Thread: Aborigines: "A national tragedy"

Looks like the Abos just get pissed up every day for free, courtesy of the Aussie taxpayer.
This is a problem in most welfare states and is almost impossible to fix. If lazy people can get free money for doing feck all, then feck all they will do.

as you can see from bobo's pictures the abos have really caught on to the new planking craze. they plank in all the parks,bus stop's,foot paths,even saw half a dozen planking at the richmond /port game (afl)in darwin a few weeks ago.

In North Queensland, it's difficult to feel compassion for these lazy buggers. Anyone with any doubt should move up here for a while and wait for a whole tribe to move in next door to you, then see how "compassionate" you feel.

My parents worked two jobs each to afford to send my brother and I to a good school, however the abo's didn't have to pay the school fee's, and to top it off they received an "allowance" for every day their lazy black self decided to turn up.

Although, these days I would much prefer to see my tax money being used to fix / assist the abo problem in Australia then handed over to those dirty fvcking boat muzzies.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Sorry to piss on your strawberries, but the very first post in this thread shows that you have no fucking idea whatsoever.

Did you even read it, or are you just a die hard Abo hater?

Your second question first Harry.

I dont hate anybody as it fuks ones karma up. I just call it as I see it and base my comments on my lifes observation of whats going down in Australia regarding " The Brothers "

Yes we get fuk wits from overseas who know fuk all and react to the stats about the inequality in our prisons and the very high incarceration rates for Aboriginals verses whites.

I suppose this is what your banging on about as that is the subject in the first post and yes I did read it but that means nothing as they get placed in jail for there crimes and not because they are black, blue or even fuking crimson.

I work with quite a few ex cops who have came over to my profession to escape the constant bullshit that they receive dealing with a native population out of control and a system that supports it.

Absolute horror story dealing with them and I must inform y0u that if they carried on in asia the way they carry on here the would be extinct witin a generation.

I have no problem with the good ones but the recalcitrants need to be under 24 hour lockdown same as some of our white scum who run amok in the society.

Chill out Harry and stop wallowing in the do gooders properganda.

Actually a better education for you would be to go spend some time in " Alice Springs " We could possibly see a new born Harry with a completely different point of view.

The Chant of Jimmie Blacksmith

If you're the sort of person who enjoys being depressed, The Chant of Jimmie Blacksmith is the film for you. A short summary of the film is as follows. Young half aboriginal/half white boy is raised by a white Christian family. As he goes off to find a job, he discovers that every white person in the world is actually a racist. He tries to get over this fact by trying to lose his 'black soul', and become more like a white man. He is constantly cheated and laughed at by his white employers. Of course there is only one thing a decent person can possibly do when faced with this. He goes and chops up a couple of women and young girls with an axe. Sound fun so far? Well it gets better anyway, but I won't give away the whole plot in case you actually want to watch the movie. Of course one might say, but isn't the message important? Well, no. It is true that Aborigines were generally considered inferior at the time, and that there was some racism going on. But this film ruthlessly exaggerates it to prove a point, which appears to be that white society is a corrupter of black people. Leaving aside the negative storyline and the political point-scoring, however, the acting is fairly decent, and score is alright too. Apart from that, don't bother watching this.

Sounds fun

Saw that many moons ago wasn't a bad movie to me it proves most black fellas can't fit in a white mans society.

Aborigines account for one quarter of Australia's prisoners, despite representing just 2.5 percent of the population

We can take this as a given.

Aboriginals can do whatever they like and suffer few consequences but if a white person commits the same crime he will be well foked by the system.

We can take this as utter fucking nonsense.

Chill out Harry and stop wallowing in the do gooders properganda.

Oh, and we can take this as the idiotic ramblings of an illiterate racist.

Originally Posted by bobo746

Saw that many moons ago wasn't a bad movie to me it proves most black fellas can't fit in a white mans society.

Proves nothing more than you are a silly bigot

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

We can take this as utter fucking nonsense.

A mate of mine drives a cab last week picked up a black fella & two gins,$120 fare later they got out of the cab told him to fuck himself and off they go.Mate goes to the cop shop reports it even gives the cops the address.
Response from the cops you should know better than to pick up abo's.Nothing done.

Originally Posted by Sir Wilson

Proves nothing more than you are a silly bigot

A bit harsh i don't see myself as a bigot just don't understand why they whinge & moan and do nothing too help themselves.

My daughter's marrying a leb i have no problem with that,one of my neices is marrying an abo he's a top bloke got no problems there.

Bigot i'm not.

Originally Posted by bobo746

Response from the cops you should know better than to pick up abo's.Nothing done.

And white people ALWAYS pay their own taxi fares ?

SO who is causing the bigger problem ?

^ Fuk off willy what have you got to add? You know nothing and just want to run around calling people biggots. It's you that's the ignorant one.

really ?

So one fictional movie proves anything about a group of people ? black or white ?

Do you believe in comics also, do they prove that Spiderman exists ?

Originally Posted by bobo746

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

We can take this as utter fucking nonsense.

