.

Originally Posted by astasinim

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

Originally Posted by ENT

Cumbrians are genetically closer to the Welsh and Scots than English, and Yorkshiremen have more kinship with Vikings than Saxons.

The home counties English are closer to Saxon, Flemish, Dutch and Norman, very little Viking.

You'd have thought that people would've interbred a bit by now.

So, as I have Irish ancestry should I stop calling myself English?

Im wondering if I should change my nationality to Welsh seeing as my great grandfather was from there. All starts to get a little muddy now though doesnt it, and not as easy to generalise.

A bit like some people in NZ who claim to be Maori with only 1/64 Maori ancestry.
Similar to Charles Windsor's claim to being Welsh, or mine to being Chinese.

If you are of predominantly Saxon descent in the UK you are most likely self designated and normally accepted as being English.

Originally Posted by ENT

If you are of predominantly Saxon descent in the UK you are most likely self designated and normally accepted as being English.

And British.

Sykes et al and Cavali Svorza have done heaps to clear up ancestral lineages.
Interesting stuff, the human genome project.

There are no pure breeds, the Welsh and Irish are the most homogenous of all lineages.
Their female mitDNA was largely imported from France and Spain.
Celt-Iberians with Berber DNA, along with Armenian are strong lineages among them.

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

Originally Posted by ENT

If you are of predominantly Saxon descent in the UK you are most likely self designated and normally accepted as being English.

And British.

Another English self designation, yes.

The image of Brittania was invoked as the personification of English heroism.
Thus arose the term British, designating those subject to Brittania.

The Welsh, Scots and Irish don't see themselves as subject to her image, a romance.

The title of Prince of Wales is also an English self appointment to the crown of England, not an accolade or title awarded to the English by the Welsh.

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

Originally Posted by ENT

You are English, so can not accept anything that threatens your colonialist status.

Wales, Scotland & NI cost England money. Why would anyone in England want to 'keep' them?

Is that simple enough for you now?

Quite my point.

Devolution of the UK into a system similar to that which existed during the time of the Mercian Kingdoms would free England.

Vote YES to Scottish Independence and these twats will leave

Can we please give the Scots their independance then i won't have to see that fat cnut Alex Sammon on the TV! While we are at it the Welsh can have it as well! Get their crap flags of ours!!! Independance for all! We don't need the jocks as North Sea oil will run out soon, then they'll have to pay for there own prescriptions.
Leeches the lot of em! If it was not for the English they'd still be shagging sheep living in stone huts.....
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Vote NO keep those twats up there, imagine them and the Romanians and Bulgarians down here, fekking anarchy would hit the English streets

Originally Posted by dirk diggler

Vote YES to Scottish Independence and these twats will leave

I'm all for Scottish independence if they vote for it just so long as they take all their 'votees' living down south onto their benefit system and off ours.
By the way, it was not Scottish money that produced the north sea oilfields and pipelines.

Originally Posted by Chittychangchang

Can we please give the Scots their independance then i won't have to see that fat cnut Alex Sammon on the TV! While we are at it the Welsh can have it as well! Get their crap flags of ours!!! Independance for all! We don't need the jocks as North Sea oil will run out soon, then they'll have to pay for there own prescriptions.
Leeches the lot of em! If it was not for the English they'd still be shagging sheep living in stone huts.....
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Another laughable remark. Just a reminder, England have already claimed a good chunk of the North Sea as English waters and it stretches way further North than the border.

The North Sea oil will run out is of no major concern either. There's just as much English working in the North Sea as Jocks. By the time oil runs out we won't even need it any more and the oil companies know this. Without a doubt they already have the renewable energy market sussed but are keeping it under wraps until necessary. The oil industry will never die but will adapt with the times.

In the meantime there's oil and gas all over the world that requires man power, we're not only earning from the North Sea.

Don't be so deluded as to think that England are subsidising Scotland either. That is the funniest part of this thread.

Ok, in a sense it is correct, but the 'pocket money' or 'subsidy' that we are given is less than is taken by the crown in the first place.

Do you really think we would have free prescriptions and University for Scotland (and not Rest of UK) if we were running at a loss?

Originally Posted by klong toey

If they want independence the can fund their own defense policy.

There's a fair skelp of Jocks in the Armed Forces. Over 90% of SAS are Jocks. We'll take our fair share of the personnel and assests of the Armed forces and we'll be just fine.

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

Scotland has more to lost than England has to gain, of course we want shot of the burden of Scotland.

Burden, haha. You're posts throughout this thread are cringe-worthy at best. Scotland is the UK's prized possession, why do you think Cameron is absolutely bricking it?

Originally Posted by Neo

Fuck them off and then make them apply for visas and work permits to come to England.

Works both ways, OUCH.

But yeah, it's EU so irrelevant. We could make it relevant though.

Vote YES

Originally Posted by dobella

By the way, it was not Scottish money that produced the north sea oilfields

Correct. Lets have a big shout for our prehistoric counterparts for dying in our region. Respectasaurus!

Originally Posted by Yasojack

Vote NO keep those twats up there, imagine them and the Romanians and Bulgarians down here, fekking anarchy would hit the English streets

Vote YES to get these idiots off our streets and sent to London where they can join the other scroungers.

If Scotland does get independence, then they will be given their share of the National debt , so, for English people, the National debt will decrease by 30 odd % overnight .

Well we're hardly going to divide the debt by land mass.

England's debt will not be increased, it will just no longer be unfairly shared.

Originally Posted by dirk diggler

Well we're hardly going to divide the debt by land mass.

England's debt will not be increased, it will just no longer be unfairly shared.

Scotlands percentage of debt can be agreed upon , percentage of population and percentage of debt sounds fair enough .
Scotland can then be responsible for its own E.U. contributions , NATO contributions , European Parliament contributions and everything else.
Geroge Galloway , Gordon Brown , Alastair Darling and all the other Scottish politicians can then go back to Scotland and stop meddling in Englands political affairs

If Scotland were to get independence , they may be some initial bureaucratic changes , but there will be no difference to Scottish peoles lives on a daily basis.
They will get their own Parliament ? They already have it .
Get their own currency ? Already have it .
Get their own Football team ? Already have it .
Passports, they will keep the same ones , maybe different wording on the passport .
Scots and English will still be able to cross the border without any change.
There will hardly be any difference at all .
And when Scottish people go abroad and say that they are from Scotland, everyones still going to look at them blankly and ask where abouts Scotland is