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    Yes let's all see the link butterfly... .. or even the transcript if that's easier for you.


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    are you a chav Neo by any chance ? could explain your listening comprehension issue

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    Well done butterfly... now listen to it carefully and learn something from people that really know what they are talking about.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
    are you a chav Neo by any chance ? could explain your listening comprehension issue
    Your insults won't deflect from the fact that you have been caught talking rubbish yet again. Listen and learn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neo
    now listen to it carefully and learn something from people that really know what they are talking about.
    yes apparently you don't understand the English language Neo, normal for a Chav like yourself

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neo
    Your insults won't deflect from the fact that you have been caught talking rubbish yet again.
    link ? your misunderstanding between financial responsibility and financial volatility is for all to see here

    no, it's not the same thing

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    Quote Originally Posted by socal
    Gold is a wealth reserve asset. It never goes down, it never has. It never makes new all time lows.
    Always dangerous to say something never happens.

    Anyway, when humanity overcomes its superstitious views of gold then it will just become another funny story of human history - like when native Americans sold Manhatten for a few beads and bobbles. Do you think, Socal, those beads and bobbles are still worth the same as that island in New York?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Neo
    Your insults won't deflect from the fact that you have been caught talking rubbish yet again.
    link ? your misunderstanding between financial responsibility and financial volatility is for all to see here

    no, it's not the same thing

    First. It's not my point of view that is being put forward, rather the view of some very well placed individuals in the financial sector, so as usual you are fudging the discussion of a financial analysis that doesn't support your misguided view by focusing on a personal grudge match.

    Second. still..
    Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming "Wow! What a Ride!"

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    ^ very well thought argument by a chav, next

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    Yaaaawn...

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    listen you chav, I am kind enough to engage you while I should actually piss on your face for being an English scum, so please humor me

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    Quote Originally Posted by socal View Post
    Gold is a wealth reserve asset. It never goes down, it never has. It never makes new all time lows. Show me one time in history where gold has made a new low.
    Whilst I do have some gold, I have never really understood what the gold bugs see in gold. If you look at and inflation adjusted index for gold over the last century, you will see that for most of the century its been a rather rubbish investment. the last 10 years has been very good, which might be why its hard to find gold charts that go back more than 10 years.

    Here is one for 1913-2010, blue is for the absolute dollar price, and the red line is for the value of gold in inflation adjusted 2010 us dollars. The problem I have with gold as a long term investment at the mo, is that the price is high because people are selling out their shares and bying gold. At sometime in the future they will want to get back into the stock market and will want to sell their gold, at this point gold is going to crash in value. Its not going to happen at the mo because of general fear in the stock market but once stock market confidence comes back, I think we will see gold crash in price, just as it did under similar circumstances in the late 70's/ early 1980's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by socal
    Gold is a wealth reserve asset. It never goes down, it never has. It never makes new all time lows.
    and ? Gold doesn't make the economy run, by your logic if everyone would put their cash or assets into Gold, price would be 100,000 USD instead of 1,800 USD and the economy would probably stop for lack of funding. What a concept. No running economy and yet a high price for Gold. Everyone would be sitting on their ass waiting, with no jobs or any business to run. So much for being rich on paper.
    The future is, more and more people will put long term savings in gold rather then in cash deposits in banks that governments and wall street can exploit. That is where the world is going. That is why it is not a good idea to stay out of the gold market, at these prices.

    If 40 or 50% of everyone (corporations, sovereign wealth funds, investors, regular working people)save long term in gold, you don't need interest on cash because the ongoing productivity of the world will be reflected in a slowly constantly rising gold price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crippen View Post
    Come to the conclusion that nobody has a clue what is going on. All the posters,as well as the rest of the financial institutions have a different answer to the same questions.
    Some people have a clue, their investment record proves it. Youtube Peter Schiff was right or Damon Vickers was right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by socal
    The future is, more and more people will put long term savings in gold rather then in cash deposits in banks that governments and wall street can exploit. That is where the world is going.

    ....perhaps you are right...but bank lending ratios would seem to indicate otherwise...$1 of deposit was traditionally lent out as $12 of credit by these instutions....'08/'09 retrenchment saw banks at 50:1 ratios....hence the crash...

    when gold also retrenched....
    a future indicator...perhaps so....i am inclined to think so.

    the revelance of the above ratios....is fewer and fewer people actually have nett worth....that is....capital/savings....

    That is why it is not a good idea to stay out of the gold market, at these prices. If 40 or 50% of everyone (corporations, sovereign wealth funds, investors, regular working people)save long term in gold,....

    there is an appreciation that you have a winning position on Gold....and that is good....we must have winners....otherwise who else could the rest of us rob...

    your "Pied Pipers", "Carrion Call", "Mermaids Lement" is bordering on a dis-service to those who lack your penetrating insight and conviction....

    i too once could list on my CV this same conviction....i am a little older now and hopefully a little wiser....
    the market....the concensus...has a wicked way of dispencing with delusions...

    you don't need interest on cash because the ongoing productivity of the world will be reflected in a slowly constantly rising gold price.
    it doesn't present in your analysis that the "world of money" will deal with this current problem in the traditional way it has for generations....

    inflation...currency develuation.....austarity.....and if all fails..

    ....war!!...



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    Quote Originally Posted by socal
    If 40 or 50% of everyone (corporations, sovereign wealth funds, investors, regular working people)save long term in gold, you don't need interest on cash because the ongoing productivity of the world will be reflected in a slowly constantly rising gold price.
    jesus christ

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    Quote Originally Posted by socal View Post
    If 40 or 50% of everyone (corporations, sovereign wealth funds, investors, regular working people)save long term in gold, you don't need interest on cash because the ongoing productivity of the world will be reflected in a slowly constantly rising gold price.
    Socal - do you honestly think there is enough gold in existence for 50% of everyone to invest heavily in gold?

    Already there is more than 100x actual gold in existence being traded....

    I hope this is not the basis of your calculation for going long on gold...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blake7 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by socal View Post
    If 40 or 50% of everyone (corporations, sovereign wealth funds, investors, regular working people)save long term in gold, you don't need interest on cash because the ongoing productivity of the world will be reflected in a slowly constantly rising gold price.
    Socal - do you honestly think there is enough gold in existence for 50% of everyone to invest heavily in gold?

    Already there is more than 100x actual gold in existence being traded....

    I hope this is not the basis of your calculation for going long on gold...
    This is too big of topic for forum talk. The ECB and the Euro are built for a post fractional gold bullion banking world. (post 100 to 1) There is always enough gold, the price simply has to go up.

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    Why does every financial topic on this forum turn into an argy-bargy about gold bullion within about one page.

    The relevant points have already been made and countered dozens of times. Repeating them adds so little.

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    ^ ask socal

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    Because butterfly still doesn't get it...

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    where is Neo ? why is he so quiet ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Ghost_Of_The_Moog
    Repeating them adds so little.
    Quote Originally Posted by Neo
    Because butterfly still doesn't get it...
    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly
    ^ ask socal
    It is an appropriate forum to discuss the economic "wisdom" of investing in all types of "assets".

    The above posters others and myself have differing views on its suitability as an "investment.

    You can always ignore this particular forum or bring other similar aspects to the fore, for "discussion".

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    Quote Originally Posted by hazz
    I have never really understood what the gold bugs see in gold
    "Gold Standard", "Inflation", "Monetary systems" all useful reading if you, as a gold holding gold bug, should read before you use Gold as a "savings" tool.

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