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    Amish men face jail in buggy safety ruling

    Nine Amish men who refused to display an orange reflective triangle on their horse-drawn buggies have been ordered to jail for not paying court-imposed fines.
    The men belong to the ultraconservative Old Order Swartzentruber Amish sect in western Kentucky. They object to the triangles because the bright colour violates their modesty code.
    The Courier-Journal reports that the men say paying the fines would amount to complying with a law they believe violates their religious strictures.
    Graves County District Judge Deborah Hawkins Crooks sentenced the men Monday to three to 10 days in jail.
    The Kentucky Court of Appeals in June denied the defendants' appeal on the misdemeanour convictions.




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    Pennsylvania is my birth home where I have experienced this first hand. In the Lancaster, Reading, Chamberburg, and other rural locations where there are lots of Amish their driving of horse and buggy in the evening/night and other times of poor viability is a safety hazard and to drive them in those conditions without lights and or the orange triangle endangers themselves and the general public.
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    They object to the triangles because the bright colour violates their modesty code.
    Dickheads.

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    ^It's a crock, too. Like SEA Traveler points out, the PA Amish use the triangles and other reflectors and they are still hard to see. I've never known the Amish to be unreasonable about this sort of thing or anything; as Christians the Amish are rather refreshing, because they are very much "cast the first stone" types, never criticizing anyone for not believing as they do. Maybe the Kentucky ones are radicals
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    The Ohio Amish make nice cheese. And quilts.

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    ^The PA ones too. Also will sell raw milk, which is illegal. They're renegades, the Amish.

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    very 21 st century affair
    government uses health and safety, the other side hits back with religious freedom

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    Quote Originally Posted by robuzo View Post
    ^The PA ones too. Also will sell raw milk, which is illegal. They're renegades, the Amish.

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    I am from North Tennessee less than a mile from the Kentucky line. There are many Menoite which are basically the same as Omish. There were accidents very often with the buggies because cars didn't see them at night. They put the red triangle reflectors on and the accidents all but disappeared. Now, an accident with one is rare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ralphlsasser View Post
    I am from North Tennessee less than a mile from the Kentucky line. There are many Menoite which are basically the same as Omish. There were accidents very often with the buggies because cars didn't see them at night. They put the red triangle reflectors on and the accidents all but disappeared. Now, an accident with one is rare.
    There are a lot of different branches, but you can call the Amish "Mennonites" accurately, they are just a very conservative sect of the "plain people."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koojo View Post
    They object to the triangles because the bright colour violates their modesty code.
    Dickheads.

    do you ever understand other peoples points of view?

    do you have any beliefs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SEA Traveler
    Thailand Expat SEA Traveler's Avatar Last Online: Today 01:04 PM Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Villa Sariano, Phala Beach, Ban Chang, Rayong, Thailand Posts: 2,387 SEA Traveler Thailand ExpatSEA Traveler Thailand ExpatSEA Traveler Thailand ExpatSEA Traveler Thailand ExpatSEA Traveler Thailand ExpatSEA Traveler Thailand ExpatSEA Traveler Thailand ExpatSEA Traveler Thailand ExpatSEA Traveler Thailand ExpatSEA Traveler Thailand ExpatSEA Traveler Thailand Expat Pennsylvania is my birth home where I have experienced this first hand. In the Lancaster, Reading, Chamberburg, and other rural locations where there are lots of Amish their driving of horse and buggy in the evening/night and other times of poor viability is a safety hazard and to drive them in those conditions without lights and or the orange triangle endangers themselves and the general public.
    Do you know if they'd object to a lantern? That seems archaic enough for them.

    Check out this expose' of the draconian ways of the Amish:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koojo View Post
    They object to the triangles because the bright colour violates their modesty code.
    Dickheads.
    I'm not sure who is the worst dickhead; these people or the nanny state that does not let adults decide their own fate. I could understand the State telling them they cannot transport children without the silly triangle, but if they want to die themselves, that should be an adult decision.

