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    ^ Not just refugee gates . . .


    Indons are the most horrible nation around, have been for ages . . . can't stand it

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    heroin is a death sentence for many who use it
    though i don't agree with the death penalty
    just lock em up in a dungeon
    where many addicts end up in their own self inflicted isolation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by billy the kid View Post
    heroin is a death sentence for many who use it
    though i don't agree with the death penalty
    just lock em up in a dungeon
    where many addicts end up in their own self inflicted isolation.
    alcohol and cigs are worse

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markus
    alcohol and cigs are worse
    Maybe you are correct in one sense but those drugs do not carry the negative stigma and connections with the underworld and crime as illicit and illegal drugs.

    I say legalize the shit and the governments will make squillions of dollars out of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loy Toy
    I say legalize the shit and the governments will make squillions of dollars out of it.
    But wouldn't that make it easy for kids to obtain it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton View Post
    And now the Aussie government has offered to pay the Indos the full cost of room and board for LIFE for these two convicted criminals if they spare them. WTF?
    Indos today told the Aussies to stick their money where the sun don't shine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton View Post
    And now the Aussie government has offered to pay the Indos the full cost of room and board for LIFE for these two convicted criminals if they spare them. WTF?
    Indos today told the Aussies to stick their money where the sun don't shine.
    The Australian govt is suffering from "cry baby political correct touchy-feely syndrome."

    What a joke - and - a waste of taxpayer money.

    Hope they execute and get rid of this idiots so we can end this bland soap opera.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Loy Toy
    I say legalize the shit and the governments will make squillions of dollars out of it.
    But wouldn't that make it easy for kids to obtain it?
    Give all drug users the option of withdrawal from their regimen and having therapy instead.

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    f*ck em, who needs that shit anyway. does nothing for the user except a craving for more. if they don't have the dosh then their moral code shows up when they rob their grandma's. they really don't give a feck about anyone barr their greedy, selfish self.

    [QUOTE="ENT"]Give all drug users the option of withdrawal from their regimen and having therapy instead.
    yes getting to the root cause of their addiction.
    jees for once i agree with you ENT.

    they certainly need professional help. taken out of the society to a secure place where scum don't come around waving lil plastic bags at them.
    keeping tabs on them afterwards for support.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Necron99 View Post
    And Chan and Leb Boy were just innocent tourists.
    Leb boy? I thought London born from Sri Lankan parents.
    Anyway both have accepted their guilt, neither have attempted the Corby defence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceman123 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Necron99 View Post
    And Chan and Leb Boy were just innocent tourists.
    Leb boy? I thought London born from Sri Lankan parents.
    Anyway both have accepted their guilt, neither have attempted the Corby defence.
    When did they admit their guilt ?
    Didn't they try to get out of it at the trial

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markus
    alcohol and cigs are worse
    I do both myself. maybe it would be different if it was decriminalised for heroin users.
    it works in some countries. but kids need to know what that shit can do to the person.
    just going back into the womb. comfort zone. zombie look.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Loy Toy
    I say legalize the shit and the governments will make squillions of dollars out of it.
    But wouldn't that make it easy for kids to obtain it?
    Not any easier then alcohol is to obtain.

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    If they're stupid enough, the kids'll start chuffing on glue, aerosols, thinners or petrol, nick Mama's valium, and so on.

    Again it's peer pressure involved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by billy the kid View Post
    heroin is a death sentence for many who use it
    though i don't agree with the death penalty
    just lock em up in a dungeon
    where many addicts end up in their own self inflicted isolation.
    alcohol and cigs are worse
    no they are not.

    I have been abusing them daily for more than 20 years and Iam still here doing ok.....

    If I swapped them for a heroin habit would I still be here..... I seriously doubt it.

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    All three, heroin tobacco and alcohol will kill you if you have enough of them, so will diesel fumes and air pollution or an overdose of salt or your favourite pesticide in your veges.

    The hysterical rote laments raised against heroin users/dealers make me wonder about the movies these catch-cry merchants watch. They seem pretty brainwashed into the cult of "Off'em", they seem to get off on snuff, pleasure in another's death, a weirder trip than being a junky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT
    or your favourite pesticide
    Damn, I don't have one . . .

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    Bali Nine: Indonesian court rejects Andrew Chan, Myuran Sukumaran's last-ditch appeal against execution



    An Indonesian court has rejected Bali Nine pair Andrew Chan and Myuran Sukumaran's appeals against president Joko Widodo's refusal to grant them clemency.

    Mr Widodo had controversially ruled out granting mercy to the two Australians, who are due to face the firing squad on the Nusakambangan prison island.

    Today three judges from Indonesia's state administrative court said clemency fell under the constitution but not under administrative law, and so was not in their jurisdiction.

    The court said it could only hear matters to do with regulations created by parliament or government.

    Chan and Sukumaran had argued that Mr Widodo did not give proper consideration to their pleas for clemency.

    The pair were convicted in 2005 of being the ringleaders in a plot to smuggle heroin out of Indonesia.

    During the case an expert witness was used to try to convince the court Mr Widodo's refusal to grant pardons could be challenged and the administrative court was the right jurisdiction.

    However, the president's legal team argued his clemency power could not be contested and the court did not have the authority.

    In their verdict, the judges dismissed expert witness testimony provided by Mr Widodo's lawyers because they did not appear in person.

    Lawyers for the pair said they were disappointed in the verdict and vowed to continue to pursue all legal options to save Chan and Sukumaran.

    One of the lawyers said they would attempt a constitutional challenge against the decision.

    The court's ruling against Chan and Sukumaran does not mean they will face a firing squad straight away.

    The two are awaiting execution on Nusakambangan island prison, but the Indonesian government is waiting for all of those listed for execution alongside them to exhaust all legal avenues of appeal.

    How long that could take is still unclear.


    Bali Nine: Indonesian court rejects Andrew Chan, Myuran Sukumaran's last-ditch appeal against execution - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
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    They should hurry up and put the silly lads out of their misery.

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    Bali Nine member Tan Duc Thanh Nguyen dies in hospital in East Java



    Photo:[/B] Tan Duc Thanh Nguyen was serving a life sentence in East Java. (AAP: Mick Tsikas) [/URL]

    Related Story: One year on: Bali Nine execution anniversary stirs tributes from Kerobokan

    The Indonesian Corrections office has confirmed a member of the Bali Nine has died in hospital in East Java.
    Vietnamese-Australian citizen Tan Duc Thanh Nguyen was serving a life sentence for his role in a plot to smuggle more than
    8 kilograms of heroin from Bali to Australia in 2005.
    Nguyen, 34, never courted the spotlight, since being arrested in Bali in 2005.

    He had been serving out his life sentence at Malang prison in East Java, but according to a spokesman for Indonesian Corrections
    died from cancer in a Jakarta hospital.
    He is the third member of the group of nine to have died. Andrew Chan and Myuran Sukamarin were executed by firing squad in 2015.

    The Australian Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade told the ABC it was, "providing consular assistance to the family of an Australian
    man who died of a terminal illness in Indonesia. For privacy reasons we will not provide further comment".
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    Served his life sentence.

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    Looks like Rene, the only one that didn't get a Life or a Death sentence will be up for parole next year.

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    Why are they not called The Aussie 9?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dillinger View Post
    Why are they not called The Aussie 9?
    They should now be called the Bali 6

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    Well made Australian ABC Foreign Correspondent Doco/Report from within the cells of Kerobokan Prison with 2 of the Bali 9 (one was 18 when arrested), and going through the crime etc.

    Last edited by Luigi; 07-06-2018 at 10:44 PM.

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