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    New NASA Data Blow Gaping Hole In Global Warming Alarmism

    NASA satellite data from the years 2000 through 2011 show the Earth's atmosphere is allowing far more heat to be released into space than alarmist computer models have predicted, reports a new study in the peer-reviewed science journal Remote Sensing. The study indicates far less future global warming will occur than United Nations computer models have predicted, and supports prior studies indicating increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide trap far less heat than alarmists have claimed.

    Study co-author Dr. Roy Spencer, a principal research scientist at the University of Alabama in Huntsville and U.S. Science Team Leader for the Advanced Microwave Scanning Radiometer flying on NASA's Aqua satellite, reports that real-world data from NASA's Terra satellite contradict multiple assumptions fed into alarmist computer models.

    New NASA Data Blow Gaping Hole In Global Warming Alarmism - Yahoo! News
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    Global warming is the biggest environmentalist fraud in history.

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    ^ corporate fraud. Bought any carbon credits lately?

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    Forbes and the Heartland Institute? Blow me. If this turns out to be true, great. But the Heartland Institute and it's "free market solutions" should be chucked off a bridge in a sack with a rock in it. You're a sucker, JJ.

    Agree with mobs00, though- cap and trade is a scam.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mobs00 View Post
    ^ corporate fraud. Bought any carbon credits lately?
    Its mainly the environmental socialist lobby in the US headed by Al Gore

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    ^^Guess there's suckers and then there's suckers!

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    ^and lying cocksuckers like Al Gore

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    Quote Originally Posted by socal View Post
    Global warming is the biggest environmentalist fraud in history.
    true,and al gore the chief thief,back last year he bought a beach front villa 6 mill u.s ....fkin con-man....

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    However, if you are able to read, you will discern this piece of information, that for some strange reason all of you appear to have ignored.

    "The study indicates far less future global warming will occur than United Nations computer models have predicted, and supports prior studies indicating increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide trap far less heat than alarmists have claimed."

    You will notice that it doesn't say global warming is wrong or faked, or not occurring. It says it is likely to be far less than other models have predicted. Alarmist models no less.

    It is interesting watching how people process (or don't process) information.

    The author of the piece is ...

    James M. Taylor is senior fellow for environment policy at The Heartland Institute and managing editor of Environment & Climate News.

    And it is worth noting that he uses the word "alarmist" 14 times in this piece. Now if that's not an interesting attempt to inject a message subliminally, then I don't know what is....

    In fact, you might say his use of alarmist is alarming! Welcome to conditioning....it appears such simple tactics work, with the simple....

    It is also worth pointing out The Heartland Institute is a neo-con/tea-party media hub/front and Environment & Climate News is in fact just a part of the Heartland Institutes website, although it appears to be represented as something else, a separate entity. More interesting manipulation for those who appreciate how things work in the real world....
    "Slavery is the daughter of darkness; an ignorant people is the blind instrument of its own destruction; ambition and intrigue take advantage of the credulity and inexperience of men who have no political, economic or civil knowledge. They mistake pure illusion for reality, license for freedom, treason for patriotism, vengeance for justice."-Simón Bolívar

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    If you buy the "climate change is hoax" line and you aren't being actually paid by Exxon, you are a sucker.

    I'm not with the alarmists on either side. I see it as being about 75/25 that something is going on that might be mitigated by cutting greenhouse gases. I don't see the downside to cutting greenhouse gases. In fact, I see a lot of upside, some of it practical and demonstrable already. Japanese companies make a big fuss about their efforts to combat GG emissions. I suspect it is mostly bogus concern about the environmental side. Corporations are by nature sociopaths. The thing is, they save a lot of money in the long run by doing so, and are not blindsided by big fuel price hikes. Is there some negative side effect to efforts to cut the use of fossil fuels and conserve energy? I guess so if you are Exxon Mobil or BP. Nice company you scientifically-illiterate denierati keep.

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    If the hole is bigger, does that mean we're not going to suffocate in the trapped heat, but cook in the space death rays?

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    I find it strange but all of these evil global conspiracies of the worlds scientists only seem to exist in areas of science that threaten the interests of rich american corporates. These attacks on climate science, seem no different to the campaigns against those other great conspiracies linking asbestos and tobacco to cancer. And those conspiracies/controversies more or less died when the cooperate sponcers stopped spending their money.

