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    Britain going to hell in a handbasket, ep. 1,254,769

    Yet more examples of the utter stupidity of letting Europe decide what the British do, and how spineless the British government has become.

    Britain banned from deporting criminal immigrants


    Violent and dangerous immigrants can never be deported by Britain if they face ill-treatment at home, human rights judges have ruled.


    It means murderers, drug dealers or burglars cannot be sent home if they are at risk of ‘inhuman or degrading treatment’, seven appeal court judges ruled in Strasbourg.

    In a test case ahead of 214 similar actions pending against Britain, the judges decreed that the country’s duty to protect people against torture or inhuman treatment was ‘absolute’.

    The case involved two Somalian criminals facing enforced return to the war-ravaged capital Mogadishu after being convicted of serious offences in Britain.

    The European Court of Human Rights awarded Abdisamad Sufi and Abdiaziz Elmi, both currently in British immigration detention centres, £13,000 and £6,700 respectively for costs and expenses in bringing the case.

    Convicted heroin dealer and robber Elmi, 42, arrived in Britain in 1988 and was granted leave to stay indefinitely in 1993.

    Convicted burglar Sufi, 24, claimed asylum in 2003 on the grounds that he belonged to a minority clan persecuted by Somali militia.

    His account was rejected as not credible and asylum refused.

    But the judges concluded that the level of violence in Mogadishu ‘was of sufficient intensity to pose a real risk of treatment in breach of Article 3 of the Human Rights Convention’.



    Read more: http://www.metro.co.uk/news/867775-b...#ixzz1QeasrVes

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    Then lock the fuckers up indefinately, find a way for them to pay for their own confinement.
    Or deliver them to the doorstep of The European Court of Human Rights.

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    So based on the wisdom of the judges in Strasbourg; if the entire population of Mogadishu wades ashore at Brighton next week.......they are entitled to instant residency status because they pose such a danger to each other...? Gotta love that EU...

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    Internment has been used before so use again.

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    If they cannot be sent back to their birth nation then at least they should be sent back to the country they arrived from.........................usually France

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    The western world is suffering the same problems on this subject for the most part. It's time for things to change, but that will never happen until people go over the edge. That might mean violence in my opinion. Enough for me on this. It's depressing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hampsha View Post
    The western world is suffering the same problems on this subject for the most part. It's time for things to change, but that will never happen until people go over the edge. That might mean violence in my opinion. Enough for me on this. It's depressing.
    The problem is that the people making these stupid decisions are not the ones paying for them.

    I propose a levy. If they want to pay for a poor Somalian to stay in Britain, set up a standing order or fuck off and let us deport the c*nts.

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    Come on, who voted for the UK to join the EEC in 1975 ? I certainly didn't, and have never found a person who said they did.

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    But look what happens when the authorities try to deport them.

    An illegal immigrant who was being deported from the UK to Jamaica cut his own throat on the journey.

    Illegal immigrant cuts own throat on deportation flight from UK to Jamaica | Metro.co.uk

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    Quote Originally Posted by klong toey View Post
    But look what happens when the authorities try to deport them.

    An illegal immigrant who was being deported from the UK to Jamaica cut his own throat on the journey.

    Illegal immigrant cuts own throat on deportation flight from UK to Jamaica | Metro.co.uk
    Sew him up and send him on his way properly secured.

    BTW normally these guys travel with two immigration agents, so they need a kick up the arse for doing a shit job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by klong toey View Post
    But look what happens when the authorities try to deport them.

    An illegal immigrant who was being deported from the UK to Jamaica cut his own throat on the journey.

    Illegal immigrant cuts own throat on deportation flight from UK to Jamaica | Metro.co.uk
    Sew him up and send him on his way properly secured.

    BTW normally these guys travel with two immigration agents, so they need a kick up the arse for doing a shit job.
    I know makes you wonder what the feck the 2 immigration agents were up too.

    I would have stuck him in a dog cage in the cargo hold,if he bleed out then,tough luck.

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    PANIC OVER. Let em in, as many as they want. Soon you'll be able to kill em to death if they break into your house: BBC News - Right to self-defence in homes to be 'much clearer'

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    Quote Originally Posted by klong toey View Post
    But look what happens when the authorities try to deport them.

    An illegal immigrant who was being deported from the UK to Jamaica cut his own throat on the journey.

    Illegal immigrant cuts own throat on deportation flight from UK to Jamaica | Metro.co.uk
    What do you mean BUT look what happens......
    So what?
    How is it the UKs problem.
    These people need to realize that being permitted to live in England is a piviledge they should respect, not a right they should abuse.
    And they're nearly all black skinned people aren't they?
    I must admit to turning a bit racist these last few years, and I don't think I'm the only one.
    Name one black African country, or country inhabited and run by black Africans (Haiti, Jamaica) That has civilisation. ancient buildings sophisticated art and that isn't generally a fucking basket case.

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    Britain is locked by sea, so why not send all the criminals there?

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    I'd rather live in Jamaica than England.

