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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Wilson
    Is he on smack in there then ?
    Agghh come on ya mug, was kinda thinking he may well have been an addict if he weren't caught, guess he wasn't using inside but you'd probably know more about the Indo clink

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    Quote Originally Posted by genghis61 View Post
    Drug mule finds wedded bliss behind bars
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    CAPTIVE COUPLE: Bali nine heroin courier Martin Stephens and his bride Christine Winarni Puspayanti dance at their wedding inside Kerobokan Prison


    In a spare room at Kerobokan Prison appointed with flowers and new furniture, well away from the crowded cells, Bali nine drug mule Martin Stephens and his wife, Christine, last night spent their first evening together as a married couple.

    The rare conjugal privilege followed a small ceremony and raucous wedding reception yesterday at the penitentiary for the long-time sweethearts, who met shortly after Stephens was caught with more than three kilograms of heroin strapped to his body at Bali's airport.

    Dressed in traditional Javanese wedding attire, the couple were betrothed at the prison's chapel, with their parents present, as was Renae Lawrence, another member of the Bali nine smuggling syndicate.

    Other members of the Bali nine turned up for the reception, where the prison band played and the newlyweds led the dancing.

    According to those invited, marijuana smuggler Schapelle Corby was not there, nor were Andrew Chan and Myuran Sukumaran, the organisers of the Bali nine drug ring who face the firing squad.

    ''It was one of the most beautiful weddings I've been to,'' said Adnan Wirawan, Stephens's lawyer. ''The ceremony was sacred, everybody was happy. Today they are celebrating, not thinking about tomorrow ... just celebrating.

    ''Martin said to me, 'I am doing this for our love. That's it. Nothing else.' ''

    Leaving the prison yesterday afternoon, Stephens's mother, Michelle, summed up the day as ''excellent''.

    Stephens met Christine Winarni Puspayanti just months after his arrest in 2005. Christine, a convert to Christianity, went to the prison as part of a church group offering spiritual support to the convicts.

    Stephens was quickly smitten. Within 12 months, the duo were talking about marriage and children.

    Christine has a daughter, Laura, from a previous marriage. Legal appeals, financial constraints and logistics problems delayed the nuptials, but the two remained devoted throughout.

    A visitor to Kerobokan's meeting yard would invariably see the duo kissing, limbs entwined, oblivious to their lack of privacy.

    Stephens lost an appeal against his life sentence earlier this year. His last remaining options include going through an administrative process available to all convicts in Indonesia who have served five years or more of a life term. That could result in his term being reduced to 20 years. With remissions, Stephens could be free in about six years.

    Stephens could also launch a direct appeal for clemency to Indonesian President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono.

    - Sydney Morning Herald
    Looks like a lady boy.

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    Looks like a lady boy.
    So does the bride.

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    I havent spent the time to read the whole post but at the end of the day these people should and i am sure would have been aware of the punishment from these countries for their crimes and they took the chance and got done so "fuk them i say" And for those who commented on the two thai people in the shit for killing a dude here in Australia, here is a good example. As much as the Aus government are trying to bring them back here, fuk em, they did the crime, they do the time, regardless of where they are. So those two Thai dudes who killed a guy here, they should come back here and be trialed and the dudes stuck there should be triled where they committied the crime. Same Same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Looks like a lady boy.
    So does the bride.
    Ha ha

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    Indonesia: Bali's Kerobokan prison

    Life inside Kerobokan: the prison where Scott Rush will serve life
    Stephanie Gardiner
    May 11, 2011 - 2:07PM



    Some who have been inside Bali's Kerobokan prison describe it as hot, dangerous, dirty and crawling with vermin.
    Others say it is tough but still a "very human" place, where prisoners pay for and prepare their own food and regularly see their loved ones.
    Kerobokan is where Scott Rush will spend the rest of his days, after the 25-year-old convicted drug smuggler had his death penalty commuted to a life sentence.