    So are climate sceptics defending the world from a global conspiracy of scientists hell bent on getting their research grants or are they victims of a well financed lobbyists defending the business models of their clients who see fears of global warming as a threat to their future profits?

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    If the hole is bigger, does that mean we're not going to suffocate in the trapped heat, but cook in the space death rays?
    Death rays, definitely. Tinfoil hats do help.

    Is it possible to even find tin foil anymore?

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    global warming ... a natural ocurrence...granted people could do more to clean this planet up along with the big companies ..but this started out as a money maker for T.P.T.B. who cried out wolf, a big percentage of the scientist etc who first came out with these statements are now under investigation for taken moneys/bribes from companys/goverments.. its mostly about getting more tax from joe blogs ..very little is ever spoken about planes spraying the atmosphere with chemicals or the waste from big industrial plants,, you dont hear anything now about the gulf of mexico/bp/but its still going on.. the informatiom you get from M.S.M.is to dumb you down..im not saying its all bollocks, there is a problem but not on the scale they would have you believe...

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    Quote Originally Posted by StrontiumDog View Post
    And it is worth noting that he uses the word "alarmist" 14 times in this piece. Now if that's not an interesting attempt to inject a message subliminally, then I don't know what is....
    SD why don't you read the source paper rather then do a word count on the word 'alarmist'. Note that the original does not contain the word 'alarmist'.

    http://www.mdpi.com/2072-4292/3/8/1603/pdf


    If you have an issue with anything in the paper feel free to write a paper and submit it for review.

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    I don't understand why certain people have a problem with Global Warming activism, and need to attack or demonize their activists

    is that because they are afraid, very afraid ?

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    Consider the source ,………

    Professional Climate Change Denialist Issues Climate Change Denying Study, Wingnuts Rejoice

    Wingnuts everywhere are excitedly linking to this Forbes piece which FINALLY PROVES GLOBAL WARMING IS A HOAX!!!!!!

    NASA satellite data from the years 2000 through 2011 show the Earth’s atmosphere is allowing far more heat to be released into space than alarmist computer models have predicted, reports a new study in the peer-reviewed science journal Remote Sensing.

    The study indicates far less future global warming will occur than United Nations computer models have predicted, and supports prior studies indicating increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide trap far less heat than alarmists have claimed.

    And who authored the study? Someone at Caltech? MIT? Cambridge?

    Study co-author Dr. Roy Spencer, a principal research scientist at the University of Alabama in Huntsville and U.S. Science Team Leader for the Advanced Microwave Scanning Radiometer flying on NASA’s Aqua satellite, reports that real-world data from NASA’s Terra satellite contradict multiple assumptions fed into alarmist computer models.

    Oh, Roy Spencer.

    You know Roy Spencer, don’t you? He’s an unabashed creationist and a fellow at the Heartland Institute, which is funded by ExxonMobil to promote “free market ideas.” He’s “The Official Climatologist of the Rush Limbaugh Show” and he says he gets his views on science from the bible. And every few years, he issues another paper or book “debuking” the myth of global warming.

    Then, inevitably, three things happen: 1) there’s a huge celebration in Wingnuttia; 2) actual scientists examine said study; — and then, 3) they promptly smack down Spencer.

    Let me save you some trouble here, wingnuts. You’re going to need to do a little better than a Big Oil-funded flat-earther from the University of Tractor Fixin’ and Bible Learnin’ to override every major scientific society and academy on the planet.

    Just trying to save you a little trouble here.

    Link: Late Night: Professional Climate Change Denialist Issues Climate Change Denying Study, Wingnuts Rejoice | Firedoglake
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    Although the ice caps and glaciers do appear to be melting at an alarming rate !

    Having said that the planets climate has fluctuated periodically since long before humans were hunting and gathering along Beach Road and it will continue to do so long after we have expired.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SiLeakHunt View Post
    Although the ice caps and glaciers do appear to be melting at an alarming rate !

    Having said that the planets climate has fluctuated periodically since long before humans were hunting and gathering along Beach Road and it will continue to do so long after we have expired.


