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    Four dead in Nevada Restaurant shooting





    CARSON CITY, Nevada — A man armed with an AK-47 assault rifle shot five uniformed National Guard members eating breakfast at a restaurant in Nevada's capital on Tuesday, killing three of them and another person in a hail of gunfire, authorities and witnesses said.

    The suspect, who police say acted alone, also shot himself and later died at a hospital. He was identified as 32-year-old Eduardo Sencion of Carson City, Sheriff Kenny Furlong said.

    Eight other people were wounded in the attack. One of the Guard members killed was a man; the other was a woman, authorities said. A second female Guard member died after surgery at an area hospital, Furlong confirmed in a media release late Tuesday night. Two other Guard members were at local hospitals, NBC News reported.

    The motive for the shootings remains unclear.

    Sencion worked at a family business in nearby South Lake Tahoe, Calif., and had no known affiliations with anyone at the restaurant, Furlong said.

    Sencion's family had raised concerns about his mental health in interviews with investigators, Furlong said. He did not elaborate.

    Nevada National Guard spokeswoman April Conway said there's no indication the shooter had any connection with the Guard. The restaurant is about four miles from the Guard's headquarters complex.

    Investigators found another rifle and a pistol in the minivan that Sencion drove to the restaurant, police said.

    Witnesses said the gunman pulled up in a blue minivan around 9 a.m. and shot a man on a motorcycle, then walked inside the restaurant and started shooting. He then walked outside and fired shots at a barbecue restaurant and an H&R Block in the strip mall, and a casino across the street.

    "I don't know what's happening to my city," Fran Hunter, who works at a Sierra Le Bone, a pet shop just north of the IHOP, told the Reno Gazette-Journal. "This happens in L.A. or Las Vegas but not here."

    Police were interviewing more than 100 witnesses to the shooting, KRNV TV reported.

    Furlong said police were trying to determine whether the rifle involved in the shooting is automatic or semi-automatic.

    Officers received a call about the gunfire and responded within minutes, Furlong said. He said the suspect was wounded and lying in the parking lot when they arrived at the scene.

    Furlong added the person who was shot on the motorcycle also was alive when officers arrived, and was transported to a hospital.

    The state Capitol and Supreme Court buildings were locked down for about 40 minutes, and extra security measures were put in place at state and military buildings in northern Nevada following the shooting.

    "There were concerns at the onset, so we took certain steps to ensure we had the capability to embrace an even larger circumstance," Furlong said. "At this point in time it appears to be isolated to this parking lot."

    "As you know when you have people in uniform who are randomly targeted for whatever reason this may have been, it is a safety precaution we take very seriously," said Nevada Highway Patrol Trooper Chuck Allen.

    Renown Regional Medicare Center spokesman Dan Davis told The Associated Press four victims of the shooting were being treated at the hospital in Reno, but he said he could not discuss their condition or provide any other information.

    Kurt Althof, public relations manager for Care Flight, told the Gazette-Journal three victims had been taken to the hospital by helicopter and that two were in critical condition.

    Ralph Swagler, owner of another restaurant near the IHOP told the Reno Gazette-Journal that he witnessed the shooting. Swagler said he saw a man wearing a red shirt and black shorts pull up to the IHOP in a blue minivan. The man then pulled out a rifle and shot a man on a motorcycle, then walked inside IHOP and started shooting, Swagler told the newspaper.

    The man then fired several shots at other businesses in the area, including the Locals Barbecue and the H&R Block.

    "This happens in Third-World countries, not here," Swagler, owner of Locals Barbecue, told the newspaper.

    Local and state police and FBI agents descended on the scene on the main street in the state capital, also called U.S. 395. Yellow tape surrounded the parking lot near a Kohl's department store in a shopping complex across the street from a casino and hotel.

    "We just heard basically a string of gunshots, probably 5 to 7 back to back to back to back and then there was probably 30 second delay then an automatic weapon fired, probably 20 to 30 shots," said Gary Gamba, general sales manager at Michael Hohl Motors, which is across the street from the IHOP.



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    Just what is it with Americans and guns and shooting innocent people out doing their daily business???

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    Wow these shootings are just becoming more and more frequent. Seems a lot of mentally ill people don't just want to take their own lives anymore, No the want to "Go out with a bang" Sick foks

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    These acts are almost always followed by the ultimate cowardly act of suicide. Too bad all of these dysfunctional scumbags don't just top themselves and be done with it, rather than killing innocents to make some kind of point that is swirling around in their twisted minds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    "As you know when you have people in uniform who are randomly targeted for whatever reason this may have been, it is a safety precaution we take very seriously,"
    Whereas when civilians get shot we just laugh

    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    "This happens in Third-World countries, not here," Swagler, owner of Locals Barbecue, told the newspaper.
    I would say Swagler was misinformed

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    Licensed or un- licensed guns? Any further info?