A mate of mine drives a cab last week picked up a black fella & two gins,$120 fare later they got out of the cab told him to fuck himself and off they go.Mate goes to the cop shop reports it even gives the cops the address.
Response from the cops you should know better than to pick up abo's.Nothing done.

And why's that? Because the prisons are already full of them?

Australian Prime Minister Kevin Rudd meets with Raymattja Marika after delivering an apology to the Aboriginal people for injustices committed over two centuries of white settlement at the Australian Parliament on February 13, 2008 in Canberra, Australia. Rudd's apology referred to the "past mistreatment" of all Aborigines, singling out the "Stolen Generations", the tens of thousands of Aboriginal children taken from their families by governments between 1910 and the early 1970s, in a bid to assimilate them into white society.

Just thought I'd stoke the Barby



It's time Aborigines got due recognition

Peter Gebhardt Sydney Morning Herald January 26, 2011

A change to the constitution would show our maturity.

Late last year Prime Minister Julia Gillard, Attorney-General Robert McClelland and Minister for Indigenous Affairs Jenny Macklin banded together to announce a referendum proposal concerning Aborigines and the Australian constitution. It was the most bland and passionless occasion.

It ought to have been a significant one because it involved the future of relationships between the originals and the usurpers. Does political power rob the power-bearers of blood in their veins?

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Newspaper commentary on this pointed to the long-term importance of the issues for this country, for the proper independence and maturity of the citizens and for the potential for a distinctive civilisation.

Australia Day, that artificial and trumped-up celebration, the excuse for manufactured emotion, should force us to look closely at our history and the truths of that history vis-a-vis the Aboriginal population and the brutal facts of that history.

Mostly, Australia Day is designed to suffocate truth and fact. We are not asked to think about those first steps by the governor and the imprint they left on the landscape and the inhabitants. That first step was the beginning of a history we have refused to acknowledge, to understand and to negotiate, all to our historical detriment. Succeeding hordes of imprinters do not know and do not want to know. The triumphalism of Australia Day is tainted by the tragedy of ignorance and imposed ignominy.

It has been apparent with respect to asylum seekers that courage in our political leaders is smothered by populist attitudes that bear no relation to the alleged Christian values that are supposed to prevail in this nation; it is no better with our attitudes to the Aborigines. We take what we want from them - sport, film, drama and art - but we do not expose ourselves to their value systems for we are too smug in our own and too hypocritical about theirs.

We will enliven our civilisation when we learn to appreciate the original owners and their diverse cultural achievements. It is not good enough to adopt the "Howard defence" - I didn't have anything to do with the past and, therefore, there is no need for me to come to terms with it. He couldn't accept guilt but, worse still, he couldn't express shame.

Howard was too much of a coward to embrace what was good and right for the country. He extinguished hope.

The resilience of the Aboriginal people has been a palpable marvel. We ought to respond to that by putting aside all ignorance and prejudice and inviting them to our collective table as equals.

I have been working alongside some Aboriginal tertiary students for the past few years.

It has been a wonderful listening experience. I have come to realise that we have so much we can learn and take into our own lives. They value their culture but want to be part of the broader community. We should all embrace the history and the culture and incorporate it into the fabric of our institutions and our lives. We got part of the way there in 1967. We should go all the way this time and push the political ninnies by our own persuasion.

If Australia Day is to have any legitimacy, it will only be so because Australians understand what that first footprint did to an ancient civilisation. Currently, Australia Day attempts to legitimise conquest. It is not a day of celebration for a revolution (France) or independence (US).

Of course, there have been great achievements in this country, great contributions to the world stage and significant developments politically. It has become a desirable place to live - obviously, the asylum seekers think so.

There are gaps; some sadly widening, such as that between rich and poor. There is extensive poverty and homelessness. Many lead desperate lives because they are not secure. Rights and freedom are enjoyed.

Who remain the most deprived in the community? The Aborigines. That is something of which we ought to be ashamed. While a referendum won't address the deprivation, it should allow the Aborigines to feel attached to what was once their territory. They remain aliens in their own land. We have made them thus and it is time to dress the deep wounds, and to repair the dysfunction we have erected. It would do us so much good and make us so much wiser and so much more mature.

We are not talking about the "black armband" views of history. We are, or should be, talking about the ''whitewash'' views of history. It is time to attend to our national colour-blindness. It is truly time for supremacy to give way to the equanimity of equality, to the sustenance of sharing.

There are two issues that will manifest our maturity: first, proper constitutional recognition of the first people; second, independence from the regal pantomime in England.

Peter Gebhardt is a Melbourne poet and former County Court judge.

Let it wither on the vine

Joseph Toscano Anarchist Age Weekly Review January 27th, 2011

Australia Day – Invasion Day, has despite the reservations of an increasing number of Australians become the day most Australians celebrate their identity. Despite the holding of Survival Day events by the more radical elements of the indigenous community on the day and the annual debate that occurs about the significance of the day among the more liberal elements of the mass media the great majority of Australians equate the day when a penal settlement was established at Port Jackson in New South Wales in 1788 and the colonisation process began which led to the violent dispossession of a people who had continuously inhabited this continent for over 40,000 years, as their national day.