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    Quote Originally Posted by patsycat View Post
    I'd rather live in Jamaica than England.
    Apparently it was quite pleasant before they abolished slavery.....but now.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by koman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by patsycat View Post
    I'd rather live in Jamaica than England.
    Apparently it was quite pleasant before they abolished slavery.....but now.....
    Now the monkeys are running the zoo.
    Socal was there a while back wasn't he?

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    its a joke australia is the same . u cant be sent back tp face the death penalty . as a result ...commit a murder ... get to australia ...u cannot be deported cheers ps i feel sorry for the uk u lot a well and truly fxxxxxxed

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    I suppose some Somali pirates might consider the British navy is persecuting them.

    Best allow them asylum in the UK and maybe they can get back to work in the English channel.

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    Oh bless the judges, can any of them actually make a sensible decision any more?

    Sack the fucking lot of them, you'd get more sense out of a random bloke from a pub.

    Criminals could walk free if they are not charged within 96 hours
    Tens of thousands of murderers, rapists and violent criminals could escape prosecution following a "bizarre" legal ruling.

    The ruling, made by a district judge at Salford Magistrates' Court and backed by the High Court, means an end to the practice of releasing people on bail and calling them back for further questioning later - a common practice in most major inquiries.

    Police forces can no longer put anyone out on bail for more than 96 hours without either being in a position to charge or release them.

    After the four days is up, officers can no longer question suspects and can only rearrest them if they have new evidence, the ruling says.

    Police chiefs have been left baffled by the "bizarre" ruling and both the Association of Chief Police Officers (Acpo) and the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) are currently considering the ramifications for forces across England and Wales.

    Home Secretary Theresa May said: "I think this is a matter of great concern.

    "We're working with Acpo at the moment and looking at a number of possibilities as to how we can advise the police on this issue.

    "There may be an opportunity to appeal this decision

    "We are also looking at whether or not it's necessary to introduce legislation in order to deal with this issue.

    "We are conscious of the concerns this judgment has brought in terms of operational policing."

    Sir Norman Bettison, chief constable of West Yorkshire Police, said: "This means unless this is overturned police can no longer put anyone out on bail for more than 96 hours without either being in a position to charge or release.

    "It's on the verge of a disaster now because the question being asked by my custody sergeants is, 'What do we do, boss?'

    "I cannot countenance turning people away from the charge office and telling them all bets are off and they are free to go."

    He went on: "We are running round like headless chickens this morning wondering what this means to the nature of justice.

    "My holding position with my officers is that I can't believe this is what was envisioned.

    "We are awaiting advice from the CPS.

    "The early indications are that until this matter is appealed or new legislation is passed the issue of putting people on bail for further questioning when they answer their bail is pretty much a dead duck.

    "We are waiting, as the rest of the world is, for the best advice from the best legal minds.

    "It's a mess."

    Sir Norman added he was telling his officers to continue working as they have always worked, ensuring no suspect spends more than a maximum of 96 hours actually in custody, until further guidance was issued.

    About 4,260 suspects are currently on bail from his force alone - which represents about 5% of the police service - meaning about 85,200 people are on bail at any one time, he said.

    The district judge at Salford Magistrates' Court ruled that the detention clock continues to run while the suspect is on bail from the police station.

    Paul Hookway, a murder suspect, was first arrested at 12.40pm on November 7 last year.

    A superintendent granted permission for him to be detained for up to 36 hours for questioning, but he was released on bail after about 28 hours.

    Five months later, on April 5, police applied to the courts to extend the period of detention from 36 hours to the maximum allowed of 96 hours.

    But the district judge refused the application, saying that the 96 hours had expired months ago.

    Greater Manchester Police applied to the High Court for a judicial review of the case, but Mr Justice McCombe upheld the district judge's decision on May 19 and refused leave to appeal.

    The force is now seeking leave to appeal to the Supreme Court.

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    Quote Originally Posted by patsycat
    I'd rather live in Jamaica than England.
    The Jamaicans wouldn't.


    Bring back the British! Most Jamaicans say they would be better off ruled from London

    Most Jamaicans believe they would be better off if they were still ruled by Britain, a poll shows, in a harsh indictment of nearly 50 years of independence.


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    When I was in Hong Kong about 6 years ago a kitchen sink (chink) said the same to me then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesus Jones View Post
    Britain is locked by sea, so why not send all the criminals there?

    Europe said it's against their Human Rights because the Sea is too wet.

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    America is on the fast track, Despite its $26 billion budget deficit, the state spends $21.5 billion dollars annually subsidizing illegal alien health care, education, welfare, other state benefits and criminal justice. Every California native-born household chips in $2438 each year to help.

    U.S. Representative Luis Gutierrez He’s on record saying, “I have only one loyalty, and that’s to the immigrant community.


    Read more: An Illegal Alien's Guide to the Top Five Best Places to Live In America - FoxNews.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by koman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by patsycat View Post
    I'd rather live in Jamaica than England.
    Apparently it was quite pleasant before they abolished slavery.....but now.....

    I agree. Jamaica would be a very nice place if there were no thugs with massive nostrils running around wanting to kill and rob you.

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