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    Saudi beheads Indonesian woman

    Saudi beheads Indonesian woman




    An Indonesian woman was beheaded by the sword on Saturday after being convicted of murdering a Saudi woman, the interior ministry said.

    Campaigners in Jakarta last November campaign in support of an Indonesia domestic worker allegedly tortured by her Saudi employer. An Indonesian woman was beheaded by the sword in Saudi Arabia after being convicted of murdering a Saudi woman

    The woman named Roiaiti Beth Sabotti Sarona, according to a transliteration from Arabic, was found guilty of killing Saudi Khairiya bint Hamid Mijlid by striking her repeatedly on the head with a meat chopper and stabbing her in the neck, the ministry said in a statement carried by the official SPA news agency.

    The ministry did not elaborate on the motives of the crime, nor it did disclose the relation between the two women. But Indonesian officials say that around 70 percent of the 1.2 million Indonesians working in Saudi Arabia are domestic staff.

    The beheading in the western province of Mecca brings the number of executions in the ultra-conservative kingdom this year to 28, according to an AFP tally based on official and human rights group reports.

    London-based watchdog Amnesty International called on Saudi Arabia last week to stop applying the death penalty, saying there had been a significant rise in the number of executions carried out over the past six weeks.

    It said at least 27 people have been executed in Saudi Arabia in 2011, "the same as the total number of people executed in the whole of 2010. Fifteen people were executed in May alone."

    In 2009, the number of executions reached 67, compared to 102 in 2008.

    Rape, murder, apostasy, armed robbery and drug trafficking are all punishable by death under Saudi Arabia's strict interpretation of Islamic sharia law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog
    London-based watchdog Amnesty International called on Saudi Arabia last week to stop applying the death penalty
    28 executed for crimes they committed, is that really so bad?

    Lets look at America, from wiki.

    There were 37 executions in the United States in 2008, the lowest number since 1994
    hmmm, seems those yanks like to kill the buggers also.

    There were 46 executions in 2010, 44 by lethal injection, one by electric chair (in Virginia), and one by firing squad (in Utah).
    Wonder if Amnesty International ever bring the subject up about Yanks killing their convicts.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saudi Arabia
    It said at least 27 people have been executed in Saudi Arabia in 2011, "the same as the total number of people executed in the whole of 2010.
    Quote Originally Posted by America
    There were 46 executions in 2010, 44 by lethal injection, one by electric chair (in Virginia), and one by firing squad (in Utah).
    America can claim an outright win for putting to death convicts in 2010, Saudi a poor second place needing 19 more killings to get a draw.

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    I'm not sure if America permits its citizens to imprison foreign nationals and torture them to the point where they lose their minds like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Saudi Arabia
    It said at least 27 people have been executed in Saudi Arabia in 2011, "the same as the total number of people executed in the whole of 2010.
    Quote Originally Posted by America
    There were 46 executions in 2010, 44 by lethal injection, one by electric chair (in Virginia), and one by firing squad (in Utah).
    America can claim an outright win for putting to death convicts in 2010, Saudi a poor second place needing 19 more killings to get a draw.
    Yep and the USA has a population of 300 million. Saudi Arabia 25 million.
    By your standards to keep up with the Saudi's the stinking murdering inbred lowlife fukwit Seppos would have to get 500 executions a year just to stay on par with them friendly and ever so tolerant Saudi's.
    Just sayin'!

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    I don't think it works like that earl, otherwise nobody would be complaining about China killing a few criminals every now and again.

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    Yea it does work that way. Amnesty intertional rates executions on a per capita basis.
    In 2005 China executed 10,000. But they also figure the numbers out of China to be under reported.
    Iran though is the country who comes out the clear winner in the execution statistics shootoff! Singapore comes in second.

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    Whilst there is no possible analogy between the kind of capital punishment practiced in Saudi Arabia and that of the USA, there is no denying that it is extremely effective. Not a single one of the low-life bastards executed in the USA has committed another crime. The problem with the UK and Europe is that we want to put our murderers and pedophiles up in luxurious prison accomodations and let taxpayers foot the bill. the USA procedure seems more sensible to all but bleeding heart liberals.
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    When in Rome etc

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    Sorry,,,,,, when in Saudi etc

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    The saudis are dictatorial shitbags just like a few more closer to home.
    Beheaded for self defence? fcuckin barbaric basstards

    Capital punishment should only be for western tax avoiders and evaders.