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    now...if everyone was permitted to carry a gun..how many would he have shot??

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    An AK-47, when you absolutely positively got to kill every motherfucker in the room.

    It took one incident in Britain to get battle weapons banned, and one in Australia, correct? How many do we need to have in the US? What is the justification for this in the tiny minds of the gun lobby? Because if owning and operating one kind of firearm is banned, then they all will be? So, if I can't drive a Formula 1 vehicle on the highway or tool around my neighborhood in a Sherman tank, so does that mean I can't drive a '68 Chrysler Imperial?

    Hunters don't need that kind of weapon, and there is no justification for claiming to need that for home defense, unless you are a criminal planning to shoot someone similarly armed (like cops). I have no expectation that if these sorts of weapons, which are only good for shooting people, are banned that someone from ATF is going to come take away my shotgun and tell me I can't hunt anymore. Not to mention that if I ever discover I need, outside of some sort of Mad Max end-times fantasy scenario, more than my shotgun to defend my home (), I should probably get into a different line of work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nedwalk View Post
    now...if everyone was permitted to carry a gun..how many would he have shot??
    If they had fit birds dancing with their tits out how many would have been shot ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nedwalk View Post
    now...if everyone was permitted to carry a gun..how many would he have shot??
    It's Nevada. There were other people there with firearms. But not AK-47s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    "I don't know what's happening to my city," Fran Hunter, who works at a Sierra Le Bone, a pet shop just north of the IHOP, told the Reno Gazette-Journal. "This happens in L.A. or Las Vegas but not here."
    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    "This happens in Third-World countries, not here," Swagler, owner of Locals Barbecue, told the newspaper.
    Why so much denial

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    Quote Originally Posted by robuzo View Post
    An AK-47, when you absolutely positively got to kill every motherfucker in the room.

    It took one incident in Britain to get battle weapons banned, and one in Australia, correct? How many do we need to have in the US? What is the justification for this in the tiny minds of the gun lobby? Because if owning and operating one kind of firearm is banned, then they all will be? So, if I can't drive a Formula 1 vehicle on the highway or tool around my neighborhood in a Sherman tank, so does that mean I can't drive a '68 Chrysler Imperial?

    Hunters don't need that kind of weapon, and there is no justification for claiming to need that for home defense, unless you are a criminal planning to shoot someone similarly armed (like cops). I have no expectation that if these sorts of weapons, which are only good for shooting people, are banned that someone from ATF is going to come take away my shotgun and tell me I can't hunt anymore. Not to mention that if I ever discover I need, outside of some sort of Mad Max end-times fantasy scenario, more than my shotgun to defend my home (), I should probably get into a different line of work.
    You sound like a fucking idiot, he had a semi automatic Ak, a weapon similar to most hunting rifles. You've just been brainwashed, and when you hear the word AK you think of some sinister weapon that kills people all over the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robuzo
    An AK-47, when you absolutely positively got to kill every motherfucker in the room.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Gribbs View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by robuzo View Post
    An AK-47, when you absolutely positively got to kill every motherfucker in the room.

    It took one incident in Britain to get battle weapons banned, and one in Australia, correct? How many do we need to have in the US? What is the justification for this in the tiny minds of the gun lobby? Because if owning and operating one kind of firearm is banned, then they all will be? So, if I can't drive a Formula 1 vehicle on the highway or tool around my neighborhood in a Sherman tank, so does that mean I can't drive a '68 Chrysler Imperial?

    Hunters don't need that kind of weapon, and there is no justification for claiming to need that for home defense, unless you are a criminal planning to shoot someone similarly armed (like cops). I have no expectation that if these sorts of weapons, which are only good for shooting people, are banned that someone from ATF is going to come take away my shotgun and tell me I can't hunt anymore. Not to mention that if I ever discover I need, outside of some sort of Mad Max end-times fantasy scenario, more than my shotgun to defend my home (), I should probably get into a different line of work.
    You sound like a fucking idiot, he had a semi automatic Ak, a weapon similar to most hunting rifles. You've just been brainwashed, and when you hear the word AK you think of some sinister weapon that kills people all over the world.
    Does it matter if it was the semi auto AK or the full auto? Not really, he would have used any gun he could get his hands on, whatever.