    Reports about poor conditions inside the jail have long been refuted by prison authorities and Rush's Bali Nine co-accused Andrew Chan and Myuran Sukumaran have publicly said it is not that bad.
    But Rush, who was only 19 when he was arrested with more than a kilogram of heroin strapped to his body, has almost no information about the outside world and his memories of Australia could slowly fade, his Australian lawyer Robert Welfare said.
    "It becomes your world," he said.
    "Your world shrinks to that society because you've got no reference point.
    "Your memory of what Australia smells like, they'd fade.
    "He'll never swim in the ocean again.
    "He used to like swimming.
    "These are pretty basic things of freedom."
    Mr Welfare said he has seen Kerobokan prisoners carrying around their own makeshift toilets and doing their own plumbing, with cockroaches and other pests crawling around.
    He said prisoners have to pay to get food and bottled water, and have not much to do except walk the boundaries of the prison, go to church services or play tennis on the prison's court.
    "Your diet is dependent on your pockets really, and Scott hasn't got big pockets," he said.
    Mr Welfare said inmates are locked in their cells for up to 13 hours a day, and Rush was at one time sharing a small cell with 11 others.
    He has seen bruises on prisoners and heard reports of violence.
    "It's not where I'd want to spend the rest of my life."
    He said the state of Kerobokan reflects that there are greater financial priorities in Indonesia than the prison system.
    In a rare insight into the prison, Chan and Sukumaran were filmed inside Kerobokan for SBS's Dateline late last year and were seen working out on gym equipment, using art supplies, and were part of a "cook up" in fellow Bali Nine inmate Matthew Norman's cell.
    "It could be worse, it could be worse," Chan told the program.
    "I suppose I'm thankful that everyday I actually get to wake up."
    Both Chan and Sukumaran have been heading education courses for inmates as part of their rehabilitation and Chan has been studying theology after converting to Christianity.
    The prison's Governor Siswanto allowed the cameras inside in the wake of bad publicity.
    "I think that the Australian news coverage about the Kerobokan Prison has been very negative," the prison boss said.
    "It doesn't describe the current situation or conditions."
    In an online conversation with viewers after the program went to air, SBS journalist Mark Davis wrote: "It's still a prison. So it's tough."
    "But it is also very human.
    "Freedom to move, to cook, to see family."
    Davis said he mostly spent time in the tower where death row inmates are held, which is less crowded than the rest of the jail.
    "And the westerners in there have the resources to buy the comforts of beds etc," he said.

    Early last year the Indonesian government had to hose down reports that rich prisoners were able to live in luxury behind bars.
    The revelations came after a team established by President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono to probe judicial corruption did a surprise inspection of women's prisons in Jakarta.
    Businesswoman Artalyta Suryani, jailed for bribing prosecutors, was reportedly interrupted in the middle of a laser beauty treatment in her apartment-style cell, complete with air conditioning, flat-screen TV, a fridge and a kitchen, The Jakarta Globe reported.
    "We deeply regret that several prisoners might have received special treatment," presidential spokesman Julian Aldrin Pasha said at the time.
    "President Yudhoyono believes that all inmates should receive equal treatment. There shouldn't be any privileges or special dispensations for prisoners."
    AFP reported it is well-known that wealthy inmates are able to buy special treatment and even shorter sentences, while poor people are crammed into overcrowded cells and subjected to extortion and abuse.
    At the end of last year, The Jakarta Post reported the government's plans to build new jails across Indonesia in response to complaints about overcrowding.

    Rush and eight others were arrested at Denpasar airport on April 17, 2005, and jailed over a plot to smuggle 8.3 kilograms of heroin into Australia.
    Chan and Sukumaran have appealed against their death sentences.
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    Prison is prison i suppose you would have to make the best of it but your still stuck there 24/7 no thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wayne Kerr
    Agghh come on ya mug, was kinda thinking he may well have been an addict if he weren't caught, guess he wasn't using inside but you'd probably know more about the Indo clink
    Settle mate, I was just asking, thought you knew something I didnt.

    Quote Originally Posted by bobo746
    Prison is prison i suppose you would have to make the best of it but your still stuck there 24/7 no thanks
    Technically, not so.

    You can leave for a day or so for a bribe of $100

    Papers have reported former Taxman Gus Dayus(spelling?) even went on overseas trips to Macau, Singapore, Malaysia. He only got caught when a press photography saw him at the Australian Tennis Open in Bali wearing a wig and glasses.

    The paper reported yesterday, but I could find the online version, that an Indo drug dealer guy has left his jail cell approx 90 times in the passed month to enable him to keep running his business.

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    Their prison conditions look relatively comfortable. Much more so than a Thai prison or some western prisons.

    They actually all looked very relaxed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hazz View Post
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    But we, as in society, are responsible for the deaths as a result of the environment we create as we try to suppress heron availability.
    Nonsense.
    Most heroin deaths are caused by taking non medical grade heroin in a non sterile environment.

    They take heroin under these circumstances because when there is no legal way to get medical grade heroin.

    Politicians have put in place laws that have created this environment and the voters support them, aka society.

    The drug dealers supply a dangerous product that kills some people and maims many more, society makes sure that addicts can only get their drugs from drug dealers. That makes us all responsible for these preventable deaths.


    Have a read of this Why Doctors Are Giving Heroin to Heroin Addicts
    Drug crusaders are impervious to reason, you might as well not bother trying. Drugs are bad, m'kay?
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    ok if you have money, like this woman
    Quote Originally Posted by genghis61
    Businesswoman Artalyta Suryani, jailed for bribing prosecutors, was reportedly interrupted in the middle of a laser beauty treatment in her apartment-style cell, complete with air conditioning, flat-screen TV, a fridge and a kitchen, The Jakarta Globe reported.
    found a news item on her, hilarious, says she had a chauffeur - so where was the car? and where could she go on her outings?