    You can't argue with that

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    Quote Originally Posted by LooseBowels
    Capital punishment should only be for western tax avoiders and evaders. You can't argue with that
    A few of the local councillers round here would ,,,

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    When I first went to work in Abu Dhabi in 1977, I could go down to the suq,(market) and leave my pick-up with the keys in the ignition, my camera on the seat, etc, etc,. go shopping, and when I returned everything was , as I left it. Obviously, I did'nt push it, because temptation is a terrible thing, but the penalty for thieving was amputation of the right hand. It really worked. How about UK having a very severe punishment for thieving, Mugging, Drugging,etc,etc,. It would really cut down on crime. BUT. Europe would intervene, re:-human rights. Why am I writing this post? I am dreaming again. Thank god I am 75 years old, and won't have to worry about all this. But I fear for my grandkids. !!!!!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog View Post
    I don't think it works like that earl, otherwise nobody would be complaining about China killing a few criminals every now and again.
    Culprits executed in Saudi maybe don't get to donate vital organs?

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    Saudis Behead an Indonesian Maid
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    Wednesday, June 22, 2011


    Saudi women board a taxi in Riyadh.
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    Indonesia is experiencing shock and indignation over the beheading by sword Saturday of a domestic helper in Saudi Arabia, with the Foreign Ministry announcing it has recalled the country’s ambassador for consultations.

    Heru Lelono, a spokesman for Indonesian President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono said Monday that the government is also considering a moratorium on sending workers to the desert kingdom. He told reporters that the Saudis hadn’t informed the Indonesian government of the execution, “which shows ill will in regard to the relationship between the two countries.” Even more shocking, a video of the execution was carried on a Saudi Arabian website.

    Political observers say the Saudi beheading only adds fuel to an already beleaguered Yudhoyono, whose critics have become increasingly vocal in recent months as 2014 elections near. "This will be used to go after the president," said a veteran politician in Jakarta. "This is just one more case against him."

    The beheading follows recent tribulations over the sacking of the ruling Democratic Party's treasure amid allegations of corruption. Muhammad Nazaruddin fled a summons to appear before corruption investigators weeks ago and has so far refused to come home from Singapore to face questioning. His lawyer has said his client will blow the whistle on senior members of the president's party should he be compelled to testify.

    The execution of the maid, Ruyati binti Sapubi, who was said to have stabbed her employer to death with a kitchen knife on Jan. 12, 2010, has focused attention on the fact that the country has some 6 million workers overseas, 75 percent of them women, and with large numbers recorded of abuse and violence against them. The executed woman said she was frequently abused verbally and was kept in the country against her will, according to a report by the Indonesian consulate general in Jeddah. They provide a lucrative source of foreign exchange, with workers remitting US$7.1 billion in 2010.

    Despite the large amount of money they send home, their safety abroad is still uncertain due to lack of regulations and government protection. Migrant Care, an NGO that provided advocacy for troubled migrant workers, recorded in 2009 that 1,018 migrant workers died abroad. As of October this year, the number of workers dying abroad reached 908, with most cases taking place in Malaysia and Saudi Arabia.

    The report of the execution has set off a storm, with local newspapers totaling up hundreds of Indonesian migrant workers on death row across the world. Another 22 Indonesian workers face beheading by sword in Saudi Arabia, according to Justice and Human Rights Minister Patrialis Akhbar, with an additional 233 on death row in Malaysia. Patrialis told reporters the government had asked Saudi authorities not to proceed with the execution of those on death row, on the condition that the workers were pardoned by the victims’ families.

    An additional 233 Indonesians remain on death row in Malaysia as well. Another 316 Indonesian nationals face various kinds of legal action in Saudi Arabia, government spokesmen said.

    The most pressing case today is that a West Java woman named Darsem binti Dawud, who faces the sword on July 7 unless her family and others can raise US$545,000 in blood money. Darsem allegedly killed her employer because he had tried to rape her. The family of the murdered man has forgiven the domestic helper and has agreed to spare her if the money is paid.

    A House of Representatives commission Monday agreed to a request by Foreign Minister Marty Natalegawa to come up with the money from an overseas worker protection fund, asking that the Foreign Ministry coordinate with other government agencies to allocate the money.

    Critics blame the government for mistreatment of overseas workers, saying employment agencies are not held to strict standards in educating overseas workers, and that scores of illegal employment agencies prey off workers, sending them overseas with no training and inadequate understanding of their rights, with the result that when they come up against demanding or abusive employers, trouble ensues.Manpower Ministry guidelines are inadequate, the critics say, and regulations must be tightened for worker placement agencies so that they can be held accountable for legal problems.

    The illegal agencies, however, are popular because they are cheaper and faster – mainly because they provide fake visas rather than have the worker wait around for weeks while the government considers the workers’ applications.

    “The sending of workers abroad in the past two decades has clearly indicated that, although export of Indonesian labor contributed to the national economy, a number of problems have also emerged and need to be addressed seriously,” according to a report titled “Overview of Indonesian Overseas Workers. “It must be noted that no special funds have been allocated to help solve any problem concerning Indonesian workers abroad.”

