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    Vitamin E linked with Prostate Cancer

    Vitamin E Link To Prostate Cancer Warning

    Wednesday, 12th October 2011 01:04

    Men have been warned to be wary of vitamin E supplements after research showed they significantly increase the risk of prostate cancer.


    A study of more than 35,000 men found that those taking a high dose were 17% more likely to be diagnosed with the cancer than men taking dummy pills.
    The effect continued long after men stopped taking the supplement.
    US researchers writing in The Journal of the American Medical Association said men should be sceptical of health claims made for vitamins.
    Lead investigator Dr Eric Klein, of the Cleveland Clinic in Chicago, said: "The implications of our observations are substantial.
    "The increase in prostate cancer incidence demonstrates the potential for seemingly innocuous yet biologically active substances such as vitamins to do harm."
    Researchers gave the men a dose of 400 international units (IU) of the vitamin a day. The recommended dietary allowance is 22.4 IU for adult men.
    The researchers had been attempting to confirm previous studies that showed vitamin E and the mineral selenium could prevent prostate cancer.
    Instead, they found that both supplements increase the likelihood of the disease, though in the case of selenium the risk was not statistically significant.
    The scientists have been unable to find a biological reason why vitamin E makes men more susceptible to prostate cancer.
    Dr Helen Rippon, of The Prostate Cancer Charity, said supplements are often - wrongly - seen as risk-free.
    "Unfortunately for men, this means that a simple dietary supplement to protect against prostate cancer remains elusive," she said.
    "Any man wishing to reduce their risk of the disease should stick to a healthy, balanced diet."
    The Health Supplements Information Service, which represents vitamin manufacturers, said the dose used in the trial was "very high" and urged people to stick to recommended doses.

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    There was a seminar about two years ago, i forget the doctors name, but she claimed the `codex alimentarius`, which is as an EU body if i'm not mistaken, will attack the natural and vitamin supplement market at the start of 2011. She and others believe the Big Pharma is pushing this belief that vitamins are bad to favour their products which are laden with chemicals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    Researchers gave the men a dose of 400 international units (IU) of the vitamin a day. The recommended dietary allowance is 22.4 IU for adult men.
    That means they got 20 times the recommended daily allowance, the RDA. Unfortunately many people take such mega doses on some spurious health promises. Easy to imagine it involves some risk.

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    There has been this matra that vitimins are only good for you and the body harmlessly disposes of the excess; which is not becoming plainly false.

    apparently taking vitamin C whilst on a course of chemo is very very bad. it really does help the cancer beat the drugs!

    there was a study in Sweden that has discovered that long term doubling your RDA of vitamin A doubles the risk of a broken hip. This has become a serious issue for Sweden.

    I think its a case of everything in moderation, is what best for you

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    I'm sure vitamin e is good for us , but perhaps best to get it from fresh raw nuts ,think almonds are the best source, though one or two of a variety every day has to be very healthy.

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    Seems like everything causes cancer these days, there re no miracle vitamin cures so best to do everything in modertaion

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesus Jones View Post
    There was a seminar about two years ago, i forget the doctors name, but she claimed the `codex alimentarius`, which is as an EU body if i'm not mistaken, will attack the natural and vitamin supplement market at the start of 2011. She and others believe the Big Pharma is pushing this belief that vitamins are bad to favour their products which are laden with chemicals.


    100% corect JJ.

    A few years ago I was told that ascorbic acid powder was not available over the counter any more woldwide, a "restricted drug" due to side effects of OD.

    I couldn't buy it anywhere for 4 years

    Today I buy Vit C ascorbate easily in NZ.

    Vits , minerals and other dietary supplements work well if used intelligently.

    There is no one magic fomula.

    Holistic use of food, drugs etc is called for.

    The drug companies don't encourage self-healing at all, they have no motive in encouraging a competing product or science.

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    ^ strange Iv'e been buying food grade or better ascorbic acid and vitamin c in the uk by the kg for over 15 years.

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    This reminds me of an Aussie guy( Jon Edmondson....or perhaps Edmondstone) in the 1970s who regularly took massive amounts of vitamin c. He was super-fit and set push-up records. Had his own brand of various other pills called Enerjon.
    Years later I looked him up on the net and he'd unexpectedly died due to a reaction to the aneasthetic in a minor operation.
    Large doses of Vit C interfere with medication. So it's only natural to assume that Vit E does too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesus Jones View Post
    There was a seminar about two years ago, i forget the doctors name, but she claimed the `codex alimentarius`, which is as an EU body if i'm not mistaken, will attack the natural and vitamin supplement market at the start of 2011. She and others believe the Big Pharma is pushing this belief that vitamins are bad to favour their products which are laden with chemicals.
    Vit C in the form of ascorbic acid powder became unavailable globally in 2006.
    Since then, Big Pharma has been circumvented a little, now I am able to buy the product over the counter in NZ.

    The "legal" drug industry is doing its utmost to limit vitamin use in the community unless the vitamins are buffered, usually with calcium. This bulks up the product and when packaged is presented for sale in over-sized containers.
    So we end up paying up to 20 times more for the base vitamin than we need to.

    The fact that Vit E in the above quote was administered at 20 times the necessary dose does not prove that Vit E increases the risk of prostrate cancer, rather that the overdose of Vit E was a problem.

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    Vit C was also unavailable in Thailand up until recently, not even available in hospitals except in tablet form.
    Vitamins and minerals in balance work well together, overloading on any food or vitamin simply creates an unusable excess of same in the body, and the liver must process that, using up valuable enzymes.

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