    Members of the task force could not find Artalyta in her cell when they visited because she was having a facial in a special 64 sqm room which was connected to her cell.

    The air-conditioned room was furnished with a spring mattress, a flat-screen TV set, a work desk and a sofa. She even had a maid and a chauffeur.


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    He has seen bruises on prisoners and heard reports of violence.
    sounds like anywhere.

    "It's not where I'd want to spend the rest of my life."
    errrmm, ...that's pretty obvious too.

    it's hard to find sympathy for these losers, but i suppose the fact that this guy was only 19 when he did something so stupid, you can't help but think that he should have some kind of second chance.

    the problem for all of these drug smugglers in indonesian prisons, it that their pleas for having their sentences shortened is way too politically sensitive for either side willing to make any serious consessions.

    doesn't sound as bad as thai prisons though. i wonder if corby has a flat screen tv..

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    Quote Originally Posted by hopskimoet View Post

    They actually all looked very relaxed.
    Herion does that!

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    Looks like Rush is going to get the sentence reduced to life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    If you want sympathy, it's between Shit and Syphilis in the dictionary.
    Excellent quote "arry" I'd missed it sorry!

    Quote Originally Posted by genghis61
    the 25-year-old convicted drug smuggler had his death penalty commuted to a life sentence.
    He'll be out and about in no time, well maybe "not no time" but there'll be some pardon granted in the future for sure.

    Quote Originally Posted by genghis61
    "Your memory of what Australia smells like, they'd fade.
    That's a bonus!

    Quote Originally Posted by genghis61
    "He'll never swim in the ocean again.
    Sharks?

    Quote Originally Posted by genghis61
    "He used to like swimming.
    Tough shit!

    Quote Originally Posted by Wally Dorian Raffles
    this guy was only 19 when he did something so stupid, you can't help but think that he should have some kind of second chance.
    Wally you're going soft and "soft wally's) aren't good! This guy took a chance and intended to get rich quickly, yes he made a mistake but despite all the "addled drug busers on TD" how much damage do you think the 1Kg of Heroin he was carrying would have done to the users?

    As "arry" said "If you want sympathy, it's between Shit and Syphilis in the dictionary".

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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by genghis61
    "Your memory of what Australia smells like, they'd fade.

    That's a bonus!
    I take it you've never been to Australia then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koojo
    I take it you've never been to Australia then.
    It was meant as a joke "koojo" you know tongue in cheek, taking the piss, having a laugh etc. ? etc. ? etc. ?

    Saying that no I haven't been to Australia, I'd like to go but the "creepy crawlies" put me off and "koojo" you can take that anyway you like !

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    I still have nightmares: Rush breaks silence on escaping death penalty
    Tom Allard
    May 20, 2011



    IT WAS, Scott Rush says, his ''dreadful burden'', a vision that came at night as he drifted off to sleep in the Tower, the notorious maximum security facility at Bali's Kerobokan prison.

    There he was, tied to a post in a forest, a dozen policemen in front of him, their rifles pointed, trigger fingers ready to let loose a volley of bullets. In his first comments since news last week that his death sentence had been repealed, the young Australian heroin trafficker says: ''I still have the nightmares''.
    But he has found new purpose, too, and he can now glimpse a life outside of the high walls of Kerobokan.

    ''I was in my cell when I received the news,'' he said, in handwritten remarks sent to the Herald. ''I sat there in silence for a while. I don't know how long but it was quite surreal …
    ''So many emotions welled up in me. It is a hard feeling to describe, a mixture of guilt, a sense of release and the realisation that I have a second chance.''
    The reality, Rush said, is ''still sinking in'' but ''my early determination to reform myself has been strengthened''.
    ''One dreadful burden has been lifted; a new responsibility has begun.''
    While his death sentence was commuted to life in prison, 25-year-old Rush and his legal team believe there is still the possibility of freedom.
    Like other prisoners in Indonesia serving life terms, Rush can make an application to the Ministry of Justice and Human Rights to have the sentence changed to 20 years.
    Such applications are often successful and four other Australian members of Rush's drug-smuggling syndicate serving life terms have already sent applications for consideration.
    There is also the less likely option of a direct appeal to clemency to the Indonesian President, Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono.
    If he ever gets out, Rush wants to be an ''ambassador against drugs''.
    ''I have met so many people inside Kerobokan prison whose lives have been destroyed by drugs, and [seen] the pain it has caused their families and young ones. So I would like to give back to my community and help others say NO to drugs,'' he wrote.
    In his six years in prison Rush has battled deep depression and behaved erratically, including a flirtation with Islam that included his circumcision in a clandestine ceremony organised by some Muslim prisoners.
    His guilt about the distress he caused his family has weighed heavily and Rush said he still could not forgive himself for joining eight other Australians to smuggle heroin from Bali to Australia.
    Even so, his lawyer, Colin McDonald, said yesterday that Rush had been transformed.
    ''He looks changed,'' he said. ''The gaunt eyes are no longer there … I've never seen him look healthier.
    ''It's been hard to keep hope alive but, in this instance, fortunately hope has triumphed.''
    Last edited by genghis61; 20-05-2011 at 07:01 AM.