    It's good for me to read stories like this, reminds me why I choose to live in Thailand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobR
    I'm not sure who is the worst dickhead; these people or the nanny state that does not let adults decide their own fate.
    It's not their own fate they're deciding, it's other road users, not to mention their own horses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobR
    It's good for me to read stories like this, reminds me why I choose to live in Thailand.
    Just witnessed two deaths because of a truck parked on the side of a road at night with no reflectors. In Thailand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobR View Post
    I'm not sure who is the worst dickhead; these people or the nanny state that does not let adults decide their own fate. I could understand the State telling them they cannot transport children without the silly triangle, but if they want to die themselves, that should be an adult decision.

    a point to consider that was overlooked BobR is the fact that others on the road would be endangered as well... mainly the auto drivers and their passengers in the area where these buggies are riding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Koojo View Post
    They object to the triangles because the bright colour violates their modesty code.
    Dickheads.

    do you ever understand other peoples points of view?

    do you have any beliefs?
    Give me a break 'Modesty code'? A safety triangle on the buggy?
    I could understand if it were something that related to their person, but a safety triangle.....?
    I'll take the piss out of ridiculous and extreme beliefs wherever I find them regardless of what a little yapping nobody like you thinks.
    I must dig up that "who's the stupidest poster" poll/thread from a while back.
    Who won that Drandy? (by a long shot)
    Oh yes, it was you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SEA Traveler View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BobR View Post
    I'm not sure who is the worst dickhead; these people or the nanny state that does not let adults decide their own fate. I could understand the State telling them they cannot transport children without the silly triangle, but if they want to die themselves, that should be an adult decision.

    a point to consider that was overlooked BobR is the fact that others on the road would be endangered as well... mainly the auto drivers and their passengers in the area where these buggies are riding.
    Hitting a buggy in a car is not particularly dangerous, but like most of America's stupid so called safety laws, this one probably has more to do with increasing the profits of the well lobbied insurance companies than saving people from harm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobR
    Hitting a buggy in a car is not particularly dangerous,
    Damaged buggy. Dead Amish men, woman and children, dead horse, injured or dead car passengers, damaged car, possible damage, injuries or death to other road users as the car swerves at the last minute.....nah, safe as houses. It's just a simple precaution to prevent injuries and fatalities, where's the problem? What ulterior motive were the nine Amishmen driven by? That's the real question here. If they're serious about maintaining their traditions at all costs (even their own children's safety) why not just bite the bullet and avoid 'modern' things like cities and roads altogether?

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    When I was checking into the hotel in CM last week, a couple in front of me had completed all of the formalities, got a room on the forty-something floor, were about to leave, then turned round and said "We're Jewish, so on Fridays we can't use the elevator. That's a lot of stairs to walk".

    So it's not just the Amish who should stay in their retarded bloody villages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobR View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by BobR View Post
    I'm not sure who is the worst dickhead; these people or the nanny state that does not let adults decide their own fate. I could understand the State telling them they cannot transport children without the silly triangle, but if they want to die themselves, that should be an adult decision.

    a point to consider that was overlooked BobR is the fact that others on the road would be endangered as well... mainly the auto drivers and their passengers in the area where these buggies are riding.
    Hitting a buggy in a car is not particularly dangerous, but like most of America's stupid so called safety laws, this one probably has more to do with increasing the profits of the well lobbied insurance companies than saving people from harm.
    BobR, I'm noy buying your "Hitting a buggy in a car is not particularly dangerous," line. If you can't figure it out, no sense explaining. "peace to you anyway".

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    then turned round and said "We're Jewish, so on Fridays we can't use the elevator.
    Never heard of this. I think they must have been lying to get a different room. Reception should have said "If you don't like the elevator, or stairs, you could always try the window."

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    Whenever I see the word Amish I get to think about the movie "King pin" hilarious funny



    And one more -

    http://youtu.be/5zIDgPVg9HM
    Last edited by larvidchr; 13-09-2011 at 05:51 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koojo
    I must dig up that "who's the stupidest poster" poll/thread from a while back. Who won that Drandy? (by a long shot) Oh yes, it was you.
    hurry up then

    mind you don't trip up on your idiocy

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    Quote Originally Posted by larvidchr View Post
    Whenever I see the word Amish I get to think about the movie "King pin" hilarious funny



    And one more -

    http://youtu.be/5zIDgPVg9HM
    yup, "Woddy" can be very entertaining.....

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