    Common problems include age fraud, mismatch of job supply and demand, fake credentials, anomalous travel document arrangements like over-priced airline tickets and over-blown miscellaneous fees, the report indicates, adding that so far no clear-cut protection policies have been drawn up for the overseas workers, and if there is any, the Department of Foreign Affairs, at the front line in any problems concerning overseas workers, hasn’t been consulted.

    Anis Hidayah, the executive director of the NGO Migrant Care, told local media the high level of abuse against Saudi migrants is directly attributable to the lack of supervision and protection. Some 5,335 cases of violence towards migrant workers have been filed in the Saudi kingdom, most of them against women. There is also the specter of death, with 1,018 Indonesians dying overseas from various causes in 2009. The US State Department reported in 2010 that more than 100 Indonesian domestic helpers had been killed abroad in 2009.

    It is almost certain that the number of filed abuse cases is a fraction of the total number, since workers who have not been educated and trained concerning their rights rarely complain about their treatment.

    Saan Mustopha, the head of a Democratic Party faction, said the National Board for the Placement and Protection of Indonesian Overseas Workers should be held responsible for Ruyati’s beheading. Although the dead woman’s family, he said, had repeatedly asked for assistance, they were only told the case was being prosecuted and worked on.

    "The National Board for the Placement and Protection of Indonesian Overseas Workers should be evaluated due to this incident," Mustopha said Tuesday . "This is purely a blunder. Ruyati's report [issued by the consulate general in Jeddah] was not considered seriously."

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    Saudi Arabia apologises over beheading: Indonesia
    Wed Jun 22 2011

    Saudi Arabia: Saudi Arabia has apologised for failing to inform Indonesia about the beheading with a sword of a maid convicted of murdering her Saudi employer, Jakarta said Wednesday.

    The apology came during a meeting between Indonesian Foreign Minister Marty Natalegawa and Saudi Ambassador Abdurrahman bin Mohammed Al-Khayyat, a foreign ministry spokesman said.

    "The ambassador apologised and regretted the situation and said that such a thing wouldn't happen again in future," said spokesman Michael Tene.

    Natalegawa also handed the ambassador a letter of protest to his Saudi counterpart, Tene said.

    Indonesia earlier this week recalled its ambassador to Riyadh for consultations as lawmakers demanded a strong response to the execution.

    Indonesian migrant worker Ruyati binti Sapubi, 54, was executed on Saturday after she was convicted of murdering her Saudi employer, Khairiya bint Hamid Mijlid, with a meat cleaver.

    The maid carried out the killing after she was denied permission to leave the kingdom and return to her family in Indonesia, according to officials in Jakarta.

    Sapubi's case is the latest in a string of incidents involving Indonesian menial labourers in the Middle East.

    Lawmakers on Tuesday urged the government to stop sending migrant workers abroad without agreements guaranteeing their basic rights.

    Natalegawa and other key members of President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono's cabinet have faced calls to resign over the persistent abuse of Indonesian migrant workers abroad.

    Around 70 percent of the 1.2 million Indonesians working in Saudi Arabia are domestic helpers, according to officials.

    Human rights groups say workers from countries like Indonesia, India, Pakistan and Sri Lanka underpin the Gulf states' economies but face extreme forms of exploitation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog View Post
    I don't think it works like that earl, otherwise nobody would be complaining about China killing a few criminals every now and again.
    ---- Well then Dog, how does it work ?

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    Not this has anything to do with maids being beheaded, but it read one of the links on BBC 2 days ago that the government even stoned to death a 13 year old mentally disabled rape victim.

    This i think was a few years ago and i can't remember hearing about it. Whats worse is that after the rocks were being thrown, she was dug out, checked over by some female nurses to see if she was still alive, which sadly she was, before being buried again up to her neck to be stoned

    What fucking bastards!!!!

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    Hundreds of Indonesian migrant workers face death penalty in foreign countries
    July 02, 2011

    At least 200 Indonesian migrant workers working in foreign countries are facing death penalties for committing murder and drug trafficking cases, Indonesian President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono said here on Friday.

    "In total there are 200 Indonesian people working abroad who are expecting death penalties at the time being," the president said before discussing plans to set up a task force serving migrant workers lingered in legal cases in foreign countries.

    "Seventy percent of them were involved in drug trafficking cases and 20 percent committed in murder cases," the president added.

    According to the president, the task force had to deal with legal apparatus in countries where those workers are expecting death penalties, in terms of asking clemencies and sentence reduction for those workers. The president said those sentenced workers are now serving in Saudi Arabia, Singapore, Malaysia and China.

    The president said that he would not burden the task team with targets, saying that he would encourage and fully-support the task force in carrying its duties.

    "I understand that they would face a very tough job. I would say that it was like a 'mission impossible.' But with our determined efforts and by God's willing, it could be turned into mission possible," he said.

    Indonesia has submitted its official protest to Saudi Arabian government over the recent beheading of an Indonesian migrant worker who was accused of murdering her employer.

    Source: Xinhua

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