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    Ground Zero "mosque" opens without protests


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    Ground Zero "mosque" opens without protests

    Published: 22 September, 2011, 21:05
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    The proposed construction of an Islamic center near Ground Zero in New York caused outrage when it was announced two years ago. Now days after the 10-year anniversary of the 9/11 terrorist attacks, the facility opened last night to no opposition.

    People flocked to lower Manhattan on Wednesday night to attend the opening of the first exhibit at the Islamic center at 51 Park Place. Only two blocks from where the Twin Towers once stood in New York City, the facility, named Park51, has garnered protests since it was first announced. After two years in the making, though, last night’s opening went off without a hitch.

    A photography exhibit showcasing the children of New York of various ethnicities was the first installation made public at the center. Traditional Middle Eastern music filled the halls as crowds gathered to take in the sights last night.And while the facility received criticism at first, it has so far managed to overcome the naysayers and hopes to continue to provide for all people of New York.

    The building’s developer, however, did acknowledge that the construction could have been handled differently. "We made incredible mistakes," Sharif El-Gamal, the center's developer, told the Associated Press last night. “The biggest mistake we made was not to include 9/11 families.”

    Only after the proposed construction received notoriety did the advisory board of the center reach out to victims’ families for input; today, at least one member of the board is the family member affected by the September 11 attacks. “We’re very committed to having them involved in our project,” El-Gamal adds to the AP. “We're really listening."

    While the media has often misrepresented the facility as a mosque, or Islamic house of worship, the developer says he modeled the building after a Jewish Community Center on the Upper West Side of Manhattan that he, a Muslim, would often attend with his son. His own facility does contain a prayer center, but also hosts instructional classes in yoga and martial arts and discussion groups. Eventually El-Gamal hopes to include a gymnasium, swimming pool and other non-denominational entities.

    El-Gamal acknowledges that the public has been weary of the facility and still questions the merit behind opening an Islamic-centric center only blocks from where extremists killed thousands a decade earlier. Speaking to the AP, the developer says there indeed has been a "campaign against Muslims” since the project began.

    “It is ridiculous that Park51 tries to say this is anything but a mosque,” Martin Mawyer, president of the Christian Action Network, tells FrontPage. “Churches have gyms, classes and other facilities as part of their buildings, and they could never get away with saying it is anything but a church,”

    The inclusion of a prayer space, says El-Gamal, is critical to the Muslim community of Manhattan. Nearly 2 million Muslims inhabit the United States, and it estimated that upwards of half of them reside in New York City. El-Gamal claims that thousands of Muslims either live or work in the area surrounding Park51, and since the religion calls for worshipers to prayer five times a day, providing a space to do so offers a haven for many area Muslims.


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    No protests huh..?

    Guess the gung-ho armchair warriors were too busy eating bbq ribs that day.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Neo
    No protests huh..?

    Guess the gung-ho armchair warriors were too busy eating bbq ribs that day.
    Typical New Yorkers..all mouth and no trousers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bold Rodney View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Neo
    No protests huh..?

    Guess the gung-ho armchair warriors were too busy eating bbq ribs that day.
    Typical New Yorkers..all mouth and no trousers.
    I'm hoping the protest will come later.....along with a big explosion.
    Islam is societal cancer.

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    Too many eyes watching on opening day - just wait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neo
    “It is ridiculous that Park51 tries to say this is anything but a mosque,” Martin Mawyer, president of the Christian Action Network, tells FrontPage.
    It is ridiculous how ignorant this buffoon is then, because Park 51 is factually not a Mosque. A Mosque, like a Church, is consecrated by it's religious authorities and has one or more Mullahs (Priests) attached to run the place and give sermons. A prayer room doesn't, and is in no way consecrated or approved by a religion- it is exactly what it says, a prayer room. Given the price of real estate in Manhattan, perhaps they should just paint arrows on the pavement pointing to Mecca, and let the muzzies do their thing there instead?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jools View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by The Bold Rodney View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Neo
    No protests huh..?