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    He still has a long time to serve he might get a kings pardon one day but not in the near future.

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    given his age, if he does 20 years he will be 39 when released. still young enough to do something with his life..

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    Quote Originally Posted by genghis61
    including a flirtation with Islam that included his circumcision in a clandestine ceremony organised by some Muslim prisoners.
    ouch. Let's not be flirting with Islam then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by genghis61 View Post
    I still have nightmares: Rush breaks silence on escaping death penalty
    Tom Allard
    May 20, 2011



    IT WAS, Scott Rush says, his ''dreadful burden'', a vision that came at night as he drifted off to sleep in the Tower, the notorious maximum security facility at Bali's Kerobokan prison.

    There he was, tied to a post in a forest, a dozen policemen in front of him, their rifles pointed, trigger fingers ready to let loose a volley of bullets. In his first comments since news last week that his death sentence had been repealed, the young Australian heroin trafficker says: ''I still have the nightmares''.
    But he has found new purpose, too, and he can now glimpse a life outside of the high walls of Kerobokan.

    ''I was in my cell when I received the news,'' he said, in handwritten remarks sent to the Herald. ''I sat there in silence for a while. I don't know how long but it was quite surreal …
    ''So many emotions welled up in me. It is a hard feeling to describe, a mixture of guilt, a sense of release and the realisation that I have a second chance.''
    The reality, Rush said, is ''still sinking in'' but ''my early determination to reform myself has been strengthened''.
    ''One dreadful burden has been lifted; a new responsibility has begun.''
    While his death sentence was commuted to life in prison, 25-year-old Rush and his legal team believe there is still the possibility of freedom.
    Like other prisoners in Indonesia serving life terms, Rush can make an application to the Ministry of Justice and Human Rights to have the sentence changed to 20 years.
    Such applications are often successful and four other Australian members of Rush's drug-smuggling syndicate serving life terms have already sent applications for consideration.
    There is also the less likely option of a direct appeal to clemency to the Indonesian President, Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono.
    If he ever gets out, Rush wants to be an ''ambassador against drugs''.
    ''I have met so many people inside Kerobokan prison whose lives have been destroyed by drugs, and [seen] the pain it has caused their families and young ones. So I would like to give back to my community and help others say NO to drugs,'' he wrote.
    In his six years in prison Rush has battled deep depression and behaved erratically, including a flirtation with Islam that included his circumcision in a clandestine ceremony organised by some Muslim prisoners.
    His guilt about the distress he caused his family has weighed heavily and Rush said he still could not forgive himself for joining eight other Australians to smuggle heroin from Bali to Australia.
    Even so, his lawyer, Colin McDonald, said yesterday that Rush had been transformed.
    ''He looks changed,'' he said. ''The gaunt eyes are no longer there … I've never seen him look healthier.
    ''It's been hard to keep hope alive but, in this instance, fortunately hope has triumphed.''
    Wonder if he has night mares thinking about peoples lives he probably previously contributed towards fukking up and would have fukked up had he got through.
    Cockhead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brettandlek
    In his six years in prison Rush has battled deep depression and behaved erratically, including a flirtation with Islam that included his circumcision in a clandestine ceremony organised by some Muslim prisoners.
    Should have topped this idiot for sure instead they gave him an extended holiday.


    Quote Originally Posted by brettandlek
    Wonder if he has night mares thinking about peoples lives he probably previously contributed towards fukking up and would have fukked up had he got through.
    I'm sure that thought has never crossed mind for one split second, you selfish c*nts like him only think of one person...themselves!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bold Rodney View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by brettandlek
    In his six years in prison Rush has battled deep depression and behaved erratically, including a flirtation with Islam that included his circumcision in a clandestine ceremony organised by some Muslim prisoners.
    Should have topped this idiot for sure instead they gave him an extended holiday.


    Quote Originally Posted by brettandlek
    Wonder if he has night mares thinking about peoples lives he probably previously contributed towards fukking up and would have fukked up had he got through.
    I'm sure that thought has never crossed mind for one split second, you selfish c*nts like him only think of one person...themselves!
    Hang on a sec, "You selfish c*nts like him?" Who are you referring to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobo746 View Post
    He still has a long time to serve he might get a kings pardon one day but not in the near future.

    he might, but from which king?

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