    But, are you trying to say AK's dont kill people all around the world every day, arent the weapon of choice for all sorts of unsavoury regimes and armed groups, and arent a historical weapon of mass destruction? Bullshit mate.

    If a weapon that has been involved in genocides around the world, and is used by everyone from child soldiers in the Congo to nutcases in the US on the rampage, isnt sinister then what is?
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    An AK for hunting? Didn't know we had Hmong posters on here.

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    This happened just a few miles north of where my Mom lives and I had to call after I saw it on the internet. All is well, and the national news is making it a bigger story than the local news. Nevadans are pretty western (meaning like cowboys) and believe in their firearms, but this is the extreme case if lunacy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robuzo
    It took one incident in Britain to get battle weapons banned, and one in Australia, correct? How many do we need to have in the US? What is the justification for this in the tiny minds of the gun lobby? Because if owning and operating one kind of firearm is banned, then they all will be? So, if I can't drive a Formula 1 vehicle on the highway or tool around my neighborhood in a Sherman tank, so does that mean I can't drive a '68 Chrysler Imperial?
    Maybe it only took one incident because the British Government was looking for an excuse to ban them. This is the same screwed up Government that expects you to flee your house and leave all your belonging for anyone who breaks in, and is quite willing and ready to persecute (or prosecute) any homeowner who defends his property or himself. Kind of like a mass public neutering.
    The American gun laws are one of the very few things about America I am still proud of. Guns do not kill people, looney tunes do, and we do have laws to keep guns out of the hands of criminals and mentally unstable persons, sadly they do not always work.

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    You will never get firearms banned in the US. It is a core right to have these kinds of weapons and too many rich have very nice gun collections that they are not willing to give up. I always felt better having a weapon in the house (locked up of course) and have had it in my hand a couple of times during some pretty tense situations.
    The saying goes, " don't take a knife to a gun fight." Most countries outside the US do not understand the heritage that a firearm has in the history of North America. This will never change, so don't even try to use logic to argue against it.

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    "The American gun laws" vary greatly from state to state. I think the hardcore NRA "a gun is a gun" position is beyond stupid, more like insane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobR View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by robuzo
    It took one incident in Britain to get battle weapons banned, and one in Australia, correct? How many do we need to have in the US? What is the justification for this in the tiny minds of the gun lobby? Because if owning and operating one kind of firearm is banned, then they all will be? So, if I can't drive a Formula 1 vehicle on the highway or tool around my neighborhood in a Sherman tank, so does that mean I can't drive a '68 Chrysler Imperial?
    Maybe it only took one incident because the British Government was looking for an excuse to ban them. This is the same screwed up Government that expects you to flee your house and leave all your belonging for anyone who breaks in, and is quite willing and ready to persecute (or prosecute) any homeowner who defends his property or himself. Kind of like a mass public neutering.
    The American gun laws are one of the very few things about America I am still proud of. Guns do not kill people, looney tunes do, and we do have laws to keep guns out of the hands of criminals and mentally unstable persons, sadly they do not always work.
    yup but unfortunately no grip on controlling the number of looney tunes you create.
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    Quote Originally Posted by robuzo View Post
    "The American gun laws" vary greatly from state to state. I think the hardcore NRA "a gun is a gun" position is beyond stupid, more like insane.
    Are you an NRA member?

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    ^No, used to be a very long time ago but they are too extreme. I don't see anything wrong with chemical signatures in explosives, and think there should be limits on the weaponry available to people who don't need it. I don't want the cops outgunned. There is no call for private citizens holding military weaponry. I am not at all worried about the government trying to take hunting weapons away in the US, it won't happen. As to handguns, I'm a bit ambivalent. I don't see too much wrong with fairly easy licensing for conceal and carry- the most liberal state in the US allows concealed carry without a permit and has very low rates of violent crime (I don't think it is low because it is OK to carry a pistol, but rather the culture of Vermont)- but I don't think people should be taking them into bars, etc.

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    The efforts to describe what an assault weapon is have often outlawed legitimate guns. When I was a policeman I carried a Glock Model 21. It's a high quality plastic frame 45 caliber pistol that held 14 rounds, and by some of the definitions in some states that was considered an assault weapon.
    The real menace guns are the cheap high capacity low quality assault type weapons that truly have no legitimate use. law enforcement would not use these cheap low quality weapons, and no real gun enthusiast was have one in his collection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thehighlander959 View Post
    Just what is it with Americans and guns and shooting innocent people out doing their daily business???

    He's Mexican, if you didn't notice. AKA...a spic.

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