    Guess the gung-ho armchair warriors were too busy eating bbq ribs that day.
    Typical New Yorkers..all mouth and no trousers.
    I'm hoping the protest will come later.....along with a big explosion.
    Islam is societal cancer.
    I think you are wrong, like any religion, the precepts are for good, it's the cultural application of them that get the shit stirring. The middle eastern male dominated cultures are using the religion to further their politicsof hate and suppression of sexuality. There have been plenty of whacko Christians out there killing folks.

    I am glad to see it opening. These people are about bringing differences together.
    " Mozzie" hate is just another ploy by the weapons manufacturers and their media outlets to expand profits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KAPPA View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jools View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neo
    No protests huh..?

    Guess the gung-ho armchair warriors were too busy eating bbq ribs that day.
    Typical New Yorkers..all mouth and no trousers.
    I'm hoping the protest will come later.....along with a big explosion.
    Islam is societal cancer.
    I think you are wrong, like any religion, the precepts are for good, it's the cultural application of them that get the shit stirring. The middle eastern male dominated cultures are using the religion to further their politicsof hate and suppression of sexuality. There have been plenty of whacko Christians out there killing folks.

    I am glad to see it opening. These people are about bringing differences together.
    " Mozzie" hate is just another ploy by the weapons manufacturers and their media outlets to expand profits.
    If they wanted to demonstrate that Islam has any consideration for other religions, they would have publicly declared that they would not put this in a place so sensitive.

    I hope someone torches the fucking place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    .....perhaps they should just paint arrows on the pavement pointing to Mecca, and let the muzzies do their thing there instead?
    on the streets of my town? no thanks... I would not like to see this in the community that i live in. The loud speakers calling the faithful to prayers at 0 dark thirty and other times during the day would be objectionable to me.

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    Absolutely disgraceful that these dirty muzzies even considered building their mosque in such a sensitive place. This is a clear indication of their total disrespect for anyone other than themselves.

    Bomb the fvcking place.

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    I'm from NYC and I'm not particularly thrilled about the 'prayer room' deal, but if they continue their 'live and let live' low-key attitude and don't participate in the more radical expressions of Islam, I'm OK with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FailSafe View Post
    I'm from NYC and I'm not particularly thrilled about the 'prayer room' deal, but if they continue their 'live and let live' low-key attitude and don't participate in the more radical expressions of Islam, I'm OK with it.
    Low-key as in not publicly announcing their knowledge of extremists or for plans for their next terrorist attack?

    Yeah, right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strongarm View Post
    This is a clear indication of their total disrespect for anyone other than themselves.

    Bomb the fvcking place.
    American..?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FailSafe
    I'm from NYC and I'm not particularly thrilled about the 'prayer room' deal, but if they continue their 'live and let live' low-key attitude and don't participate in the more radical expressions of Islam, I'm OK with it.
    I tend to agree with your sentiments, however pandering and facilitating these arseholes never seems to be enough for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bold Rodney View Post
    however pandering and facilitating these arseholes never seems to be enough for them.
    Americans..?

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    Why not a prayer room at or near WTC?

    The musies didn't fly the planes anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FailSafe View Post
    I'm from NYC and I'm not particularly thrilled about the 'prayer room' deal, but if they continue their 'live and let live' low-key attitude and don't participate in the more radical expressions of Islam, I'm OK with it.

    dream-on buddy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT
    Why not a prayer room at or near WTC?
    There was a Prayer room in the WTC actually. I have no idea if there will be one in the new WTC though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FailSafe View Post
    I'm from NYC and I'm not particularly thrilled about the 'prayer room' deal, but if they continue their 'live and let live' low-key attitude and don't participate in the more radical expressions of Islam, I'm OK with it.
    Later on they will become harder and harder and there will be fatwa or kill order on someone every week, seen it in the UK. But there is no way back now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SEA Traveler
    on the streets of my town? no thanks.
    Likewise- I don't really care about the Moslem thing, but any religion that has to pray twice a day at a particular time, well I'd rather them be doing it in some prayer room than blocking the damn pavements and yelling out their mumbo jumbo in public.
    Last edited by sabang; 24-09-2011 at 10:59 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT View Post
    Why not a prayer room at or near WTC?

    The musies didn't fly the planes anyway.
    There should be a prayer room in every airplane. Why not, it is their right. And they could assemble the bombs there as well, so it would a multi-utility room.

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