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    Quote Originally Posted by S Landreth View Post
    Study co-author Dr. Roy Spencer, a principal research scientist at the University of Alabama in Huntsville and U.S. Science Team Leader for the Advanced Microwave Scanning Radiometer flying on NASA’s Aqua satellite
    S Landreth..... thankyou for bringing the announcement into perspective.
    What on earth is a creationist doing in a job like that ? You mean there are creationists working in fairly high-ranking science jobs ???
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    Quote Originally Posted by S Landreth View Post
    Consider the source ,………

    Professional Climate Change Denialist Issues Climate Change Denying Study, Wingnuts Rejoice

    Wingnuts everywhere are excitedly linking to this Forbes piece which FINALLY PROVES GLOBAL WARMING IS A HOAX!!!!!!

    NASA satellite data from the years 2000 through 2011 show the Earth’s atmosphere is allowing far more heat to be released into space than alarmist computer models have predicted, reports a new study in the peer-reviewed science journal Remote Sensing.

    The study indicates far less future global warming will occur than United Nations computer models have predicted, and supports prior studies indicating increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide trap far less heat than alarmists have claimed.

    And who authored the study? Someone at Caltech? MIT? Cambridge?

    Study co-author Dr. Roy Spencer, a principal research scientist at the University of Alabama in Huntsville and U.S. Science Team Leader for the Advanced Microwave Scanning Radiometer flying on NASA’s Aqua satellite, reports that real-world data from NASA’s Terra satellite contradict multiple assumptions fed into alarmist computer models.

    Oh, Roy Spencer.

    You know Roy Spencer, don’t you? He’s an unabashed creationist and a fellow at the Heartland Institute, which is funded by ExxonMobil to promote “free market ideas.” He’s “The Official Climatologist of the Rush Limbaugh Show” and he says he gets his views on science from the bible. And every few years, he issues another paper or book “debuking” the myth of global warming.

    Then, inevitably, three things happen: 1) there’s a huge celebration in Wingnuttia; 2) actual scientists examine said study; — and then, 3) they promptly smack down Spencer.

    Let me save you some trouble here, wingnuts. You’re going to need to do a little better than a Big Oil-funded flat-earther from the University of Tractor Fixin’ and Bible Learnin’ to override every major scientific society and academy on the planet.

    Just trying to save you a little trouble here.

    Link: Late Night: Professional Climate Change Denialist Issues Climate Change Denying Study, Wingnuts Rejoice | Firedoglake
    I think this post blows a big ass hole in the articles ozone layer!!

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    Global warming is a scientific theory, not a fact.

    Over the history of science, there have been many theories.

    Many of these theories have subsequently been confirmed by experimentation and by the availability of measurable data.

    Many more theories have been discarded as new data became available was found to disprove them.

    There has obviously been a huge amount of money spent on 'climate research' and the increasing availability of verified facts are causing many of the pessimistic models to be discarded as they do not fit the facts.

    I believe that increasingly accurate studies will gradually reveal global warming to be nothing more than an anomally and one the Earth has experienced many times in the past (there is of course already verifiable records of this and studies of things like tree growth in trees hundreds of years old shows evidence of 'unusually' hot or cold decades)


    Remember, for most of human existence it was believed the world was flat and the center of the universe, until there was available evidence to prove otherwise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Latindancer View Post
    You mean there are creationists working in fairly high-ranking science jobs ???
    I don’t think it’s science and I doubt if anyone (sane) takes anything seriously that comes outa The Heartland Institute.

    Link: The Heartland Institute - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Quote Originally Posted by StrontiumDog
    However, if you are able to read, you will discern this piece of information, that for some strange reason all of you appear to have ignored.
    Can you post your analysis so that the simple.... can judge whose analysis is correct please.

    Quote Originally Posted by hazz
    So are climate sceptics defending the world from a global conspiracy of scientists hell bent on getting their research grants or are they victims of a well financed lobbyists defending the business models of their clients who see fears of global warming as a threat to their future profits?
    An analyser creates/sells a report based on government funded data and makes a $$ from is, great business model or not?

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    I hope the ice caps melt some more ,all that clean fresh water can give the world a good bath.
    As for the people who believe in anthropogenic global warming, but dislike been called alarmists, well serves you right for calling the opposing camp deniers at every opportunity ...

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