While most of the world (including India, which celebrates its national day on the 26th January) celebrates their national day on the day they achieved their independence as a nation state, we as Australians celebrate a day when a series of events was unleashed which almost led to the extinction of a people as our national day. I'm sure the irony of this farcical situation would not have been lost on Australians if the Japanese Imperial Forces had successfully colonised Australia during World War Two and in 2011 we were celebrating our national day on the day that invasion began.

It is time Australians who oppose these inappropriate celebrations stopped supporting and holding events on the 26th January, even if these events are designed to provide alternatives for people on the day and choose other days to hold celebrations to celebrate what we as a people and a nation stand for.

Indigenous Freedom Fighters Day, 20th January, the day in 1842 the indigenous freedom fighters Tunnerminnerwait and Maulboyheenner were publicly executed in Melbourne, Mabo Day 3rd June the day in 1992 the High Court of Australia recognised that indigenous Australians had rights to land in law because of the prior occupation of this land, Wattle Day 1st September a day which recognises the emergence of an independent national identity in this country and Eureka Day, 3rd December, the day in 1854 when people of all nationalities, cultures and religions took a stand in Australia to defend the inalienable rights and liberties they believed they were born with are all more appropriate days to celebrate our identity as a people and a nation than the 26th January.

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I get a bit pissed at all this wailing and knashing of teeth at the though of what was done to the original inhabitants. While i agree that some atrocious things were done to Aborigines and the behaviour of white man towards them has generally been terrible, the fact is modern white Australia is bending over backwards to make ammends.
We all have a bit of a larf at the darwin awards don't we?
Well this is nature, the stronger, more intelligent species will prevail.
Sorry abo's, you didn't adapt the weapons and technology to dominate.
Look at the average abo', look at the way they lived?
If they hadn't been so isolated they would have have been wiped out by competing civilisations long before white man arrived, it was just a matter of time.
So let's stop feeling guilty, all this self flagellation is just pittiful.
This

By the way, looks like it belongs in a zoo, not at the dinner table.

the fact is modern white Australia is bending over backwards to make ammends

I don't think that's under dispute. The whole point of the OP was that it isn't working.

Judging by some fairly sensible comments from one Aussie politician in an Aussie news post I added, there is nothing wrong with spending some money on the problem, but at the moment it's just being thrown at it with no regard for the consequences.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

the fact is modern white Australia is bending over backwards to make ammends

I don't think that's under dispute. The whole point of the OP was that it isn't working.

Judging by some fairly sensible comments from one Aussie politician in an Aussie news post I added, there is nothing wrong with spending some money on the problem, but at the moment it's just being thrown at it with no regard for the consequences.

Yes, but in the end the real problem is the Abo's themselves.
You can't help people who won't help themselves.
I realize the deeper issue is cultural conflict, abos don't have an economic model, let alone one based on working for money to exchange for goods.
They're a subsistence culture who never developed farming or permanent settlements or institutions of learning.
They are a stone age people trying to survive in the space age.

Originally Posted by Koojo

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

the fact is modern white Australia is bending over backwards to make ammends

I don't think that's under dispute. The whole point of the OP was that it isn't working.

Judging by some fairly sensible comments from one Aussie politician in an Aussie news post I added, there is nothing wrong with spending some money on the problem, but at the moment it's just being thrown at it with no regard for the consequences.

Yes, but in the end the real problem is the Abo's themselves.
You can't help people who won't help themselves.
I realize the deeper issue is cultural conflict, abos don't have an economic model, let alone one based on working for money to exchange for goods.
They're a subsistence culture who never developed farming or permanent settlements or institutions of learning.
They are a stone age people trying to survive in the space age.

Yes, but in the end things could be done better. Like, as the lady said, fining the parents for not sending their kids to school. Perhaps if the adults risked losing their beer money, they'd be a little more responsible.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Yes, but in the end things could be done better

Like how? We're pretty thick us Aussies but have done our best and welcome suggestions. What other feasible courses of action are there that we haven't tried?

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Perhaps if the adults risked losing their beer money, they'd be a little more responsible.

Originally Posted by 9999

We can't stop throwing money at it either, we set the precedent, now we can never turn off the tap. Can you imagine the backlash if we did?

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Originally Posted by Koojo

They're a subsistence culture who never developed farming or permanent settlements

Myth.

http://www.austhrutime.com/agriculture.htm

http://s8int.com/sophis33.html

http://www.survivalinternational.org/tribes/aboriginals

Originally Posted by 9999

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Perhaps if the adults risked losing their beer money, they'd be a little more responsible.

Originally Posted by 9999

We can't stop throwing money at it either, we set the precedent, now we can never turn off the tap. Can you imagine the backlash if we did?

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Fuck the backlash if the request (send your kids to school like everyone else) is reasonable.

There's no point in throwing money at an education system if no-